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#192
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...trying to compile your psychological profile, to understand what actions you are capable of, how justified our "circumstantial" evidence will look...
Guys, go play "Mafia". You'd be invaluable there.
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Next question: Has it ever happened that someone played for you in Heroes 3 tournaments – actually played the game for you, with your consent?
Yes, it has. Sometimes, a friend would play a few turns for me while I was away and didn't have time to return and play myself. This was done with my consent.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
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How can you explain the following:

When assessing your own skill:
numOne: How do you rate your skill on a scale of 1 to 10?
Vigo: ...my knowledge and skills are probably worth a solid 4.

We see the following picture regarding Tournaments:
Total for summer 08 - spring 09
10 games in Tournaments
2 losses to Vitalik on Jebus
2 draws - Javdet and Erdem in Best
6 wins (Kash in team and Best, Mizrael (Best), Pit (Jebus), Alone, and Kebazavr - team)

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scorp 21.07.2008 Summer Interportal HP vs HV
WISTRIT 16.10.2008 Tournament "Clans Wars: on-line (Autumn 2008)"
Mizrael 22.11.2008 Tournament "Clans Wars: on-line (Autumn 2008)"
vbn 30.11.2008 Tournament "Clans Wars: on-line (Autumn 2008)"
Smoke_mk 08.12.2008 Tournament "Clans Wars: on-line (Autumn 2008)"
Dudge 08.12.2008 Tournament "Clans Wars: on-line (Autumn 2008)"
But4er 13.01.2009 Tournament Jebus Cross
Dreamcatcher 24.02.2009 Tournament Jebus Cross
Kash 11.04.2009 Team Tournament: Spring 2009
Mizrael 12.04.2009 Tournament Best of HeroesWorld
Pit for LM 16.04.2009 Tournament Jebus Cross
Alone 18.04.2009 Team Tournament: Spring 2009
Dirty_Plaeyr - Clan War: Summer 2009

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Victory 2-0 over Deep Mike

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and a bunch more wins against strong players in Tournaments.

Your tournament statistics show an 80% win rate, and in 2008-2009, you have no losses, only wins - even the veterans don't have that.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Alright, let's draw some conclusions: 1) Unban Vigo and let him play in a mod with password-protected saves. 2) Enter the password only when Vitalik turns away (you can switch later). 3) Add all participants in the discussion to the Arbitration Committee (AK), otherwise, the discussion won't work. 4) I ask the moderators to pay attention to Captain. He is a person who always knows what he is talking about, expresses his opinion on the topic, and sees who is right and who is wrong. We need to boost his morale. 5) Organize a fundraising campaign on the forum and return $1000, restoring Vigo's good name on the portal.
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There was a delay in paying out the cash prizes – I admit it.

So, did you pay out the prizes?
That is, the messages:
Message from Sir Gorbik
As it turned out, the obligations for this Tournament have not yet been fulfilled. Well, consider me personally scammed out of 1000 USD. Thank you to the team members who will help resolve this issue.
Sir Vigo's profile has been blocked. Write to me, and I will urgently pay out the prizes.
Sorry for the delay.
I hope for your understanding.

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Message from Catch
...Vitalik ran the Tournaments, Lady Asha managed the rankings and rules...
But it wasn't that simple. After just a couple of months, I started to doubt Vitalik. Specifically him, and not the correctness of the decision to support his candidacy. Suddenly, Vigo appeared in the Magistrate. He got the job there through Vitalik's connections, and he also gained favor with the Supreme by promising to run a Tournament with a large prize pool. I won't say what else he did to gain Gorbik's favor, and why Vigo, without running a single Tournament and having only one scandalous Tournament behind him, stayed in the Magistrate for another year after it ended. Immediately after the Tournament was announced, both I and Gorbik received warnings that the Tournament would be a sham, would damage the Portal's reputation in the Heroes community, and the money simply wouldn't be paid out. I forwarded these messages to the Supreme, but... And then it really started... I think many people remember what was going on. Terrible judging, posts being deleted, players being banned. And this happened, in most cases, in matches involving either Vigo himself or Vitalik...
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...And then, for the third time, I was shocked... Just when the winners of that ill-fated Tournament started posting on Bay and on our Portal that they had received the prizes, Gorbik wrote to me. Oleg, Vitalik contacted me and said that he also didn't receive his prize money of 200 dollars from Vigo. And he writes that I also need to pay him. I was simply in shock.


Is this fake?
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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GoedenDag
Guys, go play "Mafia." You'll have a great time.
I have a very negative attitude towards people who don't even bother to read the topic but still try to say something just for the sake of saying it. Read the topic carefully, look at the links. And then answer the question yourself: why is a psychological profile being created.
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Okay, it's time to draw conclusions:

1) Unban Vigo and let him play in a mod with password-protected saves,
2) enter the password only when Vitalik turns away (you can switch later),
3) include all participants in the discussion in the AK (Administrative Council), otherwise the discussion won't work.
4) I ask the moderators to pay attention to the Captain. This is a person who always knows what he's talking about,
expresses his opinion on the topic, sees who is wrong and who is guilty. We need to boost his morale.
5) Let's organize a fundraiser on the forum and return $1000, restoring Vigo's good name on the portal.

1) This could have been done if Vigo had discussed all this in private with the AK, and not brought it to the forum. Now it's a matter of principle.
4) Yes, we need to cheer up the Captain.
5) I would rephrase it a bit. If Vigo wants to prove that he is a good person and sincerely wants to clear his name (of course, he understands that he has made mistakes), then he needs to sponsor a tournament with good prizes and hold it here (naturally, not Vigo will organize it). Then, I think, as an exception, the AK can consider the issue of his unban (and only if ALL members of the AK vote "yes").
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Vigo, as someone who is completely unaware of what's going on and is getting information from this thread, I've formed a rather negative impression of you. As a regular and unremarkable member of the forum, can I ask you to provide a rebuttal to the arguments of the Arbitration Committee (AK) and your defense in an organized manner, without unnecessary emotions? I don't believe that a person over 30 is incapable of focusing for 20 minutes and clearly outlining their position. Reading posts in the style of "I'm an innocent fairy, why don't you like me? :'((" isn't very constructive, especially when your fate on this portal is being decided (if I understand correctly).
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How can you explain the following:

When assessing your own skill:
numOne: How do you rate your skill on a scale of 1 to 10?

We see the following picture in tournaments:
Total for summer 08 - spring 09
10 games in tournaments
2 losses to Vitalik on Jebus
2 draws - Javdet and Erdem in Best
6 wins (Kash in team and Best, Mizrael (Best), Pit (Jebus), Alone and Kebazavr - team)

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scorp 21.07.2008 Summer Interportal HP vs HV
WISTRIT 16.10.2008 Tournament "Wars of Clans: online (Autumn 2008)"
Mizrael 22.11.2008 Tournament "Wars of Clans: online (Autumn 2008)"
vbn 30.11.2008 Tournament "Wars of Clans: online (Autumn 2008)"
Smoke_mk 08.12.2008 Tournament "Wars of Clans: online (Autumn 2008)"
Dudge 08.12.2008 Tournament "Wars of Clans: online (Autumn 2008)"
But4er 13.01.2009 Tournament Jebus Cross
Dreamcatcher 24.02.2009 Tournament Jebus Cross
Kash 11.04.2009 Team tournament: spring 2009
Mizrael 12.04.2009 Tournament Best of HeroesWorld
Pit for LM 16.04.2009 Tournament Jebus Cross
Alone 18.04.2009 Team tournament: spring 2009
Dirty_Plaeyr - Clan War: summer 2009

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Victory 2-0 over Deep Mike

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and many more victories over strong players in tournaments.

Your tournament statistics show an 80% win rate, and in 2008-2009 you had no losses, only wins - even the pros don't have that.
I don't understand the question. What should I explain? Why, after playing Heroes for over 10 years and learning from skilled players, did I win against several strong players?
Or why I rate my skill (although I don't understand how it's even possible to rate oneself) at a 4, knowing and seeing how real pros play?
Or that I drink a glass of vodka and play with beginners, not worrying about every move, what to cast, and how to position in battle, and play however I want for fun?
Or that I played tournament games or games with experienced and interesting opponents several times a month, tried hard, thought through every move, and sometimes won?
What should I answer?
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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And why do you care whether Vigo paid out the prizes or not? There are many unforeseen circumstances that can happen in life. A person's financial capabilities should not be a reason for accusations. Besides, this doesn't apply to the mapmaker, even from the perspective of your psychological profile. It only speaks to his organizational skills, but not to his ability to play. If a person didn't foresee life's difficulties or the inability to pay, it doesn't mean he's stealing milk from a store, just as it doesn't mean he's not acting appropriately in every situation. And now, suddenly, everyone's become so smart.
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LLIu3OXPEHHuK
Vigo, as someone who is completely unaware of what’s going on and gets information from this thread, I haven’t formed the best impression of you.
Can I (as a completely ordinary and anonymous member of the forum) ask you to provide a refutation of AK’s arguments and your defense in an organized manner, without unnecessary emotions? I don’t believe that a person over 30 is incapable of focusing for 20 minutes and clearly stating their position.
Reading posts in the style of “I’m an innocent fairy, why don’t you like me? :'(” is not very constructive, especially when your fate on this portal is being decided (if I understand correctly).
So, after years of Heroes of Might and Magic’s existence, you just happened to stumble upon this thread today and decided to randomly register and clarify some questions? ))))))))))))
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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LLIu3OXPEHHuK
Vigo, as someone who is completely unaware of what’s going on and gets information from this thread, I haven’t formed the best impression of you.
As a regular and unremarkable member of the forum, can I ask you to provide a rebuttal to AK’s arguments and your defense in an organized manner, without unnecessary emotions? I don’t believe that a person over 30 is incapable of focusing for 20 minutes and clearly outlining their position.
Reading posts in the style of “I’m an innocent fairy, why don’t you like me? :'(” isn’t very constructive, especially when your fate on this portal is being decided (if I understand correctly).
The task is to identify the author of this text. :)

Moderators with access to user IP addresses, please don’t worry...
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RiMpel2
Why do you care whether Vigo paid out the prizes or not? There are many unforeseen circumstances that can happen in life. A person's financial capabilities should not be a reason for accusation. Besides, this doesn't apply to the mapmaker, even from your psychological perspective. It only speaks to his organizational skills, but not to his ability to play. If a person didn't foresee life's difficulties or the inability to pay, it doesn't mean he's stealing milk from a store, just as it doesn't mean he's not acting correctly in everything. And now, all of a sudden, everyone's become so smart.
So why can't he answer, even briefly? Is he unable to? And why does it matter: I've already written and will repeat, "let the forum know that he's a scammer." If you promised to pay, then pay. I don't believe that it was impossible to resolve the issue with the prizes in a few years.
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Next.
Vigoboy.
As you put it, “the guy really loves Heroes,” so much that he is ready to win at any cost (see how he did it with someone’s help). And when the judges don't acknowledge his victory over Cheban in a controversial match, does he disappear even before waiting for the judge's decision?

Note: your son, as you say. Doesn't he leave an unpleasant impression on you?

Loser

Your employee, as you say. A documented fact of map hacking. But strangely enough, he did it very smoothly and skillfully – he hacked the map, although he appeared out of nowhere and played only briefly... Your email was revealed during the stream - omg. But your explanation here is "he used your corporate mailbox, the guy is good, and besides, he died":smile21: :smile21: :smile21:...

Further.

About the fact that some reports are not written by you.
Your explanation is "Vitalik wrote them under your dictation." :smile11: :smile11: :smile11:

Listen, I don't know what else I need to ask you. Everything is clear as day; there's no need to wipe away the dust.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Kilgor
I have a very negative attitude towards people who haven't even bothered to read the topic but are trying to say something just for the sake of saying it. Read the topic carefully, look at the links. And then answer the question yourself: why are they creating a psychological profile.

I read it. And even looked at it. I came to the conclusion that it's all "ravings of a madman." It seems like Vigo just wants to be removed from the forum. By any means necessary. That's why they brought up all the old suspicions, mistakes, and brought in psychology...
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Haha, I once played against Britva and thought he was a really good player, but it turns out he's just watching the map...
P.S. And I also played against Vigo in one of my first online games, back when I was using a completely different nickname. Unfortunately, I can't say much about that game, as I was still a newbie.

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