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I'm no physicist, but I'd venture to suggest that for an elephant to actually fly off the ground (overcome Earth's gravity), its initial velocity at the moment of launch would have to be significantly greater than the first cosmic velocity, since an elephant doesn't have rocket engines to maintain a constant speed during flight. It would very quickly lose its initial acceleration, just like a bullet fired into the sky will slow down to 0 and fall back to Earth after a few seconds (gravity is a powerful force; it doesn't want to let anyone go easily). Therefore, we can conclude that the elephant would need to be given an initial velocity that even specially equipped rockets would struggle to withstand; in other words, the elephant would simply be torn apart, not just its trunk, especially considering that the acceleration was achieved by spinning it by the trunk (not the most successful choice). Although, perhaps in the past, elephants were much different than they are now – more resilient and aerodynamic – and the force of gravity, without Zionist interference, was an order of magnitude less.
I was told that the acceleration at the moment the elephant detaches from Bhima should be 40 times greater than the first cosmic velocity (why forty?). If so, then Newton's second law: F = m x a.
7900 m/s x 40 x 5000 kg = 1,580,000,000 Newtons (kg x m/s).
7900 m/s x 40 x 5000 kg = 1,580,000,000 Newtons (kg x m/s).
That's something unimaginable.
"The main problem, in my opinion, is the rigidity of our thinking (especially mine); for us, our ideas, even if they are wrong, are more valuable than anything else." (c) guru
Think (imagine) more!;)
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)
Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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If you were to launch an elephant into geostationary orbit, it could stay there for quite a while.
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What you write shows that you don't understand what Orthodoxy is (to glorify the truth, but what is truth, Nav, and Yav?) or what true Christianity is.
If you were to launch an elephant into geostationary orbit, it could stay there for quite a long time.
Most likely, it would stay there indefinitely, as it has already been proven that elephant skin is a key component of the outer shell of reusable spacecraft. Considering that an elephant in geostationary orbit requires virtually no acceleration, it could remain there forever (cosmonauts' testimonies about their presence in space and the elephant launches themselves are separated by thousands of years). All that remains is to figure out how Bhima managed to give the elephant an acceleration 40 times greater than the first cosmic velocity, namely 316 km/s, so that the elephant could overcome 35,786 km vertically (the shortest path). This is the distance from the equator where the geostationary orbit is located. What are your thoughts on this?:)
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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How can Leo's acceleration exceed the speed? Acceleration isn't measured in km/s, you know.
How can Leo, as acceleration, exceed the speed? Acceleration is not measured in km/s.
The unit of acceleration in the International System of Units (SI) is meters per second squared (m/s2). If I made a mistake, it was only in the notation. For example, near the Earth, a body falling to Earth, when air resistance can be neglected, increases its speed by approximately 9.8 m/s each second, that is, its acceleration is approximately 9.8 m/s². And I converted it to km/s to have fewer zeros. But the main point here is about elephants, the main subject of discussion is elephants-astronauts launched into orbit against their will.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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The point of my post is that you are comparing two different quantities with different physical meanings (acceleration and velocity), which are measured in different units (km/s^2 and km/s in your units). Therefore, acceleration cannot be greater or less than velocity. These are fundamentally incomparable concepts. You cannot say that acceleration is greater or less than velocity.
Regarding the elephants, I read about it – the problem is that schools are not teaching the basics of physics very well these days. I mean not the formulas, but the fundamental things related to understanding the essence of concepts such as velocity, acceleration, mass, inertial frames of reference, etc.
If my memory serves me correctly, the essence of the calculation for an elephant in geostationary orbit (when the elephant hovers over one point on the Earth's surface) is as follows:
1. Calculate the potential energy of the elephant in the Earth's gravitational field relative to sea level.
2. This energy is equal to the kinetic energy of the elephant at the moment of takeoff from the surface (if we do not take into account friction with the air when exiting into orbit – in general, there will be a small error of about 10-15%).
3. From the value of the kinetic energy of the elephant, we obtain the vertical starting velocity of the launched elephant.
4. Next, we can consider various ways of launching the elephant – by spinning it while holding it by the trunk, or by running along an inclined chute of a given length, and calculate the acceleration during the acceleration of the elephant to the required speed.
5. From the acceleration and mass, we calculate the force that will act on the trunk during acceleration.
If the orbit is not geostationary, then we need to add the kinetic energy of the elephant's movement relative to the Earth's surface in orbit.
Something like that.
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Hey, maybe the "MIR" station was taken down by flying elephants? I think that if 5-6 of them crashed into it (assuming their mass is preserved at least 50%), it would be fatal for the station...
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4. Next, we can consider various ways to launch the elephant – by spinning it while holding it by the trunk, or by running along an inclined chute of a predetermined length, and calculate the acceleration as the elephant accelerates to the desired speed. 5. From the acceleration and mass, we calculate the force that will act on the trunk during acceleration.
You know, it's not that simple. It is known that Bhima's favorite trick was to grab the elephant by the trunk and spin it until it reached a speed 40 times greater than the first cosmic velocity. But the elephant wasn't just a bystander in this situation; it also likes to grab with its trunk, spin, and throw the opponent away. The picture with the lizard is good evidence of this. I think that in reality, Bhima and the elephant could circle each other for hours, like two wrestlers at the Olympics, making feints with their hands and trunks, and whoever gets caught first loses.
I am concerned about the elephant's aerodynamic characteristics, the combination of aerodynamic coefficient dependencies, as well as their derivatives and distributed loads from characteristic parameters that determine flight modes, the configuration of the object, and its orientation relative to the chosen coordinate system.
I really lack basic knowledge of physics; the values obtained are extremely approximate, and I suspect that the elephant won't fly anywhere.
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An elephant's body is 80% water, so it's unlikely that 50% would remain. The elephant, like a comet in the sun, is slowly melting. Unless it's launched in such a way that it constantly stays in the shadow of the Earth, but I can't immediately say whether this is even theoretically possible.
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2Nagan: Why be embarrassed about solving a complex problem if you haven't solved a simple one with a spherical elephant in a vacuum?
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No, I can’t anymore. :smile11: I’m leaving the stands.
I apologize, I have corporate events coming up (for some reason, Word keeps trying to correct the word to "cooperatives"). I’ll be back after the New Year, friends. I look forward to seeing you all at the festival in Moscow, and I’ll be glad to see old friends and meet new ones.
From January 4th to 7th.
Happy holidays to everyone!
Why be embarrassed about solving a complex problem if you haven’t solved a simple one, like a spherical elephant in a vacuum?
It wasn’t a vacuum, but combat conditions. We don’t even know, maybe he was holding the elephant by the trunk with one hand and fighting against Dushkhasana with the other. It wasn’t that simple.
Come to the festival, and we can talk.
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Stop it! ))) :smile40: Added after 7 minutes Attention! Ariputra is on the screen!
hahaha, it's hilarious, so funny.
Please tell me, why are you laughing here? while my PMs are all: Why not the other way around?
Well anyway: And really, what is there to fear? for 3 buckets of foul shit in PMs - you won't even get any points. O Brave warrior of Heroes World. ______________ numOne
As part of the competition program
__________________ True. sometimes it can look very unexpected! ;-) Nagan-4
Fine, let's say you convinced me and I started living by your concepts. Example 1. I work with a guy whose grandmother is Jewish—not an observant Jew, just by nationality. I've been to her place twice with this guy; she treated us to lunch. So I sit down at the table and say to her: "So, I bet this little soup was brewed from Orthodox infants, eh, Mary Semyonovna?". They'll throw me out of the house; instead of a good buddy, I'll get a mortal enemy.
Example 2. The dentist is dark-haired, possibly with Jewish roots. He's treating my teeth, giving me an injection... and I say to him: "Ah, you want to give me cervical cancer!!! (or whatever that thing instead of a neck is called)". I'll fly kicking out of the chair; I've been treating my teeth with him for 20 years, let me just keep having bad teeth, but at least I'm a patriot."
Example 3. New Year's corporate party, everyone is talking about the holiday, children, family... Me, conspiratorially winking: "Gentlemen, let's talk about the kikes instead!". In two or three minutes, I'll be sitting at the table alone.
It is hard for me to imagine that you are writing seriously, how terrible your life must be, full of such stupid hatred.
Well, how did you manage to draw such conclusions from what I wrote?
I hasten to gladden you Points 1 through 3 don't need doing; all that is needed is this:
1) not become a drug addict, 2) not be sleepless, 3) not dive headfirst into debauchery 4) not perish from another wave of mass vaccinations 5) not lose one's culture 6) protect one's children from all this.
Everyone thinks others are just like themselves ;-)
I have no hatred for them; they are merely the executors of our karma, who voluntarily took this burden upon themselves. But that doesn't mean you should obediently put your head in the guillotine (of drug addiction, alcoholism and debauchery with vaccination) that they have prepared for us all.
All are God's souls and naturally they are too (everyone is just conditioned differently), but I cannot love them for having ruined such a country, flooded Russia with drugs, getting the people drunk, corrupting the youth. Through the series "Univer", for example, they convince the youth that being—excuse my expression—a faggot is perfectly normal; should I love them for this? Nagan-4
Fine, typos, commas, sentences starting with lowercase letters—this is the internet. But this is already too much. If you are fighting for Russia, for Russian culture—learn the Russian language, at least to a middle school level. No one will listen to an illiterate guru.
Yes, you're right, I really do write illiterately, for which I apologize.
But please explain to me how we say, pronounce: poydsh, or poidesh'?
What is this rule based on? It would be fine if it were based on the etymology of this word. But in this case, why must you write ь after ш?
Spelling should be based on the etymology of words for the purpose of their further correct pronunciation, but today's rules are based on who knows what, and they change constantly.
And then it turns out that you check your spelling in Word, meaning it's not even you writing so grammatically—yet you're nagging me about my lack of knowledge of the Russian language :) You're a funny person indeed :)\
And in general, what Russian language are you talking about? 1) In pre-Christian Rus, in the Old Slavic written language—there were 147 letters, just as in modern Sanskrit. 2) 1000 years ago, the benefactors of all Rus, two Greek Jews Cyril and Methodius, shortened it to 53 letters. 3) Under Peter the First to 47, then to 43. 4) Under Nicholas II, to 37. 5) During the USSR to 33. 6) Now they want to shorten it to 28. 7) And ideally our kike government wants to shorten our alphabet to 24 letters like in modern Hebrew.
And turn us into Ellachka the Cannibal, reducing our vocabulary to 30 words.Nagan-4
Terrifying. For me, Zionism and antisemitism are the same. I hate any form of Nazism. Simply if you read the works of truly successful supporters of Nazism and the superiority of the Aryan nation, like Hitler or Goebbels—you can learn that cannibals are not only Jews, but also Slavs, including Russians. That they must be destroyed, like Jews, turned into slaves. What Ariputra writes was already done to the Russian people in the same forty years of the last century. But not by Zionists, but precisely by Aryans. Tens of millions of Russian people died; millions of children were left orphaned. I remember a grandfather who lived on our street; at 24 during the war he lost his legs—essentially the boy spent his whole life as a cripple. One grandfather was one-armed, another was one-legged. Good people, real Russian men, who protected Russia from Aryans so that we wouldn't slide into same-pig filth and become slaves.
Of everything I have read, there is no more Nazi philosophy than the one described in Shultan Aruh.
What you write shows that we are all swimming in a history that was specifically rewritten for us.
Hitler is also a half-breed Jew; if you're interested of course, read Mein Kampf: Compared to Shultah-Aruh, Mein Kampf is child's play. In Mein Kampf Hitler (Schelk-Gruber) - writes that he knows the power in Tsarist Russia as well as in Germany at the time was seized by kikes; there he also writes that he wants to help the brotherly Russian Slavic people rid themselves of the kike dominance.
Aryan is a person striving for perfection. It's not a nation at all.
Both Germans and Slavs are Aryans, aryans, aryans—by definition, nominally (due to the fact that both they and we are descendants of Aryans). At that time Germany and Russia were two most powerful states in both military and economic sense, while America, being under kike power, was not so at that time. So they decided to clash two Aryan empires together, making a good profit on blood and guts. Nagan-4
If the fascists had won, I'd like to see how Ariputra would dare call himself an Aryan; he'd be sleeping in a pen.
The fascists won? But didn't they win? Aren't they sitting in the Kremlin now? The President, prime minister, the whole government—all kikes (pure-bloods and half-breeds, well that's their division not mine), despite the fact that the state-forming nation, ethnos—are Slavs, Russians. In what other country in the world is it like this?????
If Hitler had won that war, now the people in Russia would live far better in every respect! In those territories he managed to capture, he gave peasants the opportunity to freely continue farming, gave loans to peasants for continuing agriculture, did not destroy either Orthodox or Christian churches (unlike our kike government). He didn't touch the people. And at the start of the war, the people didn't want and didn't participate in it (Shudras—workers—should not participate in war). But the kike government dragged the people into this meat grinder too. At the cost of the guts and blood of the people, the Kike government "honestly" defended its seized power. Nagan-4
Although, there is a fact—the person doesn't know the Russian language (forum communication), recent history (Aryans and Russia), mathematics (housing and feeding a billion people in a small space), laws of physics (elephants and laws of friction).
Yes, I write illiterately, it must be admitted. I will try. But how does this relate to the topics we are discussing???
In the end, there was a time when neither you nor I could wipe or wash our own butts and walked in our own mess. Let's look at each other from that position?! :)\
_____\ Aryans, Aryas, Aryans - "people striving for perfection" and Russia - where is the contradiction here?
_____\ Every day on the battlefield of Kuru-Kshetra new and new warriors arrived, 99% of whom died on the battlefield that same day; who was there to feed? At night corpses were removed and burned. All kings of the world participated in this battle. Please name at least one logical reason why 650 million warriors could not have gathered from all over the world? What historical (HisTorical) source tells us about the number of people living at the beginning of Kali Yuga, which started just over 5000 years ago—at the time when this battle occurred? _____\ How does it follow from the laws of physics, in a theory that has a huge number of contradictions with practice—how does it follow from these described laws that an elephant cannot be thrown into orbit? Plus you don't take into account a huge number of nuances, factors.
For example, that Bhima possessed mystical power, the influence of which on studied, currently known laws of nature is not studied or researched at all.
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I don't know if the Masons are to blame or someone else, but the fact is obvious.
He who wants to find a flaw will definitely find it ;-) Leolopus
The question here isn't about denying the hypothesis of their existence, but that Ariputra presents this information as a proven and 100% fact and posts photoshopped images dug up on the net as confirmation. Moreover, everything else he writes here is in his opinion reliable facts, and those who doubt this and try to dispute it are own same old noobs.
As confirmation I post "The Unknown History of Mankind"—which contains a huge number of archaeological proofs.
As proof I refer to the Holy Scriptures—which also have a huge number of archaeological confirmations.
Moreover, if you think otherwise please, I don't mind.Nagan-4
Actually, since this is the tribune. Seriously, how do you launch an elephant into orbit?
First cosmic velocity is the minimum speed at which a body moving horizontally over the surface of a planet will not fall on it, but will move in a circular orbit. For low-orbit satellites - 7.9 km/s; the satellite flies so fast that it doesn't have time to fall to the earth's surface, like a motorcyclist in a circus inside a sphere. The greater the initial speed given to the satellite, the higher its orbit will be. However, as one moves away from Earth, the velocity on a circular orbit drops and objects move along their orbits at a speed of only 2.5 km/s. For an elephant to fly for 5000 years, it needs to be raised to a great height. The movement of the elephant will also be affected by the Earth's atmosphere: even being ultra-rarefied at altitudes above 100 km from sea level (the conventional boundary of the atmosphere), it noticeably slows down the speed.
Moreover, an elephant has no jet engines; he cannot maintain a constant first cosmic velocity, i.e., there must be an impulse significantly exceeding the speed of 7.9 km/s. The mass of an elephant is 5 tons.
With what force then must he be flung into orbit? We should ask Horn, he knows how to snap such problems. Wrote to him in PM.
How does it follow from everything you wrote that this is impossible? Are you an expert in this field, in the field of the influence of speeds on elephant bodies? Where does it follow that warriors of the past could not throw an elephant to a height necessary for it to hang there for 5000 years? And that he would be torn apart in the process? Lider1
Nagan-4, haven't you realized yet? The main thing here is to believe. To believe authoritative sources that differ from official ones. From the corrupt power.
Everyone believes; only some believe in God, in God-revealed scriptures, in the experience of past generations, which matches holy scriptures one to one. And some believe in their own mind, in the fact that one should by no means use an already invented bicycle, wheel, Eternally existing laws of God—one must invent one's own bicycle, wheel and laws. Lider1
So what if it doesn't add up,
First of all, what doesn't add up? If something doesn't add up in our mind, that means nothing. Or is our mind the final instance in the search for truth? Lider1
so what if the photos are from photoshop,
Hundreds of thousands of these photographs were made even before Photoshop. The testimonies of people, tens of thousands of witnesses around the world—were those also made in Photoshop? Lider1
so what if all this looks like complete nonsense but it makes one feel special.
This allows one to understand that modern man is far from the pinnacle of nature and creation.
This allows one to understand that in the past there were people who surpassed me in size, intelligence, memory, character qualities.
Of course if all this is so, then against their background I become so small and insignificant, and this brings me suffering; that's why I just can't accept it, even theoretically. I defend myself.
______ And thoughtless, groundless denial of everything that doesn't fit into my understanding—that is naturally correct! Lider1
After all he stepped over stereotypes But the main thing is FAITH in all the nonsense that these sources pour into his suggestible head (although it doesn't consider itself as such).
Faith is complete conviction in something based on knowledge.
How wonderfully you turned everything upside down.
Listening to you—all Holy Scriptures: Bible, Quran, Vedas, Buddhist sutras etc.—are all nonsense and the raving of a grey mare, and hundreds of millions of people who believe in God according to their own ideas are lost idiots.
And official science which—over some 100 years—changes its testimony practically on every studied question—is the most authoritative source of knowledge. And the TV of course. There can be no doubts at all.
And Atheists—they are simply the pinnacle of creation, the pinnacle of human reason and logic, the embodiment—the culmination of common sense.
__________________ I think everyone will agree that our coarse physical body, organism is a most complex biological system—therefore it must have a creator—a general designer; therefore he must also have an operating manual and instructions for its interaction with surrounding reality.
Holy Scriptures (the essence of which is not perverted or distorted)—these are the instructions from the general designer (God) on the operation of our coarse physical body, and fine-material mental body. And the Goal of these instructions is to reduce our suffering, help the most living being—the soul, which never dies, realize its spiritual nature, get rid of fear and envy, be happy.
No one will argue that everyone wants to be happy; it's just that we all have different understandings of happiness. ______________________ It follows then that the Myths of ancient Greece are nonsense and raving; therefore Troy, sung in the Iliad—is also nonsense!
And Heinrich Schliemann, a self-taught archaeologist—the bastard, went and found it! And destroyed the entire previous logical chain.
Therefore other events described in the Iliad had a real basis!
And the Iliad was written by Homer based on Srimad-Bhagavatam, which is part of Vedic literature, texts of which have found hundreds of thousands of archaeological confirmations. _______________________
But if you say so, take any statement from the Quran, from the Bible, from Vedic literature—and prove that it's nonsense, but please do it scientifically. Otherwise you are just a chatterbox and a word-weaver!
Oelm
Bellies grow fat from living prayer
Every family has its black sheep! There are priests who use their position for their own greed. And there are Fathers who are capable of dying for their faith, for God, for People!
______ So many little bellies have appeared from beer lately, oh my oh my! NumOne
I'm not a physicist of course, but I'll risk suggesting that in order for an elephant to actually fly off the earth (overcome earthly gravity) its initial velocity at the moment of launch must be significantly greater than the first cosmic velocity, since the elephant has no jet engines to maintain a given speed during flight. He will very quickly lose the given acceleration, like, for example, a bullet fired into the sky after a few seconds slows its speed to 0 and flies back to earth (gravity is that kind of thing, it doesn't want to let anyone go just like that). From this one can conclude that the elephant must initially be given such a velocity that even specially equipped rockets would hardly withstand, i.e., the elephant would simply be torn apart, not only his trunk, considering also that for acceleration spinning by the trunk was used (not the most successful choice). Although maybe before there were elephants unlike current ones—more elastic and aerodynamic, and the force of gravity, without Zionist interference, was an order of magnitude smaller. Ariputra should know.
Truth for us can sometimes look very unexpected! Because we all already have our own ideas about truth formed!
___________________________ That's the point that neither you, nor I, and none of us here is an expert in the field of physics! But we reason here like experts! How can we give any expert conclusions or findings in this case?
___________________________ Modern physics is one big fraud—in which theory is pulled by the ears to practice, by means of coefficients.
coefficient is a coefficient of unknown, uncertainty, which on what basis it's not clear is introduced in order to bring, pull the theory into accordance with practice.
Today "Physics" cannot explain very simple phenomena that we observe every day:
1) Boiling water—according to physics a bubble cannot arise because the surface tension of the bubble is more than 1000 atmospheres, and the amount of energy needed to turn water into steam (a water molecule into gas phase) exceeds the average kinetic energy of liquid molecules by 13 times. That is, modern theory of physics contradicts phenomena that we can all observe.
2) Physics cannot explain why a plane flies—because the lift of today's planes is 10 times greater than the theoretically possible lift[/B]
3) Hydro-phonics—today physics cannot explain why in hydro-phonics products (nuclei, elements) arise in the soil that were not in the original substances in fertilizers, in the air, in the soil.
4) Mollusks—today physics cannot explain why some mollusks develop a chitinous covering under conditions where there is no calcium, when chitin contains calcium.
5) Lightning —modern theory of physics cannot explain it
Etc.
So how can we rely on such a theory of "Physics"—which contradicts practice, reality??? ______________________________________________________________
Where does it follow that warriors of the past did not possess such power? For us—now this is naturally unimaginable—impossible!!!
Plus one must consider that Bhima and other warriors described in Maha-Bharata are not ordinary personalities! You shouldn't compare them with you, with me, with us! These personalities—they are Maha-rathis, great warriors capable of deciding the outcome of a battle alone. Nagan-4, Leolopus, Noom
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You are doing mathematical and physical calculations, derivations; but are you sure that you've considered all components, all factors?
In Maha-Bharata it is described that Bhima possessed the strength of ten thousand elephants. That is, this is not just the strength of muscles—well, elephants have muscles too.
This is a certain mystical power. There are a huge number of examples when a fragile, delicate, from the point of view of muscles very weak scrawny woman, seeing that her child got hit by a car—easily flipped 1-2t cars or even threw these cars several meters. Where does such strength come from in a woman who has barely any muscles?
Does modern physics tell us in what units mystical power is measured?
Modern physics is one big continuous fraud! In which theory is pulled by the ears to reality, by means of all sorts of coefficients!
In the theory of physics there are so many discrepancies that you can just turn out the lights.
Plus why don't you consider that: Heating an object upon entering dense layers of atmosphere and upon exiting them—these are two different processes occurring with different heating, with different temperature.
Upon exiting dense layers of atmosphere objects do not heat up as critically as upon entry.
Plus those laws of physics described in modern theory are pulled to reality by the ears within it by means of coefficients.
Plus these laws are not fully applicable to that situation (mystical powers remain completely unaccounted for).
___________ And how does everything you wrote follow that warriors of the past, specifically Bhima, could not possess such power (mystical power)?
How does it follow from what you wrote that an elephant would be torn apart? Are there experiments proving this?
Is anyone among us an expert in the field of influence of speed, acceleration on a human or elephant body (besides, those were war elephants not like current ones)? Where does it follow that he would be torn apart? ______________________________________________________
Well if you consider this complete nonsense (impossible in principle)—well fly there, check, refute.
Tell me, why are you laughing here? And send everything to my private message:
Well, I already told you that you can write nonsense in private messages. But you can't do it publicly on the forum. If it were the other way around, I would have written it here too.
Let's talk about unexpected truth instead. ariputra
But if you insist, take any statement from the Quran, the Bible, or Vedic literature and prove that it's nonsense, but please do it scientifically. Otherwise, you're just a chatterbox and a word-monger!
So, why would I need to do that? Am I trying to prove something to someone here? Am I telling some unbelievable nonsense about elephants launched into orbit, and doing it with a serious face? If anything needs to be proven here, it's something you need to prove. And not in the "kill the Jews, save Russia" style, "we are Russians, God is with us", and so on, but with FORMULAS. Physics, mathematics. Prove that it was really possible to launch this elephant, what speed it should have at the start so that it doesn't burn up in the atmosphere, its trunk doesn't detach, and so on. And I don't need a link to your literature. If you start with A, then let's go to B. Otherwise, you're just talking nonsense. Although it's already clear who you are. ariputra
Therefore, the myths of ancient Greece are also nonsense, and the city of Troy, sung about in the Iliad, is also nonsense!
And Heinrich Schliemann, an archaeologist, was a fool who went and found it!
I don't know who Heinrich Schliemann is, and I don't care. But myths are myths, for me, they are just a fairy tale for a 12-year-old boy. If you believe in Zeus, Poseidon, etc., then what can we talk about?
What Schliemann smoked or took is also not very important to me. ariputra
The point is that neither you, nor I, nor anyone of us here is an expert in physics! But we are arguing like experts! How can we give any expert opinions or conclusions in this case?
Pete is actually a physicist by profession. He seriously studies science. Maybe you should ask him to explain it to you as an expert? Or do you not want to destroy your "fragile worldview"? You feel so comfortable in your shell, don't you? ariputra
Physics cannot explain why an airplane flies – because the lift of today's aircraft is 10 times greater than the theoretically possible lift.
Here we go again with the nonsense. So, there are guys in aviation institutes who have a book, one has the Torah, the second has the Bible, the third has Vedic literature. And they all read their mantras. And that's why the plane takes off. A mandatory condition is that they must be Jews, only their cunning thought can achieve this. Don't embarrass yourself, okay? ariputra
So how can we rely on such a theory of "Physics" – which contradicts practice, reality???
Newton invented mechanics. These laws worked then, and they still work now. Cunning Jews could not change anything. So your elephants wouldn't go anywhere (if they even existed), unlike the laws of physics, which can be used to calculate this. ariputra
It's a certain mystical force.
Ah. I see. It's much worse than it seemed. The patient is beyond saving.
Added 31 minutes ago Attention! Ariputra will answer soon. This is how he answers all posts and anything related to life. Wisdom and elephants, battles of 1 billion, alternative history, and a certain mystical force come from there. Everything is in the common field of meaning. Watch to the end! in 480
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
Well, I already told you that you can write trash in private messages. But publicly on the forum you can't. If it were the other way around, I'd write it here too.
Oh, brave warrior of Heroes World. Glory to you.
Flooding the PMs of a person who never said a single bad word to you with filth — well, that takes a lot of courage and intelligence.
And it would be fine if you only insulted me there, I could bear that, but even that wasn't enough for you. You didn't limit yourself to me. Lider1
Let's better talk about the unexpected truth
So, why would I need that? Am I trying to prove something to someone here? Am I talking about some unreal nonsense? About elephants launched into orbit, and with a smart look at that. If anything needs proving here, it's up to you. And not in the style of "beat the Jews, save Russia", "we are Russian, God is with us" and the like, but with FORMULAS. Physics, math. Prove that this elephant could indeed be thrown out, what speed it must have at launch so it doesn't burn up in the atmosphere, its trunk doesn't tear off, and so on. I don't need some lousy link to your literature. If you start saying A, then give B as well. Otherwise, you're a blabbermouth. Although it's clear enough who you are.
Alright, go ahead. Provide the mathematical and physical calculations accounting for all factors — from which it follows that this is fundamentally impossible. _____________
Well then, why do you make any assertions, call something nonsense, rubbish, which later become unnecessary to you?
And again, you baselessly slap on labels — "unreal nonsense, rubbish, drivel" — if you're calling something drivel, at least provide some evidence, be so kind.
As evidence, I present the holy scriptures — which have a huge number of archaeological confirmations, which have been tested by time, by millions of people, or are those people in your eyes also — lost idiots?
But you just stick labels. Quite a convenient position.
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No, of course you have to love the Jews! And what else can you do with "people" who get the youth drunk and corrupt them?! What else can you do with the benefactors of all Rus' who destroyed industry, healthcare, the army (this year reduced to 500,000 thousand) — not enough borders to close, agriculture (if supplies from the West stop, store shelves will be empty in 2-3 days), education.
A school graduate comes home and says: "Mom, give me money, I lost at the Unified State Exam." Lider1
I don't know who Heinrich Schliemann is, I don't care. But myths are myths, for me it's a fairy tale for a 12-year-old boy, nothing more. If you believe in Zeus, Poseidon, etc., then what is there to talk to you about?
Repin's painting — "They've Arrived"! :) If you don't know who Schliemann is, well then I have no questions.
"Myths" — that is, fairy tales in people's minds — were made that way by the rulers of that time. It's easier to control people who have lost their culture and knowledge, to lead them to the needed watering hole, or off a cliff.
Ignoring inconvenient, universally recognized facts that there's nothing to say against and that prove the authority of the myths of Ancient Greece, the Quran, the Bible, etc. A very convenient position.
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What your Schliemann was smoking or taking, I don't care much about that either.
Everyone judges others by themselves ;-) Lider1
Pit is actually a physicist by profession. Maybe ask him to explain it to you as an expert? Or should we not destroy the "fragile worldview"? Your shell, you're so comfortable in it after all.
Well, let him. Lider1
Here comes the drivel again. So in aviation institutes, there are these guys with books — one has Thor, another has the Bible, a third has Vedic literature. And they all read their mantras. And that's how a plane takes off. A prerequisite is that they must be Jews, only their cunning thoughts can produce such a result. Wouldn't you want to avoid embarrassing yourself, huh?
Here comes the label again.
Based only on the fact that something doesn't fit into our understanding of reality. Lider1
Newton invented mechanics. These laws worked back then and still work today. The cunning Jews couldn't change a thing. So your elephants wouldn't have gone anywhere, if they existed at all, unlike the laws of physics by which this can be calculated.
So before him, it didn't exist? :)
Isn't it logical to assume that if there are laws, then there is a lawgiver? Well, who is that lawgiver then? Newton? Or maybe it's still God — the chief designer of nature, of this universe.
Or perhaps such a complex structure as the universe formed itself?
That's the same as saying: a plane formed on its own — after an explosion at an aircraft factory — well, all the components were there for it.
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Alright, go ahead and calculate it, or let Pit for LM calculate it. Lider1
Aah. I see. Things are much worse than they seemed. The patient is beyond saving.