To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question. — Tournament Committee

Captain

12/9/2012 8:09 AM UTC

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Yeah, the chat log is something else...
It feels like a twelve-year-old was writing under the nickname Vigo...

- Either I create [something] or BAN!

What a fun guy :)

In my opinion, you're entertaining people :)
This was in 2008; Vigo was the lead tournament organizer, a master, and there were no complaints or suspicions about him yet.
And there's a newbie - a real hotshot - who has already been flagged as a suspected map hacker by many (more than three) strong players.
It's logical that the lead organizer might check this player, and their conversation (lively and lasting 40 minutes!) seems suspicious to the organizer?
The hotshot was rightly banned there, and here (on HW) his shady moves were also discussed, but there wasn't enough evidence, but even Vic - a big expert in catching cheaters (no one disputes this?), says that the hotshot is a cheater and that playing with him ruins the karma.
And this post from the hotshot is a typical situation: attack others to distract attention from yourself.

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

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bRitvo4kA

12/9/2012 10:21 AM UTC

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Captain

Leolopus, who are you?
Not the one I asked to punish with a nickname starting with "B," and who quickly disappeared :)
Something is unclear; what are you doing here? Are you an authority in Heroes of Might and Magic III, or have you caught many cheaters in your life? (To immediately shut down questions from such newbies as you about me, let's just say that I've probably caught more cheaters than some people have played games:))

How many? Give me a list. Provide evidence, at least like this link.

You wrote that I was supposedly officially banned for cheating on HotA.
So, Vigo banned me on HotA based on the dialogue provided in the link above.

Furthermore, he wrote:

Captain

This was in 2008; Vigo was then the leading tournament organizer, a master, and there were no complaints/suspicions against him yet.
And there's a newbie - a sharp player - who has already managed to be suspected of maphacking by many (more than three) strong players.

Either you stand behind your words and provide facts, or you're just a loser.

В дикім полі

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Kilgor

12/9/2012 10:36 AM UTC

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bRitvo4kA

You wrote that I was supposedly officially banned for cheating on Heroes of Might and Magic, and that more than three players suspected me of this.
So, I was banned on Heroes of Might and Magic by Vigo, based on the dialogue provided in the link above.

Either you stand by your words (the post was deleted, so I can't quote you), and provide facts to the contrary, or you're just a jerk.

My post was deleted, but I was writing about the same thing. All of the admin's arguments, considering the logs, are ridiculous. And I assume there's no link with a detailed analysis of everything.

to numOne
As I understand it, Vigo won't appear here anymore because he has nothing to say, and the topic is slowly turning into a dispute between Vigo's supporters (who defended Vigo more actively than Vigo himself) and his opponents. Besides the fact that truth is born in disputes, the character of a person is also revealed, and if this character is... negative (and various variations on this theme), then forum members should be aware of this. Don't delete posts; let the forum be warned.

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Qwerty

12/9/2012 11:00 AM UTC

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Nick 1

I read the thread from beginning to end. I voted. Now I will ask some questions and share my opinion.

Questions:

1) to Qwerty: Please confirm whether the forum user with the nickname Vigo has a son older than 13 who plays or has played Heroes 3.

Yes, I saw him several times in May at a barbecue. There were about 15 other people there, including me...

Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер

Oelm

12/10/2012 3:48 AM UTC

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Navukh: - captain

In my opinion, you're amusing people.

You are constantly amusing the Heroes community. But the level of amusement is about the same as from a dropped condom filled with water.

Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.

Captain

12/10/2012 7:24 AM UTC

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Oelm, you're being yourself – your posts are simply made to adorn the forum.

It's just unclear where the moderators are looking; they delete my posts, but these three remain. Biased attitude ;)

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

Егор Коробейников

12/10/2012 9:13 AM UTC

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Read the log...
You didn't want to play on my generator, I didn't want to play on yours, we asked once and moved on. Why did two adults make a scene and start asking questions over and over?
I believe being on this portal is not a right, but a privilege.
Therefore, if the admins decided to ban someone, they shouldn't have to explain anything to anyone, but Vigo was asked questions and didn't receive answers. Although Vigo himself banned Britva in the same way, and now wants a different attitude towards himself; I think this behavior is strange. You can't treat people the way you don't want to be treated.

Lider1

12/10/2012 9:27 AM UTC

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Interesting information. I heard a long time ago that someone was banned on Heroes of Might and Magic for cheating. Now I know what they did. Lol.

Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того

cheban

12/10/2012 10:29 AM UTC

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I confirm everything I described earlier regarding the situation with the "vigoboy." At that time, the situation upset me, and I was ready to quit online gaming altogether, but as it turned out, there had been similar precedents, and the situation was resolved.
In any game, I only play to win, whether it's a season or a tournament; otherwise, what's the point of playing? You need to respect both yourself and your opponent. Of course, there's less concentration in a season than in tournament games, and it results in a loss of momentum for 1-2 days over a month of playing. For me, what's even more critical is when a small child distracts me. I don't understand players who play casually in a season because you won't gain experience that way, and your opponent won't either. You need to respect each other. And you should warn people that you're not playing alone; are they okay with that or not? Then there won't be any questions.

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Captain

12/10/2012 10:38 AM UTC

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Lider1

Funny info. I heard a long time ago that Britva was banned on HP for cheating. Now I found out what he did it for. Lol.

Here's the link about why Britva was banned:
http://heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=246617&pagenum=22

He registered on HP on August 10, and was already banned on August 18.
A newbie (according to him), played about ten games, confirmed one of his losses, two – no (against me and AlOne), and won all other games – almost all against very strong players (the guy had an amazing intuition).

Two years later, he got caught again on this portal:
/topic/7143/
Then opinions were divided in the AC and among the players by approximately 60-40.
Now you will have more information about him :) - not just one log of Britvochka

Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.

HellLighT

12/10/2012 11:14 AM UTC

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Lol, oelma and vlk's nicknames turned black :D are they banned? p.s. sorry for the off-topic, didn't know where to ask)

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numOne

12/10/2012 11:34 AM UTC

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HellLighT

Lol, oelm and vlk's nicknames turned black :D are they banned? p.s. sorry for the off-topic, didn't know where to ask.

Vlk has been blacklisted for a long time, and rightfully so. As for Oelm, it's unclear. Someone from the outside moderators (not from the "Heroes III" section) gave him violation points, and he automatically got banned because he already exceeded the threshold of 100 points. He should be unbanned in about a week, but if someone else continues to do this on their own, assigning points, he might end up with a permanent ban.

Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.

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Gomunguls

12/10/2012 11:46 AM UTC

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numOne

It's unclear what happened with Oelm. One of the external moderators (not from the "third game" section) gave him violation points, and he was automatically banned.

He probably stuck his nose somewhere else and complained... that's why he got banned :D

Удача любит подготовленных!!!

Стримы и обучение тут:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWlnXU5R5RLCMuWzIpBc65Q

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Kilgor

12/10/2012 11:59 AM UTC

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Captain

Here is a link about why Britva was banned:
http://heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=246617&pagenum=22

He registered on HP on August 10th and was already banned on August 18th.
A newbie (according to him), he played about ten games, confirmed one of his losses, but not two others (against me and AlOne), and won the rest – almost all against very strong players (the guy had an amazing intuition).

Two years later, he got caught again on this portal:
/topic/7143/
At that time, opinions were divided in the AC and among the players, approximately 60-40.
Now you will have more information about him :) - and not just one log from Britvachka

I'm just being annoying, Captain :p , I read the links you sent. The HP link doesn't mean anything; it actually makes Britvachka look innocent. But the HW link is more interesting; I studied it, thought about it, and here's what I have to say. Time, relentless time, has shown that with a probability of 99.9%, Britva is not cheating. (I don't think we need to talk about DNA?:)). If he was cheating, the AC would already have accumulated a lot of information about him (like with Vigo), and he would have been banned. At the moment, Britva is in the top 20 strongest players in the world, and you should not accuse him but learn from him.

numOne

VLK has long since gone dark and is doing his job. As for Oelm, it's unclear. One of the external moderators (not from the "troika" section) gave him violation points, and he was automatically banned because he had already exceeded the threshold of 100 points. He should be unbanned in about a week, but if someone else starts engaging in this kind of self-activity by assigning points, they may end up being permanently banned.

Of course, maybe I'm just paranoid, but we need to find out who assigned him points and why, because it might be revenge...?

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