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25.01.2013. antoshkin (red, castle, Valeska, Moner) def Egor Koroeinikov (blue, Rampart, Ivor, Edric) 2sm4d(3).
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I took all restarts. Had to play whatever came, and IT CAME!
111 Slow roads. Moner is sitting in the tavern. There’s an experience stone under the castle. Klavius got Earth, but I decided to make Moner the main hero and didn’t regret it. Starting

troops are very good - Moner came with 8 gremlins ^_^
112 With scouting I reveal 2 Griffin Conservatories - one fatty, the other a single one, a couple of dwarf cottages and crypts, stables along the road. The respawn is very big. There’s an external dwelling for spearmen and archers.

But I only took the archers on 117.
113-114 I take the single Griffin Conservatory and break through to the secondary. I find 2 more Griffin Conservatories in the far corner.
115 I send a scout hero to capture the Inferno secondary, but treasure zone guards block the passage there (( The second secondary is also blocked by a stack of Eyes behind a Pandora’s Box. I’m left with one castle.
116-117 I build, collect resources.
121-122 I take the dwarf cottage with Klavius. I level Moner before taking the Griffin Conservatory.
123 I take the nearest Griffin Conservatory (three stacks) with an upgraded stack. In the first round one stack got moraled and blocked my archers, “Good thing it’s not max,” I thought

:) I get defeated and replenish GG’s mana.
124 I sent the army to take the upper Griffin Conservatories.
125 I take the single and three-stack Griffin Conservatories with the scout hero. By 126 I have 11 angels ^_^
126 I break the Eye behind the Pandora’s Box - there’s 11500 experience :D From the skills I get offered all sorts of junk - I take Air.
127 In the underground near the Inferno secondary I plan to hit the fairies for the grail (+6) and take the Dragon Utopia by 131. But the opponent breaks the GO from Bone Dragons and

stops in the middle of the clearing. In the FB he has 3 angels (another 1 with the scout hero oO), 13 rocs, and fifty elves; Moner reaches him and the stack of 11 angels decides the game. GG

As the map generator showed, both got chocolate, but I got more chocolate. Egor had 1 external dwelling of grand elves and 2 external dwellings of rocs under his castle, 3 Griffin Conservatories on his respawn, also
Breakdown.
111 29 grand elves (15 came with heroes - 5, 6, Ivor, and another 4 with the native, plus 7 from the external dwelling). Also revealed a Griffin Conservatory and a roc dwelling. That doesn’t get restarted.
Opponent took all restarts.
117 1-6 all dwellings captured in the castle. There are 2 leveled heroes.
121 I break the single one with just rocs; Ivor goes to the 2nd Griffin Conservatory. (I immediately bought all - 50 grand elves and 16 rocs by 121).
123 I break the 2-stack; the chain didn’t work out; the 2nd hero has Earth.
124 I split my forces with the 2nd hero and go to kill the opponent.
125 The 2nd hero stands on the nagabank at the GO; Ivor goes to take the last Griffin Conservatory.
126 I break GO and enter the opponent’s base.
127 Moner attacks me with 11 angels, 5 champions, and 48 marksmen.
Postmortem

First, the opponent had an Inferno treasure zone right next to the secondary (it takes just as long to reach the secondary as the +6 all helm, and a +5 all sword was visible along the way.)
Also right next to the main was a treasure zone containing a Dragon Utopia that gave the +4 +4 armor, +4 all shield, and +2 all boots - almost Haven without leaving home.
If I had collected all the angels on the map, I would have had 7. The opponent had 11 on his respawn and another 5 on his secondary, which I would have to reach through rough terrain. Total 16 angels.
The Dragon Utopia reveal showed that my good loot was a +3 necklace and wings; the rest gave neither stats nor control (2 Dragon Utopias, one max).
So if I had dragged out the game, by 135 Moner would be running around with 20 archers, a red orb, and stats of 35+.
If I had broken the GO one day earlier, I would have had a chance; but as it is, I don’t know how to play such layouts.
Plus all this, Moner on slow roads. :smile04: :smile04: (I saw Moner, but one Moner from the opponent isn’t enough to make me restart).
Thanks for the game.

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In short, I know how to win - I needed to break the GO without the oil, Ivor had that tactic, just on 124, but the losses would have been significant
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Yegor Korobeinikov
Breakdown.
In short, I know how to win, needed to break the GO without oil, Ivore had that tactic, just on 124, but the losses would have been significant

Yeah, that would have been GG, we started playing after a break and I didn't immediately get into the game — as a result the chain didn't work out and Moner spent a whole turn on 125 just gathering resources waiting for meat.
The treasure zone gave exactly what was needed. However, that same Teapot was guarded by 3 Fairyks and it's not certain I wouldn't have fought them before the Dragon Utopia. They could easily knock off a couple of angels. And a Dragon Utopia on snow — that's not much fun either.
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I'm withdrawing from the tournament because I don't stand a chance anymore. I don't want to waste my time or anyone else's. Thanks to Hell for organizing the tournament, and good luck to everyone. May the best player win =)
P.S. Unlocking units is key, just like locking down your opponents' units.
"Никто не уходит из героев вечно", - убедился на личном опыте, гоняю в сингле до сих пор :D
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24.01.2013 Lim4(blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Anry(red, Castle, Valeska, Thoris) 2sm4d3 141
Thanks to Anry for the game and the chat)
We restarted for 2 hours, spent all our 111, started over with whatever we'd get. For the first time out of all attempts, I got a good spawn up top. I see two Griffin Conservatories - there's meaning in life :) Shakti has two stacks, a mana artifact. I ran her a bit off course, but maybe it's for the best, since the scout stumbled upon a lookout tower and revealed three more Griffin Conservatories, two crypts, a Dragon Fly Hive, a stable, a money mill - I redirect Shakti there)) Also there's an external dragon dwelling, two arenas, a prison, and a GO from the cyclops dwelling. Secondary towns - Swamp and Stronghold, but somehow I'm not getting to them:)
On the first week, I built 1-4 in the castle. By the way, I couldn't decide what's better: build the castle or Minotaurs or Manticores in the citadel:confused: I only take Conservatories starting from 122, since they're all up to 250, meaning complete uncertainty). Good thing the first one was a two.
All of the second week I'm fighting in Conservatories. All the distracting troops are dead, only angels remain. I lost two of them at the start of my Conservatory path because of that. When offered skills, I turned my nose at Wisdom and Pathfinding, so in the end I got stuck with a choice between Diplomacy and Navigation.:smile04: What to take? No one to advise:( I remembered Diplomacy can't be used, so Shakti became a sailor. My mood hit rock bottom. A sailor! I wanted to find a Dragon Utopia and drown myself in it. :( I got ticked off and colored in the external troglodyte dwellings just to have some other troops. There were 5 troglodyte dwellings on respawn:smile04: Never got around to the external dragon dwelling, since it was guarded by Wyvern Monarchs. On 126 I have 10 angels, but for some reason there's no good mood.
Secondary town Swamp on 134. I see boots and another Conservatory. I go there, capture it, see a passage to Anry. Of course I went through the Swamp there by 141. Anry ran over to look at Shakti's army. I found the castle, attack. I fight not very well, but I have plenty of magic, including Mass Curse.

Our heroes. Only I actually have fewer troglodytes.


The battle
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Dear players! I would like to remind you that a tournament is a sporting event, and we have rules that must be followed. First, deadlines must be met. The time allotted for the group stage is coming to an end. Please hurry up and finish the games. There are 3 days left. Second, agreements must be respected. It is advisable to agree in advance, and if you have already agreed on a game, then show up at the agreed time. Everyone has real life, and plans can change, but in this case, try to warn your opponent so that he doesn't wait for you for hours; respect his time as well. Third, we play according to certain rules, and their observance is mandatory for everyone. If you are unsure how to act in a given game situation, first communicate with your opponent. If an agreement cannot be reached, postpone the game and contact the referee. The rules must not be violated; for any violation, even a minor one, the referee is obliged to award a technical defeat if the opponents do not independently come to another decision (sometimes players decide to draw or replay the match). Therefore, for beginners who are not yet very familiar with the rules, it is recommended to open the template scheme and the rules page during the game. Group D. In the game KOLONIZATOR vs BadSBars, the red player passed to the secondary location, bypassing the moved guard (elves), captured the castle, bought troops there, etc., i.e., violated the rule:
5.6.1. In order to pass from one zone to another through a certain passage, it is necessary to eliminate the guard of this passage.
The moved guard must also be defeated! Be careful! This is a serious violation. Therefore, the player BadSBars is awarded a technical defeat in this game:
23.01.2012 BadSBars (Red, Castle, Caitlyn) lose KOLONIZATOR (Blue, Inferno, Pyre) 2SM4d(3) 143.
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20.01.2013 Egor Korobeinikov(blue,dungeon,shakti,shakti) def st-klaus(red,fortress,crak,crak) 2sm4d(3) 213
used all restarts.
111 I fight off Boots of Speed +600 mana with 24 ghosts.
112 I break through to the mini-Citadel via a portal along a roadless path (2nd block 20-49 snakes -17 Troglodytes). There was a roadless path, I sent a hero to 1 orc (he didn't collect anything worthwhile). No respawn of dwellings on the main.
113 I break into the portal; behind the zombies there is a Tower.
114-117 I fight off gold 1-5 in the Citadel.
121 I fully buy out and break through to the 3rd secondary hero through Raskha's creatures. Shoha goes in 1 direction (which turned out to be towards the Castle.) Shakti runs into the treasure zone and clears it in the same turn and approaches another treasure zone.
122 I take the town (Necropolis), buy a spell book and enter its treasure zone.
I kill 93 Grand Elves losing 2 Harpies and 12 Gremlins!!
123 I am at the breaking point of 10-19 gr Beholders, behind the quest guards, and I see a Beehive behind the mages.
I consider whether to break towards the Griffin Conservatory at Rampart or go further.
124 I break 16 Beholders, I break 20-49 mages + Beehive, I break 94 gr Griffins, plus a Beehive; max Troglodytes focused and died. 124 Shakti 24 ducks.
125 I break into Rampart, but to buy creatures there a Tavern is needed, and to replenish mana a Mage Guild is needed, but the town was just captured (on the way I decide to kill 5-9 Chaos Hydras with Shoha, lose all the army except the ducks, break a Beehive - result: lost all the army except the ducks, final result +1 duck, for 17 Evil Eyes and 5 Minotaurs). I lose a turn.
127 The Griffin Conservatory turned out to be a Level 1.... I broke into the inner treasure zone.
131-135 I clear the treasure zone which I ran through on 121, +3 Angels + Beehive 134 (a Dragon Utopia falls almost without losses (drain)).
136 I go into the inner treasure zone, there are very many Beehives.
142 Ducks are already 70+; on auto-battle I take a Beehive, I attack the Dragon Utopia's guard, it doesn't flee and there are Gorgons 25+26 with a Gold Shield. I lose 3 Angels on auto-battle....
143-147 I finish clearing the treasure zone. I take a couple more Dragon Utopias; they gave me an Air spell book (here I made a mistake, they gave me КЗ, and I fought off the Speaker's Hat with Liches).
213 I go to the obelisk, give battle, win the Fb.
Thank you for the game.
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aka.Ward3n (red, flux, random, Grindan) lose Lucky George (blue, Fortress, Tazar) 1.2.6 2sm4d3
I surrendered due to lack of time to finish the game. I won't go into details, as I want to finish it just for fun.
Thank you for the game.
aka.Ward3n (no color, no Castle, no hero) lose Lim4 (no color, no castle, no hero) 0.0.0 Jebus Cross
The reason is the same. We agreed to play Jebus, but the game didn't happen.
Когда рестартов не осталось, обязательно ждите Гурниссона без балисты:D

Комплимент который сделал мой день:
Катя ЭПИК барышня) вы бы видели как пялились на её сиськи молодёж) я та с девушкой был) но всё равно пялился ) потому что хорошие) (с) Browser

Слабая раздача, которую заиграл исключительно из-за колпака на 111. (с) Сатир

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In addition to Pit's words, I'll add a more specific description of what's happening... Group A: They've completely given up... crucial matches: Yegor Korobeynikov - High, Yegor Korobeynikov - d-neez, and antoshkin's games... we're finishing the rest as best we can. Group B: While we can still speculate about the first finalist, who will come in second is a complete mystery. Many matches need to be played, but it seems everyone is waiting for a miracle... it could all end badly. Group C: They are the performance leaders, but even so, the qualifiers are not yet determined, mainly due to the "underperformance" of the player Lucky_George. I hope he will dedicate time as promised and play these matches. Overall, well done! Group D: The situation is the opposite of Group C in terms of performance, but due to the clearly defined leaders, they are managing the schedule... however, there is still a hypothetical chance that BadSBars will have time to play (and win) all the remaining matches and compete for a qualifying spot. I wish everyone good luck, and a special thank you to those who approached the tournament responsibly and completed all the requirements on time! [Added 2 minutes later]
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aka.Ward3n(red,flux,random,Grindan) lose Lucky George(blue,Fortress,Tazar) 1.2.6 2sm4d3 I surrendered due to lack of time to finish. I won't go into details, as I want to finish it as a casual game. Thank you for the game. aka.Ward3n (-) Lim4 (+) The reason is the same. We will play it, JESUS, not that damn small map.
Please format it properly, at least with the game headers.
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aka.Ward3n (red, flux, random, Grindan) lose to Lucky George (blue, Fortress, Tazar) 1.2.6 2sm4d3
I surrendered due to a lack of time to finish the game. I won't go into details, as I want to finish it as a casual game.
Thank you for the game.
aka.Ward3n (no color, no Castle, no hero) lose to Lim4 (no color, no castle, no hero) 0.0.0 Jebus Cross
The reason is the same. We agreed to play Jebus, but the game didn't happen.
Is this okay?
Когда рестартов не осталось, обязательно ждите Гурниссона без балисты:D

Комплимент который сделал мой день:
Катя ЭПИК барышня) вы бы видели как пялились на её сиськи молодёж) я та с девушкой был) но всё равно пялился ) потому что хорошие) (с) Browser

Слабая раздача, которую заиграл исключительно из-за колпака на 111. (с) Сатир

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No, if there wasn't a game, I'll just mark it as a loss... this is for the season reports + I need the date for the first game.
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No, if the game wasn't played, I'll just mark it as a loss... this is for the season reports + we need the date for the first game.
We'll finish these games for the season later, just mark them as technical losses.
Когда рестартов не осталось, обязательно ждите Гурниссона без балисты:D

Комплимент который сделал мой день:
Катя ЭПИК барышня) вы бы видели как пялились на её сиськи молодёж) я та с девушкой был) но всё равно пялился ) потому что хорошие) (с) Browser

Слабая раздача, которую заиграл исключительно из-за колпака на 111. (с) Сатир

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I'll add a more specific description to Pit's words about what's happening...

Group B:
While it's still possible to speculate about the first finalist, who will come in second is a complete mystery. Many matches need to be played, but it seems everyone is waiting for a miracle... it could all end badly...

1. Akmid has been offline for a long time.
2. He's on the save with SignorPomodoro, but he hasn't had internet access, and he's been busy with work all week. I told him I'm ready to finish the game over the weekend.
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Yegor Korobeynikov
20.01.2013 Yegor Korobeynikov (blue, dungeon, shakti, shakti) def st-klaus (red, citadel, crak, crak) 2sm4d(3) 213
I confirm. We played a long time ago, and not in one sitting. I don't remember much, except that the opponent, after breaking through the defenses, managed to reach the hero with a bag.
Thank you for the game.

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24.01.2013 d-neez (Blue, Swamp, Wistan, Wistan) def st_Klaus (Red, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 2sm4d(3) 134

The distribution was good, the roads were average, the archers were built, 25 of them on day 111. On day 113, 2 archer outposts were taken, on day 114, 2 reserves were spotted and cleared - both were level 1, the third was standing 2 days away, I decided not to rush. There was money, so I built a wisp and a bull in the citadel + on day 117, I took a wisp outpost. In the second week, I repelled the secondary attack, gained some experience, cleared everything, and was given land. In the third week, I decided not to rush along the road to the citadel-land, turned towards the underground secondary attack, and aimed for the 3rd consulate on the way to the metro, but I received a message about a loss. gg, thank you for the game. As it turned out, the entrance to the underground was in the opponent's captured double dungeon, and most likely, there would have been an encounter somewhere there.



Yes, yes. It happened. I was greedy and went into the Hive, so as not to return, which at that moment was not so necessary. The Hive is maxed out, I lost. Thank you for the game.
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I confirm. We played a long time ago and not in one sitting. I vaguely remember what was there, except that the opponent, after breaking through the Guard of Order, managed to reach the creature with the "Mosh Pit" ability.
Thanks for the game.
I didn't break through the Guard of Order; I flew over it...
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01/24/2013 Lim4 (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def Anry (red, Castle, Valeska, Turis) 2sm4d3 141

Confirmed!

In general, I got ambushed in the crypt on Necropolis territory in the 1st week because the vampires moved faster than the archers... As a result, I didn't have time to check the treasury for the +4 all resistance shield, etc. And I didn't expect such a large number of conservatories from my opponent and her approach through the swamp towards me...

Thanks for the game.

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