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19 years ago
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AmberSoler;59177
Dear sir, whether you "believe it or not" is not up to me ;)

I checked first, and then reported – gargoyles join for 240,000, vampires for 180,000, liches for 180,000... :D Moreover, they can do this on the first day of the game if you have the money, a diplomacy expert, and a strong army... As for the army and diplomacy, it takes a maximum of three weeks, which was the case in the "Impossible" save, and in your save, everything comes down to having enough funds, which is practically impossible to achieve...
Well, I don't know, the army seemed strong... there was nowhere to put the money (only sulfur was lacking), they didn't join any of them – neither liches, nor gargoyles, nor vampires (they did join me in a rough playthrough for a certain sum, but it took about 13 months)... that's all.
And I tried it on Impossible... I don't know.... I cleared my starting island in about 1-1.5 weeks (if it doesn't glitch) with two heroes... then I ran out of patience and switched to Normal...
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Well, I don't know, the army seemed strong... there was plenty of money, but not enough sulfur. We didn't join any faction, not Liches, not Gargoyles, not Vampires...
The army needs to have a unit that matches the faction – then they will join...
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19 years ago
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Sage;59146

By the way, you can simply bypass this event: there's a free space to the south of it.
It seems the leader did just that. And I managed to recruit a little over a hundred skeletons from AlexPunk's guard there :)

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I checked first, and then reported - gargoyles join for 240,000, vampires for 180,000, liches for 180,000... :D And they can do it on the first day of the game if you have the money, an expert in diplomacy, and a strong army... As for the army and diplomacy, it's a matter of a maximum of three weeks, which is what happened in the "Impossible" save, and in your save, everything comes down to having the finances, which is practically impossible to achieve...
I don't quite understand. Vampires and liches surrendered to me for free, and I even have saves before attacking them. AmberSoler, did the gargoyles surrender to you for money?
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"Impossible" turned out to be much easier than "Normal"... :D Well, never mind, let's not dwell on the past... :D
It's not a factor that concerns many people :) Normal is normal. Impossible is impossible. And that's it here. They already lost prizes, grail, and rating from VDV for no reason :) With my rating, this won't quite work :)
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19 years ago
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IronAxe;59193
I don't quite understand. For me, both the Vampires and Liches surrendered for free, and I even have saves before attacking them. AmberSoler, did the Gargoyles surrender for money for you?
What do your Vampires and Liches have to do with it? :) Raper had a completely different save; no one joined his faction for free... That's what we're talking about – that on "Normal" difficulty, there was no freebie... :D
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Ta Kotoraya...;59180
And one more thing – I would like to ask everyone about the tactics for killing ifrits (I didn't do this quest myself, although I saw it. The reason is that I lost more troops killing ifrits than I gained in the end. The reason is their incredibly strong fire shield. So, how did you all do it?)
Personally, I didn't do it at all. I didn't go there. Join my request to the leader to upload saves before the corresponding battles. We'll try to complete these battles and exchange opinions and achievements. If it doesn't work, we'll ask the leader for explanations. That's what learning will be like.

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What do your vampires and liches have to do with it? :) Raper had a completely different save, no one joined him for free... Which is what we're talking about, that there was no easy way on "Normal"... :D
What's the catch? Why do they only surrender for money on Normal? Was it due to the map, or specifically because it was NORMAL?
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I generally passed through, only joining Troglodytes, Dragonflies, and Dwarves at the start, and Ghost Dragons and Death Knights later.
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Ta Kotoraya...;59180

And one more thing – I would like to ask everyone about the tactics for killing ifrits (I didn't do this quest myself, although I saw it. The reason is that I lost more troops killing ifrits than I gained in the end. The reason is their incredibly strong fire shield. So, how did you all do it?)
It strongly depends on the army. I had a couple of azure dragons ensure the first turn, and several times "fear" was triggered on the enemy. Then I had the Cursed Armor – slowing down the enemy. Gargoyles (level 1) removed the retaliation, and then upgraded vampires finished everything – and they are almost immune to the Fire Shield... :)

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IronAxe;59205

What's the deal? Why do they only surrender for money on normal difficulty? Did it depend on the map, or was it specifically because it was NORMAL difficulty?
The probability of neutral units surrendering is recalculated each time when the save is generated... Normal and Impossible are two different saves, which means that units surrender differently, different artifacts are on the map, and in the Utopias... On Impossible, there were three free surrenders, and on Normal – none...
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Ta Kotoraya...;59180
And one more thing - I would like to ask everyone about the tactics for killing ifrits (I didn't do this quest myself, although I did see it. The reason is that I lost more troops killing ifrits than I gained in the end. The reason is their incredibly strong fire shield. So, how did you all do it?)

Soon I will share the tactics for killing them;) without losses:)

I'm wondering if I'll have time to write a complete description in 4 days, or not?
Maybe it's not needed by anyone?
(I just had a completely different main tactic than all the other players):)

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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Sage;59214
I generally completed it, only recruiting Troglodytes, Dragon Flies, and Dwarves at the start, and Ghost Dragons and Death Knights later on.

And I also recruited Liches;) , the rest I didn't notice, and they were unnecessary anyway, honestly.
I know exactly where I lost a week:( , but I didn't replay it, there was no time:(
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When there’s only one save file for everyone, there somehow aren’t any arguments… :D :smile19:
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My main strategy was to get to the island with the Dungeon castles as quickly as possible (there are two of them there), and in the lower one, there was a BERSERKER!
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING - I'M REVEALING MY TACTIC - TO BE HONEST, IT WAS A COMPLETE SURPRISE FOR ME!
Which, for some reason, no one took advantage of:( :)

After building an artifact merchant, in the FIRST MONTH, I found the GOLDEN BOW artifact! And that was it:)

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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...Which, for some reason, no one used. :(
Everyone had different artifacts at the merchant...
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After building an artifact merchant, in the FIRST MONTH, I found the GOLDEN BOW artifact! That's basically it.

Sincerely, VDV_forever
Actually, I also found it at the beginning of the map (I don't remember where), but it's a FACT.
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AmberSoler;59231
Everyone had different artwork for the merchant...
But here, you're wrong; in the FIRST MONTH, they are IDENTICAL :) :D :smile13: or am I mistaken?
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So, what about the rating – did you get it?
And what’s with the Golden Bow – does it deal a lot of damage?

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And here you are wrong, in the FIRST MONTH – they are the SAME:) :D :smile13: or am I mistaken?
By the way, my main Celt, as soon as he went out to sea, rushed towards two Dragon Fortresses, just like you, and started taking out Berserkers and Wandering Eagles. But I built the Merchants much later – almost at the end of the game.

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