Mafia 55. Star Wars: Clone Wars — Mafia

Вульфгар

9/28/2012 3:46 AM UTC

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The subject of the dream - upon Anakin's death, he learns the name of the killer.

I don't understand. O_o

Где этот раб? Чужеземцы достали!(с) Морроувинд.
Сердце Хаоса - Морроувинд, каким он мог быть.

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Победитель

9/28/2012 3:54 AM UTC

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Wulfgar

I don't understand. O_o

Padmé is the object of Anakin's dreams (nightmares). And upon her death, he learns the name of her killer. I made references to interactions with other roles wherever possible, so that by reading about one role, you can learn everything about it.

Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

RiMpel2

9/28/2012 4:30 AM UTC

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In short, he would know the name of her killer, but she wouldn't know the name of his killer, because only he possesses this ability.

Zybr

9/28/2012 4:31 AM UTC

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when someone is kidnapped, it doesn't specify who was taken

:D

Wulfgar always felt like someone was watching him. Once, he even noticed a human figure. Ple-Sen found himself in a similar situation, but this unpleasant feeling of being watched was accompanied by a sense of security.

With Ple-Sen, only Ahsoka comes to mind, because the feeling of calmness is often a reference to protection. As for Wulf, Padme comes to mind, because a small figure only fits female characters, and Ahsoka is already being used.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Zybr

9/28/2012 4:33 AM UTC

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In short, he would know the name of her killer, but she would not know the name of his killer, because only he possesses this ability.

Well, it's clearly written in black and white: "upon death, Anakin will know...", not "upon death, Anakina will know...".

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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RiMpel2

9/28/2012 4:38 AM UTC

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Kosh

I'm not defending Ment, I just think the host wouldn't give such an obvious hint. Or would he?

The similarity is too striking. And you're interesting. The phrase "I'm not defending, but..." is often used by people with negative attitudes. Uh-huh.

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Zybr

Well, it's written in black and white there: "upon death, Anakin learns...", not "upon death, Anakina learns..."

Yeah. At first, I thought they had a mutual trait. They're family, after all. And she turned out to be a rather inattentive wife. Tsk.

Zybr

9/28/2012 4:40 AM UTC

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I'm not defending Ment, I just think the host wouldn't give such an obvious hint. Or would he?

There are several similarities to Ment, in different corpses. So the chances of a successful execution of the negative character are high. Maniacs should be hanged on par with the mafia, because there are too many shots fired at night.

Yeah. I initially thought they had a mutual trait. They're family, after all. And she turned out to be a rather inattentive wife. Too bad.

Well, she's not a Jedi anyway.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Kosh

9/28/2012 4:47 AM UTC

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RiMpel2

You're interesting.

Yeah, I am :3

RiMpel2

The phrase "I'm not defending, but..." is often used by those with negative intentions. Uh-huh.

I don't argue, but if this clue is to be believed, Ment is a neutral player who is dangerous to both the Town and the Mafia, meaning there's no point in covering for him for either side.

И ярость тысячи солнц падёт на вас! >:3

Zybr

9/28/2012 4:52 AM UTC

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I don't disagree, but if this clue is to be believed, Ment is a neutral player who is dangerous to both the town and the mafia, meaning there's no point in covering for him for any of the players.

:D Okay, the first post about Ment was fine... But what is this?)) For the town, Ment is either a serial killer or a mafia member, and it doesn't really matter today who he actually is. The execution will tell. But it's almost 100% likely that he's a negative influence.
The mafia is more likely to know his role, and if he's a serial killer, then it makes no sense for them to save him, but if he's a mafia member, then it's very much worth it.
So, Kosh, you can now be safely written down as being in the mafia, because this statement "Ment is a neutral player" only suggests the opposite and that you decided to try to save Ment.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Kosh

9/28/2012 5:19 AM UTC

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Zybr

So, Kosh, you can safely be written down as a member of the Mafia now, because such a statement as "The Cop is neutral" only indicates the opposite and that you decided to try to save the Cop.

*a reminder to myself: don't write posts late at night or early in the morning when my head isn't working and I can't express my thoughts properly.*
I didn't write that the Cop is neutral. I wrote that this follows from the clue and the general discussion of the players who grabbed onto the first coincidence they found. Well, I'm sure that the host wouldn't point so obviously to a player. Although, on the other hand, in the last game, he pointed to the Werewolf with the phrase about the lone wolf >__
It makes sense for me to save the Cop only if I know his role and he is my partner. Since Eni has already left the game (hopefully temporarily :3), only the Mafia members who know each other remain. This is a possible option, but I wouldn't reveal myself so stupidly – after all, I have quite a bit of experience playing Mafia (even if not on this forum) :3

И ярость тысячи солнц падёт на вас! >:3

Zybr

9/28/2012 5:33 AM UTC

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*a reminder to myself: don't write posts late at night or early in the morning when my head isn't clear and I can't express my thoughts properly.*
I didn't say that Ment is neutral. I said that it comes from the clue and the General discussion of players who jumped at the first coincidence. Well, I'm sure that the host wouldn't explicitly point to a player. Although, on the other hand, in the previous game, he pointed to Wolf with the phrase about a lone wolf >__<
It makes sense for me to save Ment only if I know his role and he is my teammate. Since Eni has already left the game (hopefully temporarily :3), only the Mafia players who know each other remain. This option is possible, but I wouldn't reveal myself so obviously – I have quite a lot of experience playing Mafia (even if not on this forum) :3

That's exactly why your posts make me wary. You persistently assign the role of a maniac to Ment, even though he could be a Mafia member. And in that case, the clue would be even better.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Kosh

9/28/2012 5:48 AM UTC

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Zybr

You persistently portray Ment as a maniac, even though he could also be a member of the Mafia.

No, I'm actually writing that Ment might not be Savage. =[br][/br]People immediately started writing that he's almost 100% neutral and began to accuse him, because his registration date is October 30th. I wrote that we shouldn't focus on this and try to look at this clue more broadly. Where is the implication that he's neutral here? =[br][/br]

Zybr

And in this case, the clue will be even better.

Are you talking about the "ace" and the word "cards" in Ment's signature? Or are you somehow connecting "sociopath" to his profile?

И ярость тысячи солнц падёт на вас! >:3

Zybr

9/28/2012 6:12 AM UTC

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Or did you somehow connect "sociopath" to his profile?

I like this option:

A cop in a preserve. I catch woodcutters and poachers. My best friends are woodpeckers.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Драккошка

9/28/2012 6:17 AM UTC

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For the city of Ment, it's either a maniac or a member of the Mafia, and frankly, it doesn't matter today, so who is he really?

There's a difference! Well, you all understand.
Okay, then it's unclear who Ziro was, which doesn't negate the fact that he was most likely a kind and gentle person who needs to be saved.

Although, I wouldn't mind reducing the number of USEFUL characters to one, just so you know.

А, вот почему.

??+⛓️♿=?

Zybr

9/28/2012 6:32 AM UTC

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No, I'm actually saying that Ment might not be Savage.

Since you're experienced, I think you should understand how your posts sound from the outside. You're not really saying that Ment isn't a maniac, because if you were, you would have immediately focused on other clues about him, not just on the third attempt, or at least mentioned them as possible, but you would have said that they don't appeal to you for one reason or another. You only focused on one piece of evidence and one role. And it seems to me that you did this only to try not to draw too much attention to Ment, i.e., to prevent the town from focusing too much on other versions. In this scenario, you're in a win-win situation, because when it turns out that Ment is indeed not Savage, you can nod wisely and say, "Well, I told you! You should have listened to me!" and so on.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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