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#47
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Or maybe we shouldn't wait a whole month for it to become obvious that the player Philosopher lacks the time and desire to participate, especially since there are clear facts confirming this in the league tournament. As it is, the rules of our tournament are already somewhat lacking in terms of the number of games, and now there's also the chronic absence of one out of three opponents online.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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#48
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Updated the tournament tables as of 12:00 Moscow time. Checking and noting any errors...
Будьте осторожны со своими желаниями. Иногда они исполняются.
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#49
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I don't even know why they bring philosophers to tournaments; he's a hardcore strategist!
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Vip.rus
I don't even know why they bring a philosopher to tournaments; he's a hardcore player!
As long as he isn't officially banned from participating in tournaments on any of the resources under his nickname, there's no reason not to include him in the tournaments, but this issue is already being resolved on both the League and HW.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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#54
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Rubaty, please calm down: let's not resort to personal attacks...
We will act within the legal framework, according to the tournament rules. If Filya doesn't show up and doesn't play the first-round match, he will be disqualified from the tournament, and the team he was supposed to play against will be awarded a technical victory and 2 points. Noom will replace Filya in the tournament.
We will decide later about banning Filya from future tournaments...
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#55
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A huge request to everyone. Messages from Noom in which he allows himself to be offensive and behaves inappropriately will still be deleted, so there is no point in quoting them and, so to speak, supporting a relapse. P.S. Regarding my position that absolutely everyone should be able to participate in tournaments, it remains unchanged, but this does not mean that a player who constantly registers but doesn't actually play in tournaments cannot be considered for legal warnings and actions. And this is not about personal ambitions and a magic "button," but about simply ensuring that all players have the opportunity to play comfortably.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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#57
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I think I jumped to conclusions a bit too quickly regarding the tournament rules: I realized that we don't have that in the rules. So, the decision will be this: if Philosof doesn't show up and start the game by Tuesday, Noom will join the tournament instead. Although, on the other hand, he is objectively stronger than the others who are in 5th place in other teams, except perhaps alijvit... So that there isn't an imbalance. Maybe then, to balance Noom's entry, starting from the 1st round of the tournament, we could deduct 2 points from the green team? What do you think, esteemed tournament participants?
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#58
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There are issues with playing with $an4es. He said he can only play for 2-3 hours, from 7 PM to 9 PM...10 PM Moscow time. And next week, he can only play in the morning. He didn't show up at the time he himself specified for Friday, and today, after staying up all night, he still hasn't rested and hasn't shown up (I did mention that I can't play on Sunday after 7 PM, but I changed that... I make such exceptions once a quarter for real friends), but he's not online on ICQ either before 4 PM or after 7 PM Moscow time. We discussed the details of the game, the template, and the schedule, and then it just stopped.
Below are excerpts from the conversation:
$an4es 11/24/2012 5:21 PM
Hey! Are we going to play?
leosnow 11/24/2012 5:30 PM
Of course, we will, but later, I've been waiting for you for a day, let's play in a couple of hours
$an4es 11/24/2012 5:30 PM
I'll be available until 10 PM today
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$an4es 11/24/2012 5:36 PM
I won't be available in the first half of the day next week)
$an4es 11/24/2012 5:36 PM
because I can't
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leosnow 11/24/2012 5:37 PM
I've been trying to reach you from 6 PM Moscow time to 5 AM, having fun with Cabralalala
$an4es 11/24/2012 5:37 PM
Were you playing with him?
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leosnow 11/24/2012 5:39 PM
What about tomorrow?
$an4es 11/24/2012 5:39 PM
I'll be available at about the same time
$an4es 11/24/2012 5:39 PM
from 7 PM to 9 PM
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leosnow 11/24/2012 5:41 PM
Okay, we'll figure something out... let's schedule something for Tuesday and Monday so we don't delay
$an4es 11/24/2012 5:41 PM
next week, weekdays, in the morning
That's the story. I always have the first shift from 7 AM to 5:30 PM Moscow time... I added some time for the commute if I don't take any shortcuts... According to our prior agreement, I can come earlier to rest and start the game at night, Moscow time. But it seems like we can't come to an agreement.
What should I do and how should I proceed???:confused:
"Бороться, бороться, пока не покинет надежда, что может быть в жизни прекрасней подобной игры." В.Каверин "Два капитана".
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#59
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Y11
Penalty sanctions. If a player refuses to continue in the tournament, the team receives a loss, either in the current round or the next.
If a player from the top four does not respond within the round, the team receives a loss in the round and loses an additional 2 points.
IMO, this is too strict. It's not worth deducting points from the team; I think it would be enough to replace the player.

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...if Filosof doesn't show up and start the game by Tuesday, Noom will enter the tournament instead.
However, on the other hand, he is objectively stronger than the other players in 5th place in other teams, except perhaps alijvit... So that there isn't an imbalance.
Maybe then, to balance Noom's entry into the tournament starting from the 1st round, 2 points could be deducted from the green team?
What do you think, esteemed tournament participants?
IMO, there is no need to deduct points from the team :)

Given all these drawbacks, maybe it would be better to swap KillAndAction and Noom. If, of course, Filosof doesn't show up.
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#60
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Changing it isn't a great idea – one game has already been played there against Killah (with Bolivar).
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#61
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Noom
Changing it isn't a great idea – one game has already been played against Killa (with Bolivar).
Killa lost, so it's fine.
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well, there are two options: either the first round results in a loss, or all rounds are played (but if a team scores more than 4 points, they will be penalized with -2).
The second option is more lenient and won't burden the team.

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let's give them another week to finish, and have them play one game against any opponent.
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#63
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Sorry, KillAndAction, that didn't come across very tactfully. Even if the team becomes stronger after replacing players, they still need to prove their advantage. No changes should be made. If the green team wins, then it's fate:smile01:
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#64
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I request that the judges allow me to finish the match with Leosnow on Saturday, the 1st. We will definitely finish it.
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#65
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$an4es
I kindly request the judges to allow us to finish the match with leosnow on Saturday, the 1st. We will definitely finish it.
We started today around 2:00 AM Moscow time, and there were no restarts. We are in the 4th game, and both players have taken 2 out of 3 agreed-upon loads.
We just need to finish the game. My opponent and I decided to either finish it today at the same time or on Saturday before the end of the workday. If it needs to be postponed, we need to decide who to play against according to Y11's post, and fairly determine the home team.
I really hope this is a simple, routine, and solvable situation (especially since there is progress).
Wishing everyone a good day :smile33:, an easy Monday :smile13:, and enjoyable matches in the tournament. :smile49:, and I'm off to work :smile17:
"Бороться, бороться, пока не покинет надежда, что может быть в жизни прекрасней подобной игры." В.Каверин "Два капитана".