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Offline Нэйко
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#721
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Guys, we're being too slow. I think Zubr is easily taking down Amka. Just think about it, he bugged the game when Ortonn was revealed, effectively eliminating Luke. He's working well with Ment, who was Vader. Plus, he's been suspected for a while, but then people stopped paying attention to it. Even I was convinced for a long time that Leia was Kosha, but now I have three suspects, and honestly, I'm leaning towards Zubr being the mafia. Of course, there's one "but" to all of this. It would be stupid of Leia to do that, but then he probably realized his mistake and understood that he now needs to quickly eliminate some random player, pretending to execute Leia. But I'm still not sure about this, and I'd like to discuss this possibility with the others.

And by the way, executing Jabba now is stupid and pointless, in my opinion. He'll probably just be accumulating credits at night, because if Leia has any brains and doesn't want to lose, she'll interfere with Tarkin, and if we keep focusing on the mafia, the game could become endless.
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Offline Wolfstet
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Here's what Leia will give Tarkin right now. Who will he decide to eliminate tonight, a maniac or Leia, who is still unknown to everyone?
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Offline Zybr
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No, I still don't understand Zubr's tactics. You need to minimize the $ of the frog as much as possible, but you're trying to execute someone else. And don't forget that executing a peaceful player now equals the loss of a city. Is that what you're trying to achieve?
I've explained it twice already. The Mafia player has almost no chance of winning. He needs to somehow get rid of the maniac, but without ending up 1 against 2-3 townspeople. In short, the stars need to align perfectly. That's why I'm sure that at night, the Mafia player will shoot a peaceful player. + the maniac's shot, and that's -2 townspeople. If they hit Tarkin, the game will end just as quickly. So, what's the point of executing Jabba now?
In my opinion, Zubr is brilliantly eliminating Amka.
Oh, that sounds interesting, especially considering that I haven't even executed him yet and I'm not even insisting on him as a candidate, like Volfi, for example.
He was glitching when Ortonn was revealed, thereby exposing Luke.
And? Do you approve of such gameplay? Personally, I don't. You have to play fairly.
He worked well with Ment, who was Vader.
Did anyone else actively participate in the discussion? Volfi only became active now, and you started being active as soon as you were hanged the first time. The others don't write that much either.
Plus, he has been suspected for a long time, but then they stopped paying attention to it.
Suspicions don't guarantee that someone is Mafia.
Even I was firmly convinced all this time that Leia was Kosha, and now I have three suspects, and, to be honest, I'm more inclined to think that Zubr is Mafia.
Three? Who isn't a suspect?
But I'm still not sure about that, and I would like to discuss this possibility with the others.
The Mafia player would definitely benefit from eliminating a peaceful player now. But again, more as a way to hinder the town, rather than for their own success.
And by the way, it's stupid and pointless to execute Jabba now, IMHO; most likely, he will just be accumulating credits at night.
Why would he accumulate credits?
Because Leia, if she has a brain and doesn't want to lose, will interfere with Tarkin.
Again, what's the point of her interfering?


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
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Offline Zybr
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#724
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Leia is actually counting on Tarkin killing Jabba, but by that time, there will be too few Imperials left in the city. So, she should attack at night.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Wolfstet
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#725
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Amko. Required argumentation. Mold is ruled out. Let's assume that two mafia members couldn't be involved in the clues of the same newspaper. Regarding Neyra, it's also relatively clear. I'm a town member. Kosha... Even if we disregard the purely intuitive approach and look at the clues from the same perspective. Are you saying that the second suspect is being chosen by the GM? Then what's the point of him throwing clues on both the serial killer and the mafia member at the same time? Zubr. His behavior is peaceful and logical, which doesn't rule out the possibility that he's a mafia member. You remain a suspect. When did you become relatively active? When it became dangerous to remain silent. The same can be said about me, of course, but still. From the beginning of the game, I seemed cautious. This is very subjective, of course.
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Offline Zybr
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#726
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The worst thing is that the most peaceful player, i.e., Ple-Sen, writes the least, and when he does write, it's only to agree with something, not to express his own opinion. Ideally, he should be the one leading the city.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Нэйко
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#727
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So? Do you approve of such gameplay methods? Personally, I don't. You have to play fairly.
No, but closing the day, which you insisted on, doesn't look particularly peaceful either.
Three? And who isn't among the suspects?
Kosh, you, and Amko. I don't consider Wolfi a mafia member. Although, I still have some doubts about you; in some respects, I still see you as a town member, and in others, as a mafia member. Moreover, because of my uncertainty, I can't even choose who to vote for.
And why would he need to save up credits?
So that he doesn't end up without them when he's eliminated.

Again, what's the point of hindering her?

Leia is now, on the contrary, counting on Tarkin killing Jabba, but by that time, there will be too few town members left in the city. That is, she should shoot at night.
A bad calculation, in which the mafia gets rid of you immediately after the death of a town member. Although, it's a decent attempt.

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In general, I see the situation like this: we spend the day executing Jabba - he escapes, but at night he goes to save up credits, while Leia takes out Tarkin, because if he gets a chance to shoot, Leia and Jabba are screwed, and the town wins. Leia won't touch Jabba because without him, she will lose all her chances and lose. Jabba will most likely not kill her either, because without her, he will become a target for Tarkin, and he clearly doesn't want that. So, let's see what happens.
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Offline Zybr
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A terrible calculation, where immediately after death, mana gets rid of you. Although, it's a decent attempt.
Well, that's what I'm saying – Leia has almost no chance.
No, but ending the day, which you insisted on, doesn't look particularly peaceful either.
Well, that's not a gameplay moment. So, I suggest leaving it as is for now.
So that when he loses, he doesn't end up without them.
I think he smuggled at least one shipment, which means he has enough money for three attempts.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Zybr
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Plus, he might do it just to be annoying.
Well, being annoying is a thing, I guess... I'm not suggesting we hang him, though.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Zybr
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Others offer alternatives.
This is exactly what you should pay attention to, especially if they don't provide a detailed explanation of the reason.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Wolfstet
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#733
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Probably just to be annoying. Why leave mana credits untouched? Let her suffer a bit. Although it's pointless; not only will the mana remain, but Leia will continue her activities.
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Offline Zybr
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#734
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In general, at the moment, we should probably execute Amko.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Amko
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I recommend that those of you who are still considering attacking the town reconsider your decision. I won't argue any further; I've already written enough.

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Keep in mind that if you destroy the town, you will automatically lose the game.
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