Posts from To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question.

So why can't he even give a brief answer? Is he unable to? And what's the big deal: I've already written and I'll repeat: "let the forum know that he's a scammer." If you promised to pay, then pay, I don't believe that it was impossible to resolve the issue with the prizes in a few years.

Shut your mouth with such accusations! It's a small world after all....
Who hasn't received prizes from my tournament??? With a delay, but everyone received them!
If anyone says they haven't, let them come forward!!!! Let them say that they didn't receive the prizes they deserved!
And my relationship with the Supreme HP and with the people who helped in resolving this issue - THESE ARE MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS!!

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I didn't understand the question. What should I explain? Why, after playing Heroes for over 10 years and learning from skilled players, did I win against several strong players?
Or that I rate my skill (although I don't understand how it's even possible to evaluate oneself) as a 4, knowing and seeing how real pros play?
Or that I'll have a glass of vodka and play with beginners, not worrying about every move, what to cast, and how to position in battle, and play however I want for fun?
Or that I played tournament games or games with experienced and interesting opponents several times a month, tried hard, thought through every move, and sometimes won?
What should I answer?

Here's an excerpt from my post, in case you didn't understand anything in it:

Your tournament stats show an 80% win rate, and in 2008-2009, you had no losses there, only wins - even the best players don't have that.

Please explain how, with a skill level of 4 out of 10 (your assessment is close to reality), you manage to beat top players 2-0 in tournaments?

So, after all these years of the forum's existence, you just happened to stumble upon this topic today and decided to randomly register and ask some questions? ))))))))))))

Someone in Tvarina's stream yesterday posted a link in the chat, and I decided to take a look.

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The task is to identify the author of this text :)

Moderators with access to users' IP addresses, please don't worry...

No, no "Vitalik" is writing for me, I'm really just "nobody" (=

I read it. And even watched it. I came to the conclusion that it's all "ravings of a madman." It seems like they just want to get Vigo removed from the forum. By any means necessary. That's why they brought up all the old suspicions, mistakes, and even brought psychology into it...

No one is planning to remove Vigo from the forum. And we don't even have that kind of authority. Our goal is to give the tournament organizers an official reason to refuse his participation in the tournaments.
If you read the thread, as you say, you should have read that there were cases when all the players in the tournament refused to play against him. Just like that? Because they didn't like this "pleasant" person?

I read it, and even watched it. I came to the conclusion that it's all "ravings of a madman." It seems like Vigo is simply being targeted for removal from the forum, using every possible and impossible method. That's why they brought up all the old suspicions, mistakes, and even psychology...

I don't believe it. And here's why: 3 or 4 people, including myself, wrote that proving maphacking is very difficult, that you first need to study the person, study their style, study a lot of save files, and based on your experience, make a subjective decision, and if all members of the AC agree on this decision, then it's 99.9% maphacking. (more precisely, even an analysis of the DPK doesn't guarantee it). Studying a person and their style is partly about creating a psychological profile.

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I don't believe it. And here is why: 3 or 4 people, including myself, wrote that maphacking is very difficult to prove, that you first need to study the person, study their style, study a bunch of saves, and based on your experience make a subjective decision; if this decision coincides for all members of the AC, then it's 99.9% maphacking. (To be more precise, even an expert analysis of the same-game replay doesn't provide proof, for that matter). Studying a person and their style is partly creating a psychological profile.

Yes. A psychological profile is what we start with in any discussion regarding suspicions of maphacking. The fact that a person went into the fog 1 time and found the Dragon Utopia there means nothing if they are otherwise clean and there were no complaints against them. Here, however, there is a whole bouquet of red flags. Only the blind would fail to notice this.

Answer the questions, Vigo. You ask for them yourself, and then you just sit around doing nothing.

1. Vigo, you have a very "train-like" (80-100%) win percentage in Tournaments; how do you explain that? Did Vitalik play as you in official tournament games with your consent for the entire match? If he did, then with whom? I don't think you suffer from sclerosis and will take the time to write back to us.
2. Who played a game with me on Jebus Cross? Who was this person? Specifically.
3. A number of questions regarding that game (the small one)
We saved on YOUR TURN = you left without warning... I sat and waited while you were hanging in battle, even though I needed to leave = 0 respect for me. Then I got tired and left. You wrote the following to me:

Vigo (18:40:41 21/10/2012)
maybe let's finish it already? and then we can play another one with fresh strength later?

335665133-1@qip.ru (18:52:45 21/10/2012)
ok

335665133-1@qip.ru (18:52:48 21/10/2012)
let's try

335665133-1@qip.ru (19:23:33 21/10/2012)
you here?

Vigo (19:26:50 21/10/2012)
in battle, got distracted((

335665133-1@qip.ru (19:31:54 21/10/2012)
well

335665133-1@qip.ru (19:33:34 21/10/2012)
anyway

335665133-1@qip.ru (19:33:37 21/10/2012)
it'll be my save

335665133-1@qip.ru (19:33:46 21/10/2012)
I'm leaving. we'll finish tomorrow

335665133-1@qip.ru (19:33:48 21/10/2012)
or whenever

Vigo (19:39:02 21/10/2012)
ok, sorry, I've got troubles here, we'll be in touch

Immediately after the save, you start finishing your moves and oh miracle, you find a hero on the other end of the map:

335665133-1@qip.ru (17:32:40 25/10/2012)
ready to continue?

Vigo (17:33:36 25/10/2012)
not yet, I can play calmly from around eight o'clock, I'll definitely hit you up, aiming for 8 to 9 pm to continue

335665133-1@qip.ru (17:33:47 25/10/2012)
agreed

335665133-1@qip.ru (17:33:55 25/10/2012)
already played both with Satyr

Vigo (17:34:02 25/10/2012)
nice one!

335665133-1@qip.ru (20:02:05 25/10/2012)
20 00

Vigo (20:02:25 25/10/2012)
6 minutes early ))))

335665133-1@qip.ru (20:02:31 25/10/2012)
ok waiting! )

Vigo (20:02:50 25/10/2012)
yes I remember everything, just waiting for the last courier, I'll calculate everything and we'll start

Vigo (20:03:04 25/10/2012)
I told you from 8 to 9 ))

335665133-1@qip.ru (20:30:30 25/10/2012)
hey

335665133-1@qip.ru (20:30:33 25/10/2012)
20 30

Vigo (20:31:03 25/10/2012)
well go do something for a bit, the person is almost here

Vigo (20:47:55 25/10/2012)
arrived, 15-20 minutes and we'll start

Vigo (21:04:38 25/10/2012)
I think I'm loading?

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:04:52 25/10/2012)
no you bailed, my save

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:05:17 25/10/2012)
come in

Vigo (21:06:03 25/10/2012)
but I saved

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:06:24 25/10/2012)
when?

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:06:35 25/10/2012)
make a move in my presence so I can see it

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:07:00 25/10/2012)
I need to be aware of what's happening, not through a move replay

Vigo (21:07:00 25/10/2012)
at the start of the turn, finished off and saved—didn't attack anyone without you

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:07:08 25/10/2012)
ok load it

Vigo (21:08:40 25/10/2012)
here

Vigo (21:14:47 25/10/2012)
don't be angry and don't scream at home!

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:16:29 25/10/2012)
I will write about your strange move

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:16:33 25/10/2012)
move

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:16:57 25/10/2012)
interesting how you found my hero without having air views or anything else

Vigo (21:16:57 25/10/2012)
yeah write it, you're wrong!

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:17:00 25/10/2012)
just by chance

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:17:03 25/10/2012)
clever boy.

Vigo (21:17:22 25/10/2012)
make a move for me, the flag is visible

Vigo (21:17:27 25/10/2012)
I tried my best

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:17:58 25/10/2012)
logical of course to take a shield +4 all

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:18:02 25/10/2012)
especially since you don't have it

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:18:04 25/10/2012)
but no way

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:18:08 25/10/2012)
the moner can reach the Castle

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:18:18 25/10/2012)
what's there to say

Vigo (21:18:46 25/10/2012)
stats don't play a role here anymore, you took my main Castle, I need to cut you off from the territories somehow

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:19:16 25/10/2012)
there was no f*cking flag there

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:19:20 25/10/2012)
you turned off the road

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:19:23 25/10/2012)
completely unfounded

Vigo (21:19:27 25/10/2012)
I thought about taking it on the seventh day, you're distracting me from the main thing, the unexplored part at the bottom

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:19:31 25/10/2012)
nothing is visible from the road, what are you trying to tell me

Vigo (21:19:52 25/10/2012)
f*ck, just write on the forum. are you stupid, your flag is visible there

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:20:03 25/10/2012)
you turned off the road

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:20:05 25/10/2012)
and saw it

Vigo (21:20:06 25/10/2012)
look at the save!!!

Vigo (21:20:12 25/10/2012)
it's visible on the road

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:20:17 25/10/2012)
no

Vigo (21:20:23 25/10/2012)
why the f*ck turn off if it's not visible

Vigo (21:20:30 25/10/2012)
flailing in the dark

Vigo (21:21:10 25/10/2012)
and generally I'll only play with you using a password-protected mod, otherwise you just talk sh*t

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:21:36 25/10/2012)
well it's not me who finds a hero god knows where

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:21:39 25/10/2012)
blindly

335665133-1@qip.ru (21:21:44 25/10/2012)
thanks for the game

Vigo (21:22:02 25/10/2012)
of course, any luck can be sh*tted on, I tried to play—and you're like this

So here are my questions about that match

1. why did you go without control blindly and reached it move by move
2. Why didn't you take the shield 4 all (since an obviously strong player would have done so rather than running into the dark without control)
3. Why did you turn off the road (and very quickly, for only 1 move!) even though the flag was not visible from the road!!! or do you have a +500 microscope on your eyes?
4. You showed a very strong game in the first week. With your skill (4), how did you manage to overachieve by entering the second week with 18 archs?
5. You've already been asked about the Dragon Utopia folder in the dark, - no answer. Lucky, uh-huh.

numOne, why are you deleting posts about the payment issue, if you are the one who raised this question and believe it is relevant? Are you cutting off the defense at the root? People are using this as an active argument to support the accusations.

Answer the questions, Vigo. You ask them yourself and then sit around doing nothing.

Ask a specific question! My eyes are already getting tired from all the posts.

Everything is transparent and clear in AK's posts.

There, "clear" and "transparent" are indirect evidence:

Thus, one can accuse anyone they dislike by appealing to the fact that there is no 100% proof of save file tampering, therefore there is no need to investigate them. But suspicions exist, which means he may be guilty (because he could have done it) - it is difficult to argue with this, but how does the fact that a person has the opportunity to commit a crime imply that he actually committed it?

As for replacing one player with another, the evidence is even more indirect, but it is difficult to deny their logic, and this must be acknowledged.
If a person wins against top players in tournaments, then their performance in the season should not differ significantly, although this is also a debatable point, since a person may have a different attitude towards tournament and season games.

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As proof of Pit's substitution for LM, he refers, for example, to a linguistic analysis of the texts of the reports! But who conducted this analysis? Pit himself?

In order to accept this argument, I personally need a photograph or the official document of the conclusion - from a professional linguist. Is there such a photograph?

Someone in the chat during Tvarina's stream yesterday posted a link, and I decided to check it out.

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No, no "Vitalik" is writing for me; I'm really "nobody" here.

Samurai? :smile10:

Yes, I think everything is clear here. There are no specific questions from the prosecution. Why are you all harassing him? It's obvious he's not guilty. They just want to discredit him.

Samurai? :smile10:

Yura, please don't talk nonsense. If you feel like it, I'll reply to the topic from my own account.

"Dmitry Medvedev: Do you think that if a person is publicly shamed on television, they should be immediately imprisoned?" "Dmitry Medvedev: In reality, I would like to bring everyone back within the legal framework. I believe that the presumption of innocence has not been abolished." "Dmitry Medvedev: An investigation is underway; let it sort things out and establish the objective truth in the case. Ultimately, the decision or the final determination of who is guilty and who is not guilty is made not by the investigation, as is well known, but by the court. The investigation is only one side in the process. There is also the defense. Therefore, the prosecution and the defense must present their arguments. ...all of this must be determined by the investigation, carefully analyzed, and presented to the court, both with regard to all the individuals involved in the case who are currently being investigated, and with regard to other individuals. Until this is done, he and other individuals are presumed innocent; I would ask that this not be forgotten." Transcript of an interview with Dmitry Medvedev December 7, 2012, 13:30 "Rossiyskaya Gazeta" - www.rg.ru