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No, I believe that Agrael killed Nicholas, after all. If it had been Biara, they would have definitely shown it to us. I wanted to say that Railag seems to have placed all the blame on Biara, even though she was completely innocent here (it's amazing: Biara killed so many: Beatrice, Tieru, Andrias, and Godric; and she was blamed for something she was actually not guilty of).
I think so too. What do you think, if Faydaen had killed Marcel first, would Nicholas, the vampire, have ended the war with the elves? It seems to me that if that had happened, the Necromancers, led by Nicholas, would have also opposed KHA-BELEH, but as it is, Faydaen killed a potential ally. What do you think about this?

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After all, Nicholas commanded the entire Necromancer army, which would have unconditionally followed him against the Overlord, which means he could have brought much more benefit than Faydaen, and Nicholas himself was stronger than Faydaen.
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I think Faidaen did the right thing. Nicholas wasn't just strong; he was also completely uncontrollable. And that could have led to unpredictable consequences...
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I think Faidaen did the right thing. Nicholas was not only strong, but also completely uncontrollable. And that could have led to unpredictable consequences...
But it depends on how you look at it. His "brain" remained the same; the only bad thing was that he was not a full-fledged necromancer, but merely a high-level vampire, which means his mind could be controlled by a stronger necromancer or someone else. It would be more correct to say that he was "not fully controllable."
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What should be considered equivalent in this case?
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What should be considered equivalent in this case?
But on the other hand, remember Ornella's first teacher - Giovanni. He was also a higher vampire, but no one controlled him. He made his own decisions. Personally, I think that only Markel possessed such a good ability to control someone with his mind.

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In general, everyone has their own opinion on this issue. Personally, I think that Nicholas, without Markel's control, would definitely be safe and could have helped a lot during the campaign against the Overlord.

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Fayden was a fanatic no less than Alaric and Laslo; he would never have left Nicholas alive (or rather, undead). Just as Alaric and Laslo covered themselves by saying that they were expelling demons from the empire, Fayden constantly covered himself by saying that he was supposedly restoring harmony, and under this pretext, he was ready to kill anyone.

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Personally, I wouldn't regret it at all if Fayden was in Nicholas's place.
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What do you think, if Faydaen had killed Marquel first, and Nicholas, the vampire, had stopped the war with the elves? It seems to me that if that had happened, the Necromancers, led by Nicholas, would have also opposed Kha-Beleh. But as it is, in my opinion, Faydaen killed a potential ally. What do you think about this?

I doubt that Nicholas would have joined the allied forces. He changed a lot after the resurrection ritual.

Each of the four who opposed Kha-Beleh had their own motives. Godric's goal was to restore the Empress to her rightful throne, Railag's goal was to save Isabel at all costs, and Faydaen and Zehir's goal was to prevent the Dark Messiah from appearing.

It is unlikely that the vampire Nicholas cared about his former fiancée or the fate of Ashan. Perhaps, after the resurrection, he even hated Isabel. After all, because of her, he was cursed, because of her, he left Erathia forever. Therefore, IMHO, the return of the queen to the throne would hardly please Nicholas.
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Fanatic and Diplomat)) The most amusing thing is that he has the combat skill "Tactics" in his skills. Not to mention Attack...

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I doubt Nicholas would join the allied forces. He changed a lot after the resurrection ritual.

He clearly wasn't planning on joining anyone. The Necromancer who resurrected him didn't do a very good job. Or, to put it more accurately: he resurrected him "badly," sorry for the details.
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I doubt Nicholas would have joined the allied forces. He changed a lot after the resurrection ritual.

Each of the four who opposed Kha-Beleth had their own motives. Godric's goal was to restore the Queen of the Empire to her rightful throne, Railag's goal was to save Isabel at all costs, and Faidaen and Zehir's goal was to prevent the Dark Messiah from appearing.

It is unlikely that the vampire Nicholas cared about his former fiancée or the fate of Ashan. Perhaps, after the resurrection, he even hated Isabel. After all, because of her, he was cursed, because of her, he left Elrath forever. Therefore, IMHO, the return of the queen to the throne would hardly please Nicholas.
Nicholas's goal could have been an attempt to lift the curse. Remember, after Godric's death, the Archangels descended to earth (although they were not seen at all during the civil war), and Elrath himself spoke with Frida and sent her his gift, with which Frida killed Laslo. Perhaps if Nicholas had done a lot of good (like Godric), Elrath would have forgiven him, and for the first time in the history of Ashan, someone resurrected by a Necromancer would have returned to Elrath. Nicholas could at least try to lift the curse.

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...So to speak, he would have gone through a kind of purgatory

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Fanatic and Diplomat)) The most curious thing is that he has the combat skill "Tactics" in his skills) not to mention Attack...

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He clearly wasn't going to join anyone) The Necromancer who resurrected him didn't do a very good job. Or, to put it more accurately: he resurrected him "badly," sorry for the details))
But how, in your opinion, is it "good" to resurrect someone? Only the Archangels know how to do it well, but even they were powerless in Nicholas's case
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Well, either Nicholas's soul wasn't ready for such corruption, or he was deliberately raised in a way that made him not entirely intelligent. As for Markel, he's a cunning fellow who made everything work for himself.
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Either Nicholas's soul wasn't ready for such corruption, or he was deliberately elevated in such a way that he wouldn't be too smart. Markel is a cunning bug; he made everything work for him.
Nicholas was needed as a commander, and in such a matter, being "slightly" unintelligent is not an option. Markel could completely control Nicholas's mind when necessary.

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And it turns out that Nicholas is the one who kills everyone. Therefore, if Nicholas ever loses, no one will spare him. It's a double revenge: Markel used Nicholas as a commander and then didn't allow his soul to find peace. A cunning snake.

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And by the way, after Faydaen killed Nicholas, did his soul remain in the world, or did it perish with his body?
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it seems history is silent about this.
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I think if Markela had been killed earlier, on the same day, and Nicholas had died for good, that would have been it.
 

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I think if Markela had been killed earlier, on the same day, and Nicholas had died completely, that would have been it.
Why is that?
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I don't know how it works in Asylum, but usually, corpses raised in this way are not viable without constant support from a Necromancer.
 

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I don't know how it works in Ashan, but usually, corpses raised in this way are not viable without constant support from a Necromancer.
Let's say, but what about Lord Giovanni? He was also a high vampire, but he didn't need anyone's support. What do you think about him?
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