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13 years ago
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for me, the tournament brought new information; the book can be obtained by any hero who has the Titan's Thunder artifact. I conducted a "special investigation" to find out where it came from :D

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tell me how you broke Utopia; I don't understand :D
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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13 years ago
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Hi everyone, it's been a while since I've been here ).
I'll post the step-by-step replays tomorrow, everything's at work ), I didn't even manage to grab them.
For now from memory: with Crag Hack after the Knowledge Stone and army: unicorn, all centaurs (including those from Yennova), Troglodytes and eyes (from the lord from the tavern) I flattened the Dwarven unicorn guards. I remember the most optimal option was when the remaining 4 or 3 unicorns after 1.5 rounds (I don't remember exactly) blinded my horned one, and I was essentially finishing off the remnants. Then I bought 2 more horned ones, then upgraded everything (or not) and with Crag Hack tore apart the harpies guarding the box. That also went easily, but I took screenshots just in case to restore it in memory later. Next, Gelu - Stronghold, on the way, the helper destroyed the Wizards. From the Stronghold, Gretchin runs out with 3 horned ones and spends the night with a Sniper after two level-ups under the Dwarven monsters, and Fiona runs out in the same direction to scout the opposite shore for a successful Levitation. Gretchin's first level-up gives Mysticism, and as a result, on the second day he has 12 mana, exactly enough for a water walk. Next, we take the Summon Boat scroll. We return to the start. Using the transparent ponds, we summon a boat with Sylvia and jump into it near the water mill; on the way, we level up at the Knowledge Stone to Advanced Navigation.
On the second day, we collect the thunder, exchange the monster for a Gorgon, use the Gorgon to headbutt the rusted ones (had a tough time), buy out the rusted one and finish.
Initially, I planned to capture the Dragon Utopia too, and visit the Library with dad, but somehow it wasn't meant to be.
DmitriyAS

Кто сильнее или шаблон для сравнения городов по силе.
Различие офф-лайна в Heroes II и Heroes III.
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13 years ago
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Congratulations to the winner!

I broke the harpies in a straightforward way: I took the external dwelling of wood, then bought them up, and 0 Calt kills the harpies without any issues. The army was 2 snipers, wood + Centaur from the dwelling and Centaur from the home. Wood on defense, then I dismantled it. I calculated the finances, and a two-day clear didn't add up, because I was planning to take the Utopia right away. Otherwise, it wouldn't be interesting. Toward the end, I got the terrible news that, in principle, a scout hero could reach the Azure on the second day. I recalculated again, but in the end I couldn't make the money work, and I didn't bother redoing it, since resubmitting the loud run didn't spark any enthusiasm.

Thanks for the tournament.

P.S. I could have added 1 to the parameters, but since I already knew I wouldn't be first, I decided not to bother with replays.
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13 years ago
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Thank you, I'm glad that even with so many distracting, but pleasant factors, I can show something interesting. I played casually, in a quick playthrough mode.

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Thanks again for the tournament, or rather, thanks for the series of tournaments. Everything was at the highest level. I think I played all four (or did I miss one?). I remember, in one of them, I was overwhelmed because I hired two heroes on the same day. Dirty_Player, would you register on the Portal? I'd give you an angel on your back as a thank you.
DmitriyAS

Кто сильнее или шаблон для сравнения городов по силе.
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13 years ago
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Here's a post-factum, just in case. Is it possible to get Utopia?

Antoshka:

A more complex option with maximum parameters. We gather 2-3 bulls and take down the rusty dragons (GT doesn't work on cursed land). And we go to the Azure Dragon by walking on water using the "walk on water" spell.
I killed it with 1 bull, sacrificing unicorns.
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13 years ago
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I simply didn't have enough gold for both the Rusty and the Fairytale ones at the same time. Without the Rusty one in Dragon Utopia, I was getting stomped like a kid. With a two-day pass, probably not, but then again, it needs to be checked. I'll post step-by-step guides, and since my start is decent, we can brainstorm different development options together.
DmitriyAS

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13 years ago
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Yeah, I was on the fairground and realized where the problem lies. I can't manage to create a sequence that allows me to both defeat the dragon and make a successful attack.
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13 years ago
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Yes, multiple gaps appear due to the relative distance between the dwelling of the Fabled and the actual Utopia. It is necessary to send 2-3 heroes to that zone at the end of the first day. But the budget isn't unlimited, is it? But I'll reiterate, it needs to be checked. I'm having problems with this in this tournament.
DmitriyAS

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13 years ago
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How do I join the tournament? I didn't understand the latest messages, and I didn't read the first one.
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13 years ago
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I created a thread where I posted all the maps from this series. Vote for the one you like best.
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13 years ago
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0) http://www.heroesportal.net/getfile.php?file=/files/information/16/FizMiG.rar download FizMiG, it will reveal many new things in Heroes.

1) use the spacebar key.
2) you can download and use Prospektor. It will show all objects, artifacts, etc. http://www.heroesportal.net/tavern/?id=367658
3) Gorgon creates the Breath of Death spell. If Gorgon casts Breath of Death three times in a row, she can easily kill Rust Monsters. In essence, it's a very long process.

6) There is a description of the Pandora hack in the Heroesportal forum.
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13 years ago
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Chingis
Excellent educational material! Thank you!
1. Why did Ignissa enter the portal? And how did Ignissa return from the portal? She had no movement points left. And even if she did, wouldn't she need
to step aside and accordingly take a fight with one Pixie? What trick is that? And why did she return at all?
A space is our clue.
Chingis

2. How can you see on the map that whirlpool that Sylvia fell into? It's not visible. And explain these words: "By using transparent ponds, we summon a
boat with Sylvia"?
The spell "Summon Boat" from the Water magic school. The terrain where Sylvia summoned the boat is called "clear ponds". On this terrain, all Water magic spells are cast at "expert" level. There are no free boats on the map, so without expert Water magic we cannot summon a boat. The terrain helps us with this.
Chingis

3. Why did Kilgor swap a Behemoth for 1 Gorgon? How is a Gorgon better in combat than a Behemoth? Explain these words too: "with the help of the gorgon we headbutt the rusted ones (struggled)"?
The Gorgon has the "Death Stare" ability. It was used to kill the Rust Dragons.
Chingis

4. How did Sylvia transfer all items to Zeron? She had no movement points after landing, and Zeron, as I understood, didn't move.
Sylvia landed in front of the Gold Golems, fled, and was recruited from the tavern.
Chingis

5. Corbac is standing in the Sulfur Lair, the flag color is gray, in the next save it's green, but the dragons aren't bought. The question is, how can you enter if you've already entered? Step away, then enter again? Also, the unicorn dwelling was taken. There must be some trick?
Space.
Chingis

6. When breaking the Pandora's Box, what was the trick based on, what's the point? I mean, how do you break it?:)
In the first round, I removed the retaliation of the Harpies with the Centaur (kicked with everyone except the Troglodytes).
Unicorns blind, better at the start of the second round. The boss moves to the eyes, Troglodytes approach the Harpies.
In the third round, Unicorns go to the eyes, everyone defends.
In the fourth, everyone waits, Troglodytes attack (they survived retaliation, I think), after the Harpies' turn (they finish off the Troglodytes), attack them with Centaurs and Unicorns. Unicorns blind in two hits (in the 4th or 5th rounds).
Then the same as at the start. Remove retaliation with the remaining single Centaur.
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Chingis

Explain what this "breaking" means and why?
We attack and flee, in order to then recruit from a tavern in a different location on the map. That's the trick.
DmitriyAS

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13 years ago
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Chingis
I didn't know that a single Gorgon could defeat a Rusty in 3 turns.
A Gorgon can defeat a single living creature in one attack. It doesn't matter how much health it has.

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