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And by the way, Lord gives pretty good advice; you just had a weak opponent, it wouldn't work on me. Look, I also have a replay. There, the elf will be stronger than yours, and the orc doesn't have any special abilities, but he has defense! Mortulus was right, defense plays a much bigger role!
I agree about the defense; that's true. I also want to clarify that both of us were leveling up our primary heroes, and we didn't have enough money because we were developing three castles each. And the mentor consumes a lot of money. For example, I spent more than 50,000 gold to level up my primary hero. And the orc was already heading towards me. I didn't have enough money to buy and upgrade everyone. And you're saying, "level up this and that!" But sometimes, it just doesn't happen! Your Lord may give advice, but it's not relevant to my situation. Don't believe me? Reread my posts! I watched it. In this save, the elf is just pathetic. No one was summoned right away, and the archers barely even attacked (even though this is Osir, who was supposed to find all the artifacts so they would attack first). There are no nymphs at all! And your strong elf didn't kill almost anyone there! Yes, you're right, I'm far from that level (and thank goodness for that!):smile14:
I don't argue about defense, that's true. I also want to clarify that both of us were leveling up our heroes, and we didn't have enough money because we had three castles that each of us was developing. And the mentor also consumes a lot of money. For example, I spent more than 50,000 gold to level up my hero. And the Orc was already rushing towards me. I didn't have enough money to buy and upgrade everyone. And you're saying to level up this and that! But sometimes it just doesn't happen!!! Your Lord may give advice, but it's not relevant to my situation; if you don't believe me, reread them! I looked. In this save, the Elf is simply pathetic)))) No one attacked him immediately, and the archers basically didn't even get a chance to attack (even though this is Osir, who was supposed to find all the artifacts so that they would attack first). There are no nymphs at all!!! And your strong Elf didn't kill almost anyone there!!! Yes, you're right, I'm far from that level (and thank goodness!!!):smile14:
What's up with Mortulus suddenly becoming my ally? We're constantly at war, but he likes to chat, and today he gave very relevant and insightful comments about my replay! You say I should have used archers, that they should have attacked first. I agree, but my goal was to avoid that. Both I and he had staves and rings that increased initiative, so our base initiative was equal! The archers have 11, and the centaurs under Haggesh (level 30) have 13, plus 1 more from the leaders, so the archers definitely wouldn't have attacked first. And notice that the Orc has 44 defense, while the Elf's attack is 20, so they wouldn't have killed much:) If we consider Wingrael instead of Osir, then the archers are no longer dangerous, but it's not a fact that they will attack before the Orc leaders, and the leaders have +2 to initiative on the first turn, and they already pass the turn to the centaurs. Without Osir, the archers are weak and will die from the first shot! Regarding the lack of nymphs: you would have taken them with you, but the opponent I was playing against anticipated a different outcome, that I might scare his archers with a roar, and the nymphs would have been enough to damage the cyclops:), The opponent is a very experienced player; are you sure you can play better? Let's try!
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Looks like Gold is trying to trick us, he put together some kind of nonsense, and probably cheated himself! In the replay, there are no bonuses from Fury, even though the Orc has 3 Fury points (I haven't seen such a trick before), and why would you take Pure Fury (SA) if it doesn't give any bonus? And if you were playing against someone, not just yourself, your nickname and your opponent's nickname would be displayed! Why is the Orc so stupid and doesn't use summons? Yes, this is just an autobattle! I've attached a screenshot, take a look!
Looks like our clever friend, Gold, is trying to trick us. He's concocted some nonsense, and probably cheated! In the replay, there are no bonuses from Fury, even though the Orc has 3 Fury points (I've never seen such a thing). And why would you take pure Fury (SA) if it doesn't give a bonus? Besides, if you were playing against someone else, your nickname and your opponent's would be displayed! Why is the Orc so dumb and doesn't use summons? This is just a pure auto-battle! I've attached a screenshot, take a look!
As for Fury, I don't know. Maybe it's just a glitch in the replay... We're playing with a friend on the same PC, taking turns, which is why the nicknames aren't displayed! I told the Orc about summons, but he said it's nonsense because he has Krag (whose specialty is attacking), and he's already used it twice! If you want to play, I'm not against it.:smile10:
I don't know about the rage. Maybe it's just a thing in the replay... We're playing with a friend on the same PC, taking turns, so the nickname doesn't show up! I told the Orc about the call, but he said it was nonsense because he has Krag (whose specialty is attacking), and he only went down twice! If you want to play, I'm not against it.:smile10:
No! There are no such things in the replay, but maybe only in yours! Regarding the game, write to me in a private message, and we will definitely play if you're not afraid!
I don't know about the rage myself. Maybe it's just a thing in the replay... We're playing with a friend on the same PC, taking turns, which is why the nickname isn't displayed! I told the Orc about the shouts, but he said it's nonsense because he has Krag (whose specialty is attacking), and he's already been to the dungeon twice! If you want to play, I'm not against it.:smile10:
Oh, so you're playing Hot Seat... :) Then, on the Mentor map, you could have completely changed the build to an anti-elf Orc. Then you wouldn't need luck at all, because it was already off the charts (artifacts + stat boosters). The rest, in principle, could be left as in the build you posted in the screenshot.
I also noticed that weird thing about the rage right away, but then I thought it was just a bug in the replay - it often happens. Although it's all strange... Maybe you could compare the creature's parameters before and after? That would definitely show the truth.
I think that in Hot Seat, people just level up at their own pace, without interfering with each other by agreement, which is why the army size is clearly inflated. Hot Seat is a different game. The tactics are different too, and the players are weaker than in online play...
Well, the fears about the Outcast for Krag turned out to be justified; the rumors were true ;) :)
Shouts aren't nonsense... Tell your friend that he would get +16 attack from them, which is about an 80% increase in damage....
As I understand from the discussion, they were playing on the "Three Rivers" map, edited by Mdance. In addition to mentors, it also includes several dwellings of levels 4-7, which allows for having doubled armies.
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I don't know about the rage myself. Maybe it's just a thing in the replay... We play with a friend on one PC in turns, so the nickname doesn't appear! I told the Orc about the spells, but he said it was nonsense because he has Krag (whose specialty is to attack), and he only used it twice! If you want to play, I'm not against it.:smile10:
Your friend was probably trying to use Krag's spells on the first turn, but couldn't do it because of the "Breaker" specialization, so he made a hasty conclusion about the uselessness of spells :cool:
Your friend was probably trying to use Crag's summons on the first turn, but couldn't because of the "Disruptor" specialization, so he jumped to the conclusion that summons are useless.
No, that's not it! He's not a pro at playing the Stronghold! He didn't even level up the summons skill, meaning he didn't build a summons tower! The thing about Crag is the +% critical hit chance per level, so he was attacking instead of using summons:D
As I understand from the discussion, they were playing on the "Three Rivers" map in the Mdance edition - in addition to mentors, it also includes several dwellings of levels 4-7, which makes it possible to have doubled armies.
That's right! I partially wrote about this!
No! There are no such things in the replay, but maybe it's only in yours! Regarding the game, write to me in a private message, and we'll definitely play if you're not scared!
Just let me know! Yaroslavl city!!! I'll even buy you a beer! If anyone from Yaroslavl is interested, write to me!!!
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Only hot sit))
It looks very strange. Weren't you scared?
Because the Krag's special ability is +% to critical hit for each level, that's why it attacked instead of using spells.
It's clear that he's not a pro. Probably, just like you, he's playing Orcs for the first time.
As for the spells, they are half the victory for an Orc.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения! И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день
No, no!! He's not a pro for the Stronghold! He hasn't even leveled up the Knights, I mean, the Knight Tower! The trick is that Krag gets a % bonus to critical hit chance for each level, so he was hitting instead of using the Knights' abilities:D
Exactly!!! I partially wrote about this!!!
Just kidding))) The city is Yaroslavl!!! I'll even buy you a beer! If anyone from Yaroslavl is interested, write to me!!!
When you said you accepted my challenge, did you mean I should come to Yaroslavl to play? Or is that just an excuse (like something a child would say)? Couldn't you come up with something more interesting? Do you not have internet in Yaroslavl, are you using an internet cafe to communicate? Or do you not have a legitimate copy of the game? You can play over "Hamachi" even with a pirated copy, right? Regarding Krag! What prevents you from giving Krag support to anyone and using the Knights' abilities? Even with support, there's a 40% higher chance that Krag's double strike will activate! All the actions your friend took are exactly what the auto-battle does; I suspect you were playing against the computer!
Thank you :) Another question about Wing. The game says that it increases initiative by 1% per level. My hero is already level 35, and I'm looking at the initiative of the troops on the map and in battle, but it hasn't changed. Am I misunderstanding this skill, or does it only affect the first turn in battle, and then the initiative is normal?
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I probably didn't understand this skill correctly, or does it only work on the first turn in battle, and then the initiative is standard?
Yes, exactly. It gives a first-strike advantage, so to speak. It permanently increases the initiative only for the special unit, Raileigh.
