Posts from CIS-13 in Minsk – it’s winter!!! Auto-translated

Great humor, dude! :smile20: :smile20: Mikhail appreciated it, I think. I believe the title of author of the most vile post would suit you.

Are you offended or something? There's nothing to be offended about! I don't get offended by your posts, even though there are plenty of reasons to.

Well, you know best, I'm not an expert on this ;).

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The topic is no longer relevant. There will naturally be no winter CIS tournament.

Why not try to make an official appeal to the WCG or ESWC organizations to include HoMM3 in the experimental disciplines for next year?

China, which is hosting the WCG this year, could, in my opinion, include HoMM3 in the list of experimental disciplines. Some "World of Tanks" and other games, which are many times inferior to Heroes in terms of playability, variety, and depth, are included in the list of disciplines, but HoMM3 is not. It is clear that the main reason for this is money.

The WCG officially abandoned Warcraft 3, but China decided to keep it on its own initiative. It is quite likely that the Chinese WCG federation would agree to include HoMM3.

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We just need to make some kind of centralized appeal to the WCG, with one version, rules, etc.

For this to happen, I think we should first get the Chinese players to switch to the World Tree (WT) map, since the majority of our offline players, who form the core of the current CIS championships, play on the World Tree.

For this to happen, I think we need to get the Chinese players to switch to the Warlords of Erathia (WTE) version first, since the quorum of our offline players, who form the core of the current CIS championships, play WTE.

What does WTE have to do with it? China has its own well-developed Heroes community, which may very well do just that. We haven't had much success in establishing contact with them so far.

What does WT have to do with this? China has its own well-developed hero community, which might actually do that. It's just that our contacts with them have been mostly unsuccessful so far.

Well, it's not like we can all switch back to SoD...:D

if the WCG in China features The Restoration of Erathia, you'll switch to that game as well.

VT is an add-on that allows you to play not only FULL-VT, but also settings for classic SoD, in which most bugs have been fixed. So You, Stiki, could suggest VT to the Chinese for review...

lol, that was the first thing I suggested they check out. They looked at it and didn't like it. Now I wouldn't suggest they look at it – it would be too embarrassing to show the garbage that's happening in the chat.

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The CIS Championship wasn't my idea; Alan Prost from Krasnodar was the first to propose the idea of uniting the Heroes community back in 2002. He organized large festivals for three years, so I just suggested reviving the tradition. There are also people in our community who fondly remember those Tournaments.

Regarding WoG and SoD. I have many friends who play WoG, and I respect the guys from Yekaterinburg for how they organized the last CIS Championship, but I can't play WoG, TE, or other mods. There's SoD, which I really love and consider the best game for myself.

I have plans to organize a large festival for SoD players. It probably won't gather as strong a lineup as the CIS Championship on the WoG version, but it will be a game for fans of classic SoD. We still get together as the old group; yesterday, I talked to Misha Skorp in Tambov, and I talked to the guys from Moscow earlier. There are many SoD players on World. If we approach it correctly, we can gather at least as many people as we did in Michurinsk last time.

We'll schedule it separately from the WoG CIS Championship; the planned festival is not a competitor. For example, there's mini-football and there's futsal; these are two different games, each of which has its own national and world championships.

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An evil, half-bald man, squinting slyly, with a red beard; on the left, that's probably Mr. Nagan.

2 ariputra. No, that's Dmitry from Stary Oskol, a good, kind guy. One of the very first players in the country, he played TOHE from the early seasons, since 1999.

If you look at the photo, it's not that old, maybe four years. I have photos of the Heroes community that are 10 years old; those are real rarities.

From left to right:
Reper from Novgorod.
Vik from St. Petersburg.
Matrosov from St. Petersburg.
Dmitry from Stary Oskol.
Flash from Michurinsk.
Skorp from Tambov.
Mizrael from Tambov.
Ta Ko (Tanya, a smart and beautiful girl, one of the few who first promoted World) - from Novgorod.
Mystic from Stary Oskol.
Tema from Michurinsk.
Nagan from Michurinsk.
Yama-Dharma from Moscow.
Lyokha from Michurinsk.
Stinger from Moscow.
Preds from Moscow.

Michurinsk, the "Legion" computer club.

The CIS Championship was not my idea; the first to propose uniting the heroes' community was Alan Prost from Krasnodar in 2002, who hosted large festivals at his place for three years, so I merely suggested reviving those traditions.

If this is a dig at me regarding my phrase "The CIS Club Championship of 'modern times' was conceived...", then the idea to hold the Championship specifically in "modern times" belongs exactly to You.
And generally, well, remember how exhausted You were last year: you even swore off organizing such events (or have people appeared who will actually help and take over certain functions?).
Theoretically, it would be possible to hold tournaments for two disciplines (VT and SoD classic) at the CIS — but in practice, this will complicate organization due to a larger number of participants and more organizational moments. :smile42:
I suggest that SoD players start switching to VT (as the most sporting version of the game, devoid of most of the randoms from the SoD lottery).:smile14:

I suggest that SOD players switch to VT (as it's the most competitive version of the game, free from most of the randomness of the SOD lottery).:smile14:

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This suggestion is something new :D

I think the day is not far off when VT players will start switching to SOD.

I think the day is not far off when VT players will start switching to SOD.

Turns out, you're not as cute as you look in your avatar...
In principle, if Nagan manages to pull it off and the SOD players get organized, and given the financial possibilities (considering the different dates), I would gladly attend the SOD event. But regarding the switch – I'm curious, what is this opinion based on?
Name at least 3 objective reasons. Or 3 obvious advantages of SOD over VT.

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Name at least 3 objective reasons. Or 3 obvious advantages of SoD over WoT.

There is one objective reason, and it's more than enough: asm doesn't care about this anymore [censored]WoT - and you know this better than anyone.

So, Kosti's prediction may well come true in the not-so-distant future thanks to the efforts of the baratorch (although this is no longer SoD either:p).

But regarding switching over—I'm curious, what is this opinion based on?
Give me at least 3 objective reasons. Or 3 obvious advantages of SoD over WT.

1. The number of people. Everyone starts playing in SoD. Tournaments in SoD attract more people.
2. The presence of even greater imbalance between castles, although it should be the opposite.
3. WT experience is not needed by anyone at all. It repels new players.

The pluses of WT consist only in:
1. Mage Guild rebuilding
2. Chess timer
3. 3 stacks and level 2
4. Transferring armies/artifacts

I am sure that points 2 and 3 will vanish in later versions of HD. And point 4 is already gone. All those classes, skill balances, etc., are not needed at all. It turns out that playing WT is only worth it because of the Mage Guild rebuilding! Imagine that :smile01:

Why make a fool of yourself and double down by rambling about things you don't understand? Why, without showing anything at all in BT, did you start lecturing with such pathos on the theory of BT gameplay? I suggest you justify the imbalance of castles, for example. And generally, maybe everyone should just start playing like Maretti without DD or fly. And then, it's nothing but balance and panic...

It is obvious that in HL maps, BT is stronger, better, and more skillfully tuned. Everything else is just talk for the poor.

I won't write on behalf of everyone like the previous guru, but IMHO—what specifically repels me from SoD:

The impossibility of rebuilding the GM on large maps.
No chess timer.
No quick combat.
Domination of Earth Magic. If you have it—you're golden; if not, there can be big problems.
Necromancer (IMHO—stupid grinding of neutrals is for anti-heroes)
Cheat artifact—the red orb (which kills the intrigue in 70% of final battles).
Cheat artifacts: cloak and medal.
Cheat artifact boots—giving 600 mp.
Logistics units walking across half the map with a full set of artifacts at levels 20+.

I will intentionally not write about the pluses of BT created specifically for this version (such as mirror templates).