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creating a copy of a person and simply programming it is just a clone, but it will be a different person.

In fact, this is closer to what I was talking about than transferring fluid in the cerebral cortex into a digital format.
I can better imagine this from a psychological point of view. That is, the psychology of an individual is thoroughly studied, and based on it, a single clear algorithm of human behavior is built, which also implies development, learning, and everything else. It seems to me that the psychology of each person can be recorded in the form of such an algorithm. Yes, it will turn out to be nothing more than programming. A person regularly makes certain choices, he makes one decision out of several. Even going to the kitchen for a cookie is considered a choice, because the person could have not gone to the kitchen. It is possible to create a huge flowchart of human behavior, in which there will be trillions of quadrillions of links, and if it is possible to create a flowchart, then a program can be written based on it, and if it is possible to write a program of behavior (character, soul, consciousness - these are synonyms here) of a person, then it is possible to create its digital copy.

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I think that transferring a person's body into a digital format will be much easier than transferring his character, that is, there will be no problems with this, if anything.

Okay, let’s say you create an exact clone of yourself, but what happens next? You’ll still die.

Why would I die? What's the reason for that? I don't see any logical connection at all.

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and then what?

And then I wrote what. I wrote why it might be useful. Besides, I think you can come up with a thousand more reasons why digital cloning of a person might be useful.

Why would I die? What makes you say that?

Well, everyone dies eventually. You were trying to explain to me that this is how one can become immortal.

Besides, I think you can come up with a thousand more reasons why digital cloning of a person might be useful.

Yes, it might be useful, but not for becoming immortal.

This plot has already been used in some movie: a guy had his DNA analyzed, the data was converted into binary code, some mathematical dependencies were found, something else was mixed in, and all this was released on the internet as a computer virus.

Looks like it’s in “Hottabych”.

Maybe. I don't remember.
This is the only way to create a "digital" clone, if possible. Nothing more. Perhaps a clone with the original's memories.
But reviving a real person in this way – I doubt it.

This is how one can become immortal.

Not quite. I was talking about an unplanned death, such as murder or death in an accident.

But if we develop the idea, we can come up with many things, including immortality. The point is that a person has a mortal body. If it could be updated without affecting the mind, then it would be possible to give him immortality. And this can be achieved with digital cloning - as the body wears out, a virtual copy of the patient's personality is created, which is then uploaded into an artificially created (or grown) body. Of course, the person will have to get used to it, but that's a matter of time. If it becomes possible to make a "backup" of the body, then a copy with excellent health can be made at the age of twenty-five, and then recreated after forty years using its digital copy. It will be the same person, only much younger.

And we should also consider that while the copy is in digital form, anything can be done with it, in particular, it can be edited. It is possible to remove or add certain personality traits, and perhaps it will be possible to eradicate some feeling, such as fear and the instinct for self-preservation (and then use such clones as a military force in artificial bodies). Of course, this will already be a different person, but what if someone wants to "photoshop" themselves - remove an unwanted personality trait, make themselves smarter, or something like that. A kind of mind makeover.
It is even possible to create a human personality from scratch for the purpose of exploitation. One example I gave above is a person without fear or self-preservation instinct, unconditionally obeying orders - an ideal soldier. This kind of artificial intelligence can also be used for any other purpose. It will be like a robot, only in a living body and with a much richer personality. Or a poor one, it depends on the goals and the program. But if the personality is greatly simplified, it will have little in common with a human one, and in fact, a creature with such a program can be considered a bio-robot. This is exactly one of those that we often see in science fiction films or books (the first thing that comes to mind is "I, Robot"). I just approached this artificial intelligence program from a different angle. And I probably acted illogically, because in any case, such robots will appear first, possibly not biological, but technical ones. And only then will they make copies of people's personalities and place them in biological shells, if they do.

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This is the only way to make a "digital" clone (if possible). No more. Perhaps a clone with the memory of the original.
But to revive a real person in this way - I doubt it.

Why not? If programmed as I wrote, it is possible. But I'm afraid that this will not happen in the near future.

Guys, what are your thoughts on the origin of life on Earth?

Freud, wouldn't you like to join our discussion? It started on the previous page.

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We are discussing the possibility of converting a person into binary code.

Just to start another holy war about immortality?
I'm just curious if there are any creationists among us.

[22:26:36] Lord Mortulus: Klov, I want to sleep
[22:26:43] Lord Mortulus: it's time to go to bed, I have to work tomorrow
[22:27:05] Imaris: if you were converted into a digital form, you could create a body for yourself that doesn't need sleep, and then upload your personality into it.
[22:27:25] Lord Mortulus: that wouldn't be me, it would be a clone
[22:27:31] Lord Mortulus: I repeat this again

Good topic.

A person who has been cloned – no matter how – will still consider themselves to be the original. For the original, the clone is just a clone, but for the clone, it is the original. After all, it has its own memory, its own life. Despite the fact that it was just created, it feels as if it has lived for many years.
Therefore, I believe that excuses like "it won't be me, it will be a clone" are meaningless. In reality, there will be two people, not one, if, of course, the first one remains alive (we are considering a situation with ordinary, "living" human cloning). Each of them will truly be independent. Now, let's imagine that a person is "digitalized," and the next day, they somehow die. Their copy is transferred back to reality and placed in a body. The copy will not even know that the original has died, if it is not told, because the memory remains the same – up to the moment of the person's death. And this clone will not differ in any way from the person who lived before; it will think the same way, have the same memory, the same character, everything will be the same. Therefore, the phrase "it's not the same person anymore, it's a clone," although true, will not carry much meaning, because the person has remained the same.

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I definitely won't start any flame wars, but Mortulus is already going to sleep, and then he'll work all day, so we have almost 24 hours >:3
By the way, he can bring any topic to the question of immortality, so don't worry and join the discussion.

I started another topic on the previous page that has some common features with yours, but no one wanted to discuss it.

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Come on, Freud, I'm interested in your opinion.

Translating human personalities into machine code?
It's an interesting concept. It depends on how you look at it – as translating a person's consciousness into machine code or as creating this entity based on a sample.

I explained it in detail above. The translation of a person's consciousness into machine code by creating this entity based on a sample, something like that.

Understood.
Here, the ethical aspect of the issue raises concerns. The knowledge that your PC possesses your own consciousness (figuratively speaking) is frightening.