Skip to content

Posts from To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question.

Tournament Committee Closed Topic
5.0 (3 ratings)
Closed
Your opinion:
59 voters
Single choice Public votes Closed 2012-12-18
This poll is closed.
Vigo deserves to be on the Blacklist
81.4% 48 votes
Vigo was unfairly added to the Blacklist and should be removed from it
18.6% 11 votes
In reply to Dima Surmay
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Dima Surmay
If Vigo was banned, then the person who played for him should have been banned too… has this been done?

In Blacklist, vitalic. And he has been banned for a long time.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
In reply to Vigo
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Vigo
I might have been on a business trip; Vitalik wrote down what I said from memory, and he might have added something of his own, as he needed to provide a report, and time was running out, and I wouldn't have been near a computer anytime soon. Vitalik is my friend; I asked him, and he did it. But that doesn't mean he's playing games for me!

Keep it coming!:smile52: I haven't laughed this hard in a long time; I almost dropped my laptop!:D Is Vitalik your personal secretary?:rolleyes:
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
_________________
Attachments 1
1 file attached • Total size: 20.9 KB
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
In reply to КостяN
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
KostyaN
Keep it coming!:smile52: I haven't laughed this hard in a long time, I almost dropped my laptop!:D Is Vitalik your personal secretary?:rolleyes:
Sometimes, yes. When I'm not around, he's the secretary; when he's not around, I take his place. What's the problem? Are you jealous? ))
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

In reply to Vigo
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Vigo
Sometimes, yes, when I'm not around, he's the secretary, and when he's not around, I cover for him. What's the problem? Are you jealous? ))))
If Pit releases more series for LM, then Vigo and K should just go and shoot themselves, although I doubt the word "shame" means much to them. You shouldn't have created this thread, you probably didn't expect this kind of outcome. You're talking about a vote... maybe you should just disappear and that's it, where else can you go?!
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Let's not mix apples and oranges. I personally saw Vigoboy, and at least 10 other people saw him too, but that's not the point right now. Vigo was specifically accused of two things: that other people played instead of him and of maphacking. As for the maphacking, the arguments presented so far are not very convincing. To be more precise, it's just a suspicion, which is definitely not enough for a verdict, considering the presumption of innocence. The other issue is more delicate. Here's how it goes: a person is playing, streaming, and chatting. And in the chat, they are told, "What if...?" Has this happened? Yes, it happens all the time, at least in every third game. What is this? A hint? Well, yes, it's a hint. But as soon as streaming appeared, these hints appeared too. The situation is similar here. Yes, sometimes, perhaps, someone near Vigo was thinking out loud. Sometimes, and it's not even certain that it actually happened (and in streams, hints pour in from the chat like water from a horn of plenty). So what? Should we ban this guy for that? Who genuinely loves the game, for whom this is not just a hobby for a couple of years, but a real passion? Give him a probationary period, don't count his games towards the ranking, just observe. You could ask him to stop streaming, why immediately resort to a harsh ban? As for Vitalik, you just need to remove that label, and that's it. No one needs it. It seems like this was discussed, and it seems like they came to a consensus. He's not guilty, and the statute of limitations hasn't been repealed.

Орден Фениксахаризматический :) лидер
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
If Vigo were a girl, he wouldn't just be forgiven immediately, but they'd also invite him for tea, yeah :rolleyes:
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
What kind of circus is this? Where is it written, and who said that no one can help a player in the game? Have you played too much, or not enough? It doesn't seem like it at all...
In Vigo's place, I would acknowledge the repeated assistance (in any legitimate form, without maphacks) from friends and demand that official complaints be filed regarding the maphack – and in the event that none are provided, an official apology and punishment for those responsible in the specific situation!
P.S. Every streamer receives dozens of tips – as a lawyer, I don't see the difference – who can "suggest" better – the infamous Vitalik, sitting next to Vigo, or a dozen fans...in any case, it's one of the forms of prompting – with equal responsibility...which doesn't exist and cannot exist...what is not prohibited is permitted...come down to earth!
In reply to Leolopus
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Leolopus
If Pit releases more installments for Legends of Might and Magic, then Vigo and Co. should just go and shoot themselves, although I doubt the word "shame" means much to them. You shouldn't have started this thread, you probably didn't expect such a turn of events. You talk about voting... maybe you should just disappear and that's it, where else can you go?!

I created this thread deliberately and I'm reading everything with amusement! )))

And are you perhaps a powerful and influential player in Heroes 3 online? Or in other versions? Or have you done a lot for Heroes or for any of the Heroes-related resources?
Forgive me for my tactlessness and ignorance, I just haven't heard anything about you and haven't seen anything (at least in this section about Heroes 3).
Won't you enlighten us about who you are, since you are participating so specifically and deliberately in this discussion?
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

In reply to Albert@s
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Albert@s

In Vigo's place, I would acknowledge the repeated assistance (in any legitimate form, without maphacks).
Sounds like advice from a lawyer :)
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
In reply to Albert@s
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Albert@s
What kind of circus is this? Where is it written, and who said that no one can help the player in the game? Have you played too much, or not enough? It doesn't seem like either...
In Vego's place, I would acknowledge the repeated assistance (in any legitimate form, without map hacks) from friends and demand the presentation of official claims regarding map hacking. If these are not provided, I would demand an official apology and punishment for those responsible in the specific situation!
P.S. Every streamer receives dozens of tips – as a lawyer, I don't see the difference – who can "suggest" better – the infamous Vitalik, sitting next to Vego, or a dozen fans... in any case, this is one of the forms of advice, with the same responsibility... which doesn't exist and cannot exist... what is not prohibited is permitted... come down from the clouds to earth!
I have long acknowledged this and never hidden the fact that I was sometimes helped by more experienced players!!!
One of the best players in the world sat next to me and advised me on what and how, how he would do it, and what to do first, etc. Accordingly, I consider, check myself, do as he says (because he is a master!), remember for the future, and in other games, I do as I was taught. And now, does that mean he was playing for me?!
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

In reply to Vigo
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Vigo
Are you perhaps a powerful and influential player in Heroes 3 online? Or in some other versions? Or have you done a lot for Heroes or for some Heroes-related resources?
I apologize for my tactlessness and ignorance; I simply haven't heard anything about you or seen anything (at least in this section about Heroes 3).
Could someone enlighten me as to who you are, given that you are participating so specifically and purposefully in this discussion?
You probably missed one of my previous posts in this thread; I'll have to quote it: "I'm an outsider in Heroes 3. I read the thread. It seems like you've stirred up a hornet's nest; it's clear that the so-called 'hornets' are very defensive and have a strong sense of loyalty. Matching IPs, email addresses, evidence of personal acquaintance and joint games, game statistics and results, evidence of cheating with multiple accounts. In short, everything is clear to me. Losers, Vigo, Querty, and the like are all birds of a feather. On the one hand, I see well-reasoned posts; on the other hand, it's 'I'm not me, and the hut is not mine.' This is, of course, my subjective, but absolutely unbiased opinion as an outside observer who simply decided to delve into the topic."
Further, I read more. In 2008, I organized Tournaments for Heroes 5, including ones with a prize pool of $1000, and if I had failed to ensure the payment of these prizes even once... well, your comrades are calling for you to "understand and forgive." And yet, you stirred up this topic for no reason; too much additional negativity from the past has surfaced; it should have been forgotten long ago, but now some interesting and unpleasant facts for you will be re-read.
__________________
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
In reply to Leolopus
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Leolopus
You probably missed one of my previous posts in this thread, so I'll have to quote it: "I'm an outsider in this Heroes 3 discussion. I read the thread. It seems like you stirred up a hornet's nest, and it's clear that the so-called "hornets" are very defensive and have a strong sense of camaraderie. Matching IPs, email addresses, evidence of personal acquaintance and joint games, game statistics and results, evidence of cheating with multiple accounts. In short, everything is clear to me. Losers, Vigi, Kverty, and the like are all birds of a feather. On the one hand, I see well-reasoned posts, and on the other hand, "it's not me, and it's not my house." This is, of course, my subjective, but absolutely unbiased opinion as an outside observer who simply decided to delve into the topic."
Furthermore, I read more. In 2008, I organized Tournaments for Heroes 5, including ones with a prize pool of $1000, and if I hadn't ensured the payment of these prizes even once... well, you and your comrades are being asked to "understand and forgive." And yet, you stirred up this topic for no reason; too much additional negativity from the past has surfaced, and it should have been forgotten by now, but now some interesting and unpleasant facts for you will be re-read.
__________________
Moreover, if you're just passing through, I don't understand how you can make claims about certain players and K without playing with them, communicating with them, or even understanding the game (Heroes 3 online) at all – and make such sweeping statements about who's who.
And what do your Tournaments, or my Tournaments, or anyone else's Tournaments have to do with this topic, where there are accusations of cheating and maphacking?
I think you should just move on if you were just passing through. Or are you part of the administration and will be making decisions?
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

In reply to Vigo
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
Vigo
That’s why I don’t understand: if you’re just passing through, how can you make claims about certain players and K, without playing with them, communicating with them, or even understanding the game (Heroes 3 online)? And then make such definitive statements about who is who…
And what do your Tournament organizations, or mine, or anyone else’s, have to do with this topic, where someone is being accused of cheating and maphacking?!
I think you should just move on if you were just passing through. Or are you part of the AK and will be making decisions?

1) You are accused of falsifying tournament results, not cheating.
2) You turned to the forum – here is the forum’s opinion.
3) The person explained that he is not from the “Heroes 3” section and expressed his unbiased opinion from the outside.
4) For phrases like “I think you should just move on if you were just passing through,” your highly respected moderator Qwerty should give you violation points. I saw what he gave Samurai points for, and you certainly deserve it by his standards.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
In reply to numOne
User Avatar
13 years ago
Auto-translated
numOne
1) You are accused of falsifying tournament results, not cheating.
2) You contacted the forum – here is the forum's opinion.
3) A person explained that he is not from the "Heroes III" section and expressed his unbiased opinion from the outside.
4) For phrases like "I think you should move on if you have already passed," your highly respected moderator Qwerty should give you violation points. I saw what points he gave to Samurai; you deserve them according to his standards.

"They stirred up a hornet's nest; it's obvious that the so-called "hornets" have something to hide and have a strong system of mutual support. Coincidence of IP addresses, email addresses, facts of personal acquaintance and joint games, statistics and game results, facts of cheating with multiple accounts. In general, everything is clear to me here. Losers, Vigi, Qwerty, and the like, they are all birds of a feather."

Is this not a biased opinion???!!! A "stranger" came in to express his unbiased opinion....
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

Statistics

Welcome our newest member: recijeb