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3-2 in favor of the new grid so far, 1 abstained, although the response is closer to being against the new grid...
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In general, if this is the case, and the places occupied in the qualifying round are not taken into account when forming the bracket, then a blind draw should be conducted, and the players should be placed as luck dictates, or they should play according to the initial bracket, which, as I understand it, is formed based on the results of the group stage.
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In general, if this is the case, and the places occupied in the selection are not taken into account when forming the bracket, then a blind draw should be held, and everyone plays according to their luck, or play according to the first bracket, which, as I understand it, is formed based on the results of the group stage.
It is impossible to completely ignore it, IMHO. Otherwise, why did we even play the group stage?
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In general, if this is the case, and the places occupied in the qualifying round are not taken into account when forming the bracket, then a blind draw should be conducted, and the players should play according to the first bracket, which, as I understand it, is formed based on the results of the group stage.
The pairs are formed according to the places occupied. It is only suggested to change the order of the pairs in the 1/8 final stage to more or less equalize the players in the subsequent pairs based on the results of the 1/8 final matches...
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#295
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Of course, the second option is better; otherwise, based on the first one, we could have called the top part of the grid "papal" and the bottom part "gangster-like" :D
" Дурак учится на своих ошибках, умный - на чужих, а мудрый старается их не совершать!
Пусть будет больше мудрецов и жить станет легче!!! "


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#296
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Ah, it would have been better if they had recognized the qualifying round as a warm-up and started everything over from scratch; then I could have participated in this tournament too.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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ABKSever
In general, if this is the case, and the places taken in the qualifying round are not taken into account when forming the bracket, then a blind draw should be held, and everyone gets what they get, or they play according to the first bracket, which, as I understand it, is formed based on the results of the group stage.

There is a misunderstanding here, I will try to explain.
The first bracket is based on the results of the qualifying stage only in the 1/8 stage, and in the 1/4 stage, it is simply arranged in order, and in this part, the places in the groups are not taken into account.
The second bracket corresponds to the places taken in the group, both in the 1/8 and 1/4 stages, because if you simply take the 4 best players from two groups (taking into account Buchholz) and draw a 1/4 bracket, and then look at the new table, you will see that it leads to the previous 1/4 bracket, which was formed before the expansion to 16 participants in the playoff bracket.
Therefore, expanding the number of playoff participants to 16 gives those who did not make it into the top 4 in their group a chance to change something, i.e., to change the 1/4 bracket. Otherwise, the new playoff bracket in the 1/4 stage will be exactly what it was with 8 participants.
Namely, the pairs: Adv - ABKSever, dmitrik - Daniel_M, ХРЕН/GL - Igrok-76, Will-Nobody.
Conclusion: the new bracket is formed taking into account the places taken in the group stage, and not "randomly" or simply by selecting pairs based on strength, as it may seem.
P.S. In general, when voting, I would not take into account the votes of the participants in the lower bracket of the previous version of the table, because it was very easy there, and it is clear that many participants liked this "holiday".
"Да, человек смертен, но это было бы еще пол беды. Плохо то, что он иногда внезапно смертен, вот в чем фокус". БУЛГАКОВ М.А.
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P.S. In general, when voting, I wouldn't take into account the votes of participants from the lower bracket of the previous version of the table, because it was a complete sham, and it's clear that many participants enjoyed this "celebration."
This is not right. Either there is democracy – then everyone who is interested votes, or there is a dictatorship – then whatever the judge says, that's how it will be.
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This isn't right. Either there's democracy – then all interested parties vote – or there's a dictatorship – then whatever the judge says goes.
This is just my personal opinion, based on the voting of participants in the lower bracket, where no one voted "FOR" the new system.
"Да, человек смертен, но это было бы еще пол беды. Плохо то, что он иногда внезапно смертен, вот в чем фокус". БУЛГАКОВ М.А.
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So, what do you expect – it’s democracy in action. Who would vote for an option that’s not beneficial for themselves – only a staunch dictator would :).
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This is my personal opinion, based on the voting of participants in the lower bracket, and none of them voted "FOR" keeping the old version.

Well, none of the participants in the upper bracket voted for the old version either, so by analogy, we should prohibit them from voting as well.
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And in which part of the map was I in the first version? Just for comparison. I'm personally in favor of the free option. If that's not available, I'll go with the second one.
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I'm for the second option. With my skill level, it doesn't really matter who I lose to. :D
#304
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So, we're playing as the last remaining faction, right? :)
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It seems like we've decided on the grid.:D
KillAndAction
Should the draft be done in a snake draft format (1-1-1 with races being eliminated until the final) or should each round be a new draft?
What about the draft – what templates and races will be used?
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