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Experts, please provide a detailed explanation of all the unique features of the HD mod for the 2x2 game. (Manual selection of alliances, nuances of exchanging troops between players, etc.)
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Uh... I didn't really want to engage in pointless chatter...) but I'll still suggest setting a limit for the game: 1000 + 500 (the request was 1000 + 400). It's just... impossible otherwise... Here are the arguments: - We all know each other. - This won't significantly increase the game time. - But it will qualitatively improve the result. - In the last game, on map 116, there was a double GO: 100 Zealots, 70 Cyclops, then 2 Guardians at once, 9 Chaos Hydras, and 100 Medusa Queens. After that, a rush to the center - even if you try your best, you won't have enough time and you'll just be vulnerable to attack. I generally approve of the limit, but please consider it... I think it's a good idea!
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Watched the video, it's interesting! Started reading the rules carefully.
- it is allowed to enter the ally's zone without breaking through the Gate of Order.

So, can I pass to the opponent through a glitched passage without breaking through to the center at all?
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Watched the video, it's interesting! Started reading the rules carefully.
- it is allowed to enter the ally's zone without breaking the Gate of Oblivion.

So, can I go to the opponent through the bugged passage without breaking the passage to the center at all?
You can go to the ally, but not to the opponent, of course!
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The Tournament starts on 02.01.13


WT settings.
Time 1000+400
Artifacts and spells:
Banned artifacts: Water artifacts, Orb of Inhibition, Cloak of the Undead King, Badge of Courage
Banned magic: Water magic, Visions, Air and Earth Views.

WT options:
experience - off
tax - off
bank - off
ability to leave an artifact - off
anticheat - on
chess clock - on
timer stops in combat - off
money transfer - off
Mage Guild rebuilding - on
empty battlefield - off
no speed stack - off
disable morale - off
class ban - on

gold instead of scrolls - on
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Questions for the organizers.
If possible, please answer.
1. What is the deadline for submitting an application?
2. Is the mod installed the same way as in SoD? Just copy and paste?
3. Water artifacts - are these for water movement, like the Captain's Hat or ???
4. Let's say the Orb of Inhibition is clear, I'm for banning it in SoD too, but the Cloak of the Undead King??? Make it a relic so it's harder to get, but leave it in the game, imho.
5. The rest of the artifacts are clear, I don't understand what the Badge of Courage did wrong.
6. Who came up with the "wonderful" idea to ban all water magic and why? So, as I understand it, the Ring of Freezing is banned, you can't cast Ice Bolt. But then Conflux should also be banned, some (I can't remember which at the moment) elementals are only obtained from water.
The ban on Visions and Views (including all other restrictions combined) leads the WT version not to a different game, but to a narrow strategic template on the same map, familiar to a certain group of people. Am I right?
7. Money transfer is no, meaning I can't send resources to an ally??? Why? What's the point of alliances then?
8. What does class ban mean?
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Imho, of all the bans, I agree with the Cloak of the Undead King, and I'm all for banning the Orb of Inhibition in all versions.
Give the Cloak of the Undead King a chance!!!!!
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I really want to join the tournament, but since being registered means I initially undertake to follow the rules, I'm primarily deciding on the time, and then I'll see what I want and don't want.
"Бороться, бороться, пока не покинет надежда, что может быть в жизни прекрасней подобной игры." В.Каверин "Два капитана".
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"Fight, fight, until hope is lost, for what could be better in life than such a game?" V. Kaverin, "Two Captains."
Hang up your boots!
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1. What is the deadline for applications?
It's preferable to submit by around the 20th so we can finalize the rules and plan the schedule of official and combat activities :)
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2. Is the mod installed the same way as in SoD? Just copy and paste?
Honestly, I don't know, because I don't use it (yeah yeah, I can't be bothered, like all the SoD players from WT xD). But I think it's the same.
leosnow

3. Water artifacts – are these for water movement, like the Captain's Hat or ???
Absolutely right, I don't think you'd be too happy to get a HAT in a Dragon Utopia ;)
leosnow

4. For example, the Red Ball is clear, I'm for banning it in SoD too, but what about the Cloak of Displacement??? Make it a relic to make it harder to get, but it should stay in the game, IMHO.
We're buffing mages, what reason would I have to play Adelaide against Brogh if the Cloak were available?
leosnow

5. The rest of the artifacts are clear, but I don't understand what the Badge of Courage did wrong.
This topic has been discussed a million times, it's bugged; based on the useful properties it provides, it's worth at least a relic, if not close to it :)
leosnow

6. Who came up with the "brilliant" idea to ban all water magic and why? So, as I understand it, the Ring of Cold is banned, you can't cast Ice Bolt. But then you should also ban Conflux, since some elementals (I don't remember which ones at the moment) can only be obtained from water.
The ban on Vision and Viewing (along with all the other restrictions combined) doesn't turn the WT version into a different game, but into a narrow strategic template on the same map, familiar to a certain group of people. Am I right?
oh, dear xD Water magic means walking on water) The ban on viewing spells only means you can't build them in the Mage Guild. It's for balance ;)
leosnow

7. Transfer of money - no, does that mean I can't transfer resources to my ally? Why? What's the point of alliances then?
Transfer of money refers to the 111 feature. There's no such thing in SoD; it's used for trading during random town selection. Trading through markets works like in SoD
leosnow

8. What does a ban on classes mean?
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A ban on WT classes :) we play as close to SoD as possible
leosnow

IMHO, of all the bans, I agree with the Cloak of the Undead King, and I'm all for banning the Red Ball in all versions.
Give the Cloak of Displacement a chance!!!!!
I already explained about the Cloak of Displacement; the Cloak of the Undead King, I have no idea where that came from xD there are no necromancy artifacts in WT at all.
leosnow

I really want to join the tournament, but since registering means I initially commit to following the rules, I'll decide on the time first, then see what I want and don't want.
ur welcome! As for the time, I've already said: an average game is 5-7 hours, we play from Saturday to Sunday!

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Kilgor
I watched the video, interesting! Started reading the rules carefully.
Go for it, go for it) the more people, the more action xD

Kilgor

So, through the bugged passage, I can get to the enemy without breaking through to the center at all?
yes, but only to your ally; also you can use Dimension Door, fly, dig underground passages, blast mountains, chop down forests, drain swamps, and preferably, while doing all this, don't touch the marijuana bushes xD

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D
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I think I'll sign up for Variator's team; I've got a decent internet connection now, so I can play a bit. I've started practicing these (100)+400 scenarios – in the first one, sometimes the AI doesn't make its move, or most of the units are weak, and there were only "chains" on the first level – then it just gets stupid:o... A normal battle in the center on the second level can easily last more than 200 seconds, and if it's not the only one like that, well, we'll just have to get used to it:). 632499811
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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Well, our team has been formed, namely WariatorHW + KostyaN. We are officially announcing this! Good luck to everyone!
Каждое поражение-навоз успеха!Герои как жизнь: непредсказуемы как городская маршрутка ,капризны как наши женщины,увлекательны как рыбалка в период нереста ,коварны и отвратительны если мышкой движет слюнявый читер! всё в них есть и это.......

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Umm... I didn't really want to spam the chat... but I'll still suggest setting the game limit to 1000+500 (the request was 1000+400). It just doesn't work otherwise... Anyway, here are the arguments: - We all know each other. - This won't significantly increase the game time. - But it will qualitatively improve the result. - In the last game, on day 116, there was a double Guardian Order: 100 zealots, 70 cyclops, then 2 guards at once, 9 chaos hydras, and 100 medusa queens. After that, a rush to the center. You can try as much as you want, but you won't have enough time, and you'll just be vulnerable to attack. I generally approve of the limit, but still... Please consider it. I think it's a good idea!
As someone who has played about 20 games on Jebb in the 600+300 format, both in tournaments and practice, I'd like to note that it's desirable to accumulate some time during the first week to break the Guardian Order more effectively; otherwise, you might really lose a day for nothing.

An alternative option is to break the Guardian Order not with a rush, but on the contrary, at the end of the turn, so that the timer that ends in the battle doesn't interfere with development.

A strategic nuance: it often makes sense to play days 116-117 purely symbolically, not trying to get everything that the army of the first week gets, but saving the timer, setting up chains, so that on day 121 you can bring all this to a quick combat. The exit to the center will be one day later, but it will be much more stable and with a larger time reserve. In particular, the lost day is often made up for by the ability to move after breaking the Guardian Order.

I think all of this can also be applied to 1000+400.
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Well, our team has been formed, namely WariatorHW + KostyaN. We are officially announcing this! Good luck to everyone!
Gentlemen, it's your turn to come up with a name.

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D
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Rather yes than no. I'll play either on a team with Tyoma (from Siberia) or with Alex.
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As someone who has played approximately 20 games on Jebb in the 600+300 format, both in tournaments and practice games, I would like to note that it is advisable to accumulate some time during the first week to allow for a more effective push for the Gate of the Worlds (GOTW), otherwise you might indeed lose a day for no reason.

An alternative option is to not rush the GOTW, but rather to attack it towards the end of the turn, so that the timer that ends after the battle does not interfere with development.

A strategic nuance is that it often makes sense to play turns 116-117 purely symbolically, not trying to gather everything that the army of the first week gathers, but instead saving the timer, setting up chains, so that on turn 121 you can quickly complete everything. This will result in reaching the center one day later, but it will be much more stable and with a larger time buffer. In particular, the lost day is often compensated for by the ability to move after pushing for the GOTW.

I think that all of this is also applicable to 1000+400.
Yur, read the rules and the reports from the previous tournament. Map L, the monsters are weak - 121 is often already a late stage of the game.
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Yur, please read the rules and review the reports from the previous tournament. The map is large, and the monsters are weak – 121 is often a late-game number here.
Looking at the numbers "100 zealots, 70 cyclops, then 2 guardians at once - 9 chaos hydras and 100 medusa queens," I don't see a big difference.

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