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Once again: if both opponents want to play with their own settings, who would be harmed by that?

Personally, I would be harmed by that. Read my post again and think about whether you should sign up or not. And you need to sign up via ICQ.
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Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Basically, to avoid answering Javdet's question repeatedly, I'll clarify the situation.
I've been considering the idea for this tournament for a long time, and as always, the main question was: which version should it be played on? I previously organized a tournament on the default WoG (OFB and FB), but it wasn't well-received, so for this tournament, I chose SoD.
This tournament is for SoD players, which is reflected in the default SoD rules. I introduced the WoG platform only as a bonus for some enthusiasts who prefer playing on HotA, and I want it to be perceived in the same way as SoD, with the same morale settings, etc. (as described in the rules). I definitely don't want to get involved in the eternal debate about "What's better, SoD or WoG, and why is it better." I want players to enjoy the game (including through motivation), and viewers to see a game played according to fixed rules, without any complications or agreements. If "partisan warfare" starts, as Javdet said, I will most likely remove WoG as an option and leave only SoD.
Just read the rules and decide for yourself whether to accept them or not, and if you do, play according to them. I'm not going to chase after every pair and check if they've disabled morale for their creatures or not.
I hope you understand.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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I understand that the opportunity has passed, but there was a very interesting proposal on the portal. For each player, 4 SOD templates and 3 VT are provided. That is, if a SOD player plays against a VT player, he essentially gives the latter a choice of template. Or agrees to VT. In my opinion, this is an absolutely "peaceful" option. Moreover, in this format, it is a real king of the hill.

P.S. Yes, and what kind of True-SOD tournament would it be without anarchy?
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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I understand that the opportunity has passed, but there was a very interesting proposal on the portal. For the Черка faction, 4 SOD templates and 3 VT are given. That is, if a Черка player plays against a VT player, he effectively gives the latter a choice of template. Or he agrees to VT. In my opinion, this is an absolutely "peaceful" option. Moreover, in this format, it is a real king of the hill.

P.S. Yes, and what kind of True-SOD tournament would it be without anarchy?

This is not a solution at all; some players don't play with 1-2 templates, and here they would have to adapt to play a particular version, but I want everything to go smoothly.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Dear friends, the organizer has made a decision, finalized all the rules, and doesn't plan to change them. It's up to you (us) to agree or not; what's the point of arguing? It's easier to create an alternative one specifically for Warlords players if something fundamentally doesn't suit you. I remember there was something similar on TOH http://toheroes.com/tourn/tourn.html, for example, Warlords. I'm also ready to play in the SoD competition, in principle. And maybe I'll sign up for both if someone comes up with a plan :)
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I understand that the opportunity has passed, but it was still a very interesting proposal on the portal. For each player, 4 SOD templates and 3 VT are provided. That is, if a player using SOD plays against a player using VT, they are essentially giving the latter a choice of template. Or they agree to use VT. In my opinion, this is an absolutely "peaceful" option. Moreover, in this format, it's a real king of the hill.

P.S. Yes, and what kind of True SOD tournament would it be without anarchy?

This is not a solution at all; some players don't play with 1-2 templates, and here they would have to adapt to play a particular version, but I want everything to be without stress.
Well, a king of the hill should play on a wide range of templates, a priori.
Земля нуля.
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In this case, it makes sense for the contender to choose a map where the strongest player has to prove their superiority.
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In my opinion, it would be better to use the Mountain King on M200. Although, maybe that's a bad idea.
I agree, and we could also add balance to L+U, then we could have 2 games per week. Mon-Thu, 1 game, and Fri-Sun, 2 games, if there are more players. Or, after thinking it over, Fri-Sun (preferably with a broadcast) and Mon-Tue for any remaining games, and Wed-Thu for the draw.
"Бороться, бороться, пока не покинет надежда, что может быть в жизни прекрасней подобной игры." В.Каверин "Два капитана".
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And you could also play 7 games a week, with a high pace, and the statistics would be more accurate. And then you could draw conclusions after 10 years. And you could also exclude Counter-Strike, Dota, and Heroes from the list.
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We used to play with 2 Double Daggers, and now we're playing with 1.

As a newbie, I don't understand the point of this ban at all; it would be better to ban the use of Double Daggers on a section of the map hidden by the Veil of Darkness, but otherwise, let them jump as much as they want; moves are lost, and the choice is up to the player as to where to spend MP. (Although then scouts with air experience will become as valuable as gold).
Bans, bans, bans everywhere:confused:.
"Бороться, бороться, пока не покинет надежда, что может быть в жизни прекрасней подобной игры." В.Каверин "Два капитана".
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You could also play 7 games a week, which would maintain a high pace and provide more accurate results. And you could summarize the results after 10 years. You could also exclude Counter-Strike, Dota, and Heroes of Might and Magic from the rankings.
And anyone can challenge the current champion in a poker game at NL600.
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Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions everywhere:confused:.

Heroes is a very unbalanced game. I used to think it was perfect. Maybe it seems that way to you now. Over time, the illusions fade. You need to play it more to understand and feel all of this. It's frustrating to read such texts.

"A good game is one where everything you have can be used, just as your opponent can use everything they have against you."

because I agree with this, and I am aware of how flawed the game itself is. Just think about the list of rules and restrictions. But without rules, there is anarchy.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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This game is very unbalanced. I used to think it was perfect. Maybe it seems that way to you now.
Not quite, I didn't know anything about templates; we just played, choosing the size and 200%. I noticed the imbalance of maps (created from random templates) right away, but I couldn't explain it. That's what I was doing during the period of 2007-2011. Restrictions are needed, but I don't understand all of them. For example, why isn't there a ban on ranged units in a hidden area of the map? It's right next to it, but otherwise, it's just "UNFAIR."
My first comment was made without reading the entire thread; I just reacted immediately. I'm always against numerous changes in topics where specific information about a tournament is provided, rather than suggesting a discussion "around the table."
It's just that there might be many people who want to participate, and something can be changed.
I think the author of the project thought about it before announcing the tournament; it's not like he had a dream during the Hour of the Apocalypse.)))
But if someone experienced were to launch a tournament in parallel, let's call it "King of Kings" with three groups: SoD, VT under SoD, and full WT, and then at the end of the year (late autumn), there would be a "fight" in each group to determine who would be the king, and then the kings would compete for the supreme throne – that would be great.
"Бороться, бороться, пока не покинет надежда, что может быть в жизни прекрасней подобной игры." В.Каверин "Два капитана".
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and in which version will the kings compete for the supreme throne? =))
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and on which version will the kings compete for the supreme throne? =))
There are many options, we'll come up with something in a year.
1st option: a circular map for starters, one for each faction: there are many possibilities...
2... nothing unique comes to mind yet... I need to go home... I'll think about it...
"Бороться, бороться, пока не покинет надежда, что может быть в жизни прекрасней подобной игры." В.Каверин "Два капитана".
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