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Posts from To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question.
Kilgor, I understand, but your claims in this matter are of little interest to anyone – just like the accusations about maphacking. Please don't clutter the thread. I've made a specific proposal to the administration. Further arguing will only lead to negativity. An opinion poll is a decent solution; the forum will decide this issue, and everyone will be satisfied with the result (even a negative result is still a result). They'll move on and stop criticizing and just watch Jobus' streams!
It wasn't you who made the proposal; it was made a long time ago, and there might be a vote (although I'm against it). But I want to get an answer to my question, and until I get it, I'll keep repeating it in every post so that Vigo doesn't accidentally overlook it. And if you bother to read even a little of this thread, you'll understand how this question relates to maphacking.
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b) This is happening in real life, and if my physical and moral qualities allow me to do so, then why not?
That's precisely why we won't understand each other. My moral qualities don't allow me to throw people under the bus; yours do. If the argument continues, let's move to the tribunal. You say I wrote nonsense and provide a link to the tribunal where the justification lies.
to Vigo DID you fulfill your obligations regarding that tournament? (1000 USD)
"Dmitry Medvedev: Do you think that if a person is publicly shamed on television, they should be immediately imprisoned?" "Dmitry Medvedev: In fact, I would like to bring everyone back to the legal framework. I believe that no one has abolished the presumption of innocence." "Dmitry Medvedev: An investigation is underway; let it sort things out, establish the objective truth in the case, bearing in mind that, ultimately, the decision or the final determination of who is guilty and who is not guilty is made not by the investigation, as is known, but by the court. The investigation is only one side in the process. There is also the defense. Therefore, the prosecution and the defense must present their arguments. ...all of this must be determined by the investigation, carefully analyzed, and presented to the court, both with regard to all the individuals involved in the case who are currently being investigated, and with regard to other individuals. Until this is done, he and other individuals are presumed innocent; I would ask you not to forget this."
Please ask a specific question! Otherwise, my eyes are getting tired from all the posts.
Several people are asking you questions – me, SevenSan, Kilgore. Direct questions. You haven't answered any of them. :smile32:
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
Kilgor
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Albert@s
don't get worked up — you had nothing to do with this tournament; this matter has long been known in certain circles and is closed. If you really have a desire to find out something about this — maybe you should meet with Vigo and settle it face to face. What do you think?
I am not getting worked up, I just cannot understand why Vigo cannot answer this question? Actually, I do understand — the portal fulfilled his obligations to the winners, but he did not fulfill his own. However, I want to hear it from him. As for meeting, unfortunately I live in the middle of nowhere... very far away in Siberia, and can only participate in online tournaments. In real life I only see Siberians, and if Vigo deigns to come to Bratsk I would be happy to talk with him. Maybe then I will understand what he uses to win everyone over (you, Querti...)
Several people are asking you questions - me, SevenSan, Kilgore. Direct questions. You didn't answer any of them. :smile32:
You answered all the questions. I answered Seven, and I was really lucky, regarding maphacking - Seven, give me a chance, and I'll show you the flag I was heading for, which I conquered easily. Kilgore - I don't even know who he is or what he represents, maybe we can have a cup of tea together and figure it out.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
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Enough with the off-topic chatter! Let only Vigo answer. Otherwise, it's already giving him a headache.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
I've answered all your questions. Regarding Seven, I was answering that I actually got lucky; as for the maphack — give me a save and I'll show you the flag I was heading straight for. Kilgor — I have no idea who that is or what they're about; maybe we can have some tea together and figure it out.
Really? 1) Did you pay the claimed 1000$ for the tournament? 2)
Next question: Has it ever happened that someone else played in Heroes 3 tournaments for you — specifically, actually played on your behalf, with your consent?
It did. Some of my comrades might have made a few moves while I stepped away and didn't manage to return and move in time. This was with my consent.
Who was it? Nicknames. 3) Messages:
Message from Sir Gorbik As it turns out, the obligations for this tournament have still not been fulfilled. Well, consider that I personally was scammed out of 1000 USD. Thanks to the team members who will help resolve this problem. Sir Vigo's application is blocked. Write to me; I will urgently pay out the prizes. Sorry for the delay. I hope for your understanding.
Message from Catch ...Vitalik ran tournaments, Lady Asha managed the rating and handled the rules... But not everything was so simple. Literally after a couple or three months, I began to doubt Vitalik. Specifically him, rather than the correctness of the decision to support his candidacy. Suddenly, Vigo appeared in the Magistrate. He got in there through Vitalik's protection, and he won over the High one by promising to run a tournament with a larger prize pool. I will not say what else he used to win Gorbik over, or why Vigo, without running a single tournament and having only one scandalous tournament behind him, stayed in the Magistrate for another year after it ended. Immediately after the opening of the tournament, both I and Gorbik received warnings that the tournament would be fake, would lower the Portal's authority in the heroes' world, and the money simply wouldn't be paid. I forwarded these messages to the High one, but... And then it actually started... I think many remember what was going on there. Disgusting judging, deleting posts, banning players. Moreover, this happened in most cases in games where either Vigo himself or Vitalik participated... ............... ...And here I am shocked for the third time... Just at the moment when the prize winners of that ill-fated tournament start posting on Bay and our Portal about receiving their prizes, Gorbik writes to me. Oleg, so and so, Vitalik contacted me and says that he also didn't receive his 200 dollar prize from Vigo. And he writes, I need them paid too. I was simply in shock.
Is this a fake?
4) Please explain how, with a skill of 4 out of 10 (your own estimate is close to reality), you manage to beat top players 2-0 in tournaments?
5) Regarding the game with Sevensan.
1. Why did you go without control blindly and arrive turn by turn 2. Why didn't you take a 4 all shield (since an obviously strong player would have done so rather than running into the dark without control) 3. Why did you veer off the road (and very quickly, by only 1 turn!) even though no flag was visible from the road!!! or do you have +500 microscopes on your eyes? 4. You showed a very strong game in the first week. With your skill (4), how did you manage to overperform and enter the second week with 18 archangels? 5. You've already been asked about going into the Dragon Utopia blindly — there is no answer. "Got lucky," uh-huh.
Answer clearly. Not "I got lucky" etc.
I'm not asking about Loser, Vigoboy, or reports being written by another person in your name; everyone has drawn their own conclusions there.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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RiMpel2
So, does that mean there's no need to argue your viewpoints? Then why, in reality, do people not understand why you're picking on the 1000-point limit? It's an interesting position.
Vigo wants to register for the tournament, and I'm curious about who I'll be playing with in the same tournament if he's given that opportunity. First, people played for him, then they gave him advice, and then he didn't fulfill his obligations. Even a simple "Yes, I was wrong" would portray him in a good light, but instead, we're playing cat and mouse. What's the point?
Мой ник Heroes, и никто не вынесет меня Скажу я вам, мои друзья. Я некромант, я маг великий, и армия моя Непобедимая, огромная!
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1. All prizes have been paid out! With a delay (my fault), but everyone has received them. Huge thanks for the support of the Leading Heroes of Might and Magic in that event!!! 2. Yes, that happened. In several seasonal or tournament games, experienced players made a few moves for me while I was absent, with my consent. 3. There is no fake. (damn, I don't even know what that word means)), these posts were real. But they were all at the same time, after which we all came to a mutual understanding. 4. I already explained about the skill. 5. Regarding playing with Seven...
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
2) "Quote: Next question: Has it ever happened that someone played for you in Heroes 3 tournaments - that is, played the game for you, with your consent?
Yes, it happened. One of my friends could make a few moves while I was away and didn't have time to return and play. This was with my consent.
Who was it? Niki.
I'm answering. I personally saw the player named Wicc make a move instead of Vigo on February 26, 2011, in the game wowa (red, castle, valeska) def vigo (blue, rampart, kyrre) @ 8mm6, sod, 126. numOne
5) Regarding the game with Sevansan.
1. Why did you go without scouting randomly and move turn by turn? 2. Why didn't you take the Shield of the All (even though, as an obviously strong player, you would have done so instead of running into the darkness without scouting)? 3. Why did you deviate from the road (and very quickly, and only for 1 turn!), even though the flag was not visible from the road!!! Or do you have a microscope with +500 zoom on your eyes? 4. You showed a very strong game in the first week. How, with your skill (4), did you manage to surpass yourself and come in second with 18 archers? 5. You've already been asked about sending your Utopia into the darkness - there's no answer. You were just lucky, right.
Answer clearly. And not with "I was lucky" and so on.
I'm answering. When they taught us how to play Heroes in the nineties, among the main postulates were: -) explore the darkness. Always reveal the darkness! -) if you don't know what to build, build a well.
Орден Феникса – харизматический :) лидер
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Please tell me, coordinators, is it possible to send Kilgor to hell? I'm getting tired of him.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
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Let's have a poll to gauge the opinion of the resource's users! Those who want to can click the button according to their opinion! If the majority of users vote negatively, I wish everyone good luck, moral support, mutual understanding, and love for our favorite game! Special thanks to the creator of the resource and everyone who has helped and continues to help him! If the majority of responses are positive, I ask that you publicly apologize for the unfounded accusations and restore my status as a user of this resource with all the rights and privileges of a user!
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
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Dear participants, there's some chaos happening in this thread. Shouting and arguing won't get us anywhere. To have a constructive dialogue in this thread, only posts from Vigo and the Arbitration Committee members should be allowed. All further posts from other participants will be deleted without exception.
Regarding the matter at hand, all this discussion spanning 17 pages can actually be resolved in 2 seconds. The Arbitration Committee's accusation is that Vigo himself plays very poorly and performs inconsistently in tournaments. How can we verify this? It's very simple. CAP proposed a solution:Captain
Vigo, from now on, only play with password-protected save files and try to stream and show how you play. Although people will still suspect your "friend." Therefore, attend Eric's gathering in Moscow and demonstrate your skill. Although, in my opinion, this is pointless; you never seemed to be aiming for the top spots anyway.
And I would suggest the following. During the tournament at the club, Vigo is given one of the save files that is being questioned. He sits down and plays it up to level 117. Based on the results of level 117, it will be clear whether Vigo's skill level matches what was shown online. The task is not to replicate the exact setup, but to test his gameplay. I think everyone will agree that if he places angels in his castle online, but places knights in his fortress at the club, it cannot be attributed to any other factors.
Vitya, do you agree to this? If you prove yourself, I will personally come to Moscow and shake your hand!
Dear participants, there's some chaos happening in this thread. Shouting and arguing won't achieve anything. For a dialogue to take place in this thread, only posts from Vigo and members of the AK should be allowed. All further posts from other participants will be deleted without exception.
Regarding the matter at hand, all this discussion spanning 17 pages can actually be resolved in 2 seconds. The accusation against the AK is that Vigo himself plays very poorly, and in tournaments, he displays a style of play that is not typical for him. How can this be verified? Very simply. CAP suggested a solution:
And I would suggest the following. During a tournament at the club, Vigo is given one of the save files that is being questioned. He sits down and plays it up to level 117. Based on the results of level 117, it will be clear whether Vigo's level corresponds to what was shown online. The task is not to replicate the setup, but to check his skill level. I think everyone will agree that if he uses Angels in his castle online, but uses Knights in his fortress at the club, this cannot be attributed to any factors.
Vitya, do you agree to this? If you prove yourself, I will personally come to Moscow and shake your hand!
Yes, I'm up for anything except fasting! )) I just don't understand what this will prove. Besides, I go to meetups and tournaments to relax and cheer for the other players. I don't have any goals to achieve anything in Heroes; haven't you understood that yet? I don't care about the technical aspects; I don't understand them and I never read damage charts or anything else; I don't need it! I just play however and whenever I want! But out of respect for you, while our monsters are tearing each other apart, we will definitely play a game! Or, you can load whatever you want. I really don't care about all this; I'm just annoyed that I'm being accused of something I didn't do ((( In short, Castet, this is just talk! We'll see each other at the Tournaments and talk!
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Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!! Но!... Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...
But out of respect for you, while our monsters are tearing each other apart, we will definitely play a game with you! Or you can just load whatever you want!
Great. It won't take you much time. But it will put everything in its place. Besides, we don't have long to wait. Vigo
Anyway, "Castet" is just a side issue! We'll see each other at the Tournament and talk!
We'll only see each other at the CIS Championship. In any case, I'll be passing through Moscow, so we'll definitely meet.
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Why are messages being deleted?
Read above! Messages are deleted to avoid arguments and bullying, so Vigo can answer questions asked by members of the Tournament Committee.