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Actually, he was defeated in campaign 6...

Well, yes, but they didn't kill him. Because the Overlord is immortal, and Relag, Findan, and Zephyr will definitely die sometime, either they will be killed (like Godric) or they will die of old age, and the Overlord will live much longer than them.
P.S. 20 years ago, the Seriy Soyuz (Alexey, Alaron, and Sirius) also defeated the Overlord, and what happened to them? They killed everyone. Heroes come and go, but the Overlord is eternal:confused:
P.P.S. I personally like Agrael-Relag more (probably because of my personal sympathy for the Elves). But Findan is also a great hero, so it's hard to decide.

The Overlord was killed by everyone together.

The quartet of Railag, Zehir, Railag, and Faydaen is also very strong. It was they who defeated the Overlord himself.

He was actually defeated in the 6th campaign...

Actually, Agrail knelt before the power of the Overlord, Zehir is still a young one, Arantir was defeated by Sareth, and Sareth himself knelt before Kha-Beleth, and there's nothing to say about Faydaen...

Regarding the battle between the Overlord and the four. I think Kha-Beleth deliberately surrendered to allow the heroes to leave with the false Isabel. Otherwise, how can we explain that the huge demonic army did not participate in the battle with these four? If the Overlord wanted their death, I don't think they would have calmly left Sheogh. Moreover, Kha-Beleth achieved what he wanted - the Messiah will soon be born, and the Overlord's best agent, in the guise of the queen, rules the Empire.

I think that Agrail didn't bow to anyone, but when he "joined the service," he pursued his own goals.

There is no canonical information about Saretha; in 2 out of 4 endings, Saretha chooses her mother's side.

Did he deliberately surrender?! And disgrace himself before all of Shi'o? And release the rulers of the 4 main powers and his mortal enemies from his lair?!

The huge demonic army was defeated by an equally huge combined force.

The best agent certainly caused a lot of trouble, but one of the results of his activities was the destruction of almost all demonic sects and cults in Ashan, so it is very unlikely that Kha-Beleth would have surrendered in battle for the dubious opportunity to put Biara on the throne of the Empire for a short time.

and to unite Erathia and become the second lord of all of Erathia after Belketh – not everyone can do that, so I wouldn't underestimate Arantir.

He entered the service of the Overlord to escape his enemies. Agrail was a demon worshiper; he had no choice but to submit to Kha-Beleth. If Agrail hadn't feared the Overlord, he would have thwarted all his plans regarding Isabel long ago.

Still, he did submit in one instance.

To be humiliated? By whom? By his miserable subjects?

As he said: "I will win the war."

How then do you explain the incredibly large army that Biara has in the Claw? And what about the other demon armies scattered throughout Ashan? Such armies cannot possibly recover in numbers, even by half, in just six months. Kha-Beleth has been gathering this army for over 20 years, and he couldn't have lost it in a single day.

he trusted Biara

Arantir wouldn't have gone any further if it hadn't been for the orcs, who tied Alaric's hands.

Kha-Beleth was counting on Biara, in the person of Isabel, to be "serious and long-lasting."

Arantir is a fanatical fool; he became a Lord not because of his superhuman strength, but because of the weakness of the other necromancers.

The one who is much stronger is Markel. Markel was the most famous necromancer, the strongest of them, and, of course, the most cunning. He was the only one who could raise thousands of skeletons and dozens of dragons, and at the same time legitimize the existence of such an army, and where – in the Holy Empire! He killed the strongest mage of the Silver Cities, managed to lock Godric in a dungeon, and waged a successful war on as many as four fronts! And at the same time, he protected himself with powerful magic.

Kha-Belekh deliberately surrendered.

Deliberately surrendered!? And disgraced himself throughout Shio? And released the rulers of the four major powers of Ashan and his mortal enemies from his lair?!

But the fact that Kha-Belekh didn't see through him reflects poorly on the Overlord.

Zeheer is still young.

Nonsense, he couldn't even defeat a young, inexperienced orc mage.

If "seriously and for a long time" means a year at most, then his plan succeeded. It is simply impossible to count on anything longer - either Biara will simply be exposed, since the real Isabel appears in different corners of the Empire, or her "reforms" will simply cease to be tolerated, including by the army, and they will decide to put Frida/Duncan/some duke on the throne.

Trusted!? Demons are not particularly trusting, and the Overlord even less so, especially after Agral's betrayal.

Yes, he found a wonderful way out of the situation—he saved himself and became the right hand of the Overlord; there is nothing shameful or bad about that. However, the fact that Kha-Beleth didn't see through him reflects poorly on the Overlord.
That Agrail wasn't afraid of Kha-Beleth and even dared to be insolent to him is as clear as day, and there are many confirmations of this in the Campaigns and the scenario.
And why would he need to thwart his plans? He didn't even know that Isabel was supposed to give birth to a messiah; his only task was surveillance. And besides, Railag/Agrail ruined quite a few of Kha-Beleth's plans later on.

Well, if that's the case, he didn't bow, he joined
And anyway, the prophecy of Sar-Shazzar says that the demon lords will bow before the Dark Messiah, so who bowed to whom is still a question.

Among these "pitiful subjects," there are quite a few demon lords like Agrail (i.e., ambitious), and could the thought of the Overlord's vulnerability have crept into their minds? He wouldn't risk the threat of a rebellion and a subsequent civil war just before the birth of the Messiah.

But so far he hasn't won anything, quite the opposite. Aside from the birth of Sareth, he has nothing to boast about yet.

Did I say that the entire army was crushed? And could the entire demonic army be in one place? As I noted above, Kha-Beleth simply has a huge army, but all of Sheo couldn't be in one place at one moment. The quartet defeated all the troops the Overlord had at that moment, and not even the Demon Lord can summon the entire army instantly.

If "seriously and for a long time" means a year maximum, then his plan succeeded. It's simply impossible to count on more—either Biara will simply be exposed, since the real Isabel flickers in various corners of the Empire, or her "reforms" will simply stop being tolerated, including by the army, and they will decide to put Frida/Duncan/some duke on the throne.

Well yes, for over 100 years no one could unify Erish; probably all the necromancers were just very strong, and as soon as Arantir appeared in the light, everyone immediately weakened
Fighting through half the lands of the Empire and the Silver Cities is also not the most difficult task.
And the fact that he removed a complex spell from Isabel's spirit with a wave of his hand—a spell apparently cast by the Overlord himself—or smashed the Dark Messiah against the wall at the first meeting (as well as the not-so-weak vampire Giovanni), is that actually a sign of his weakness?

I also find it hard to believe that the Overlord surrendered, but his line at the end of mission 6 of Campaign 6, "You have won the battle, but you will lose the war," doesn't sound like suffering from defeat.

He figured it out. Campaign 2, mission 1, the Overlord accuses Agrael of infidelity and orders Erazeal to kill him.

Gotai did the same thing as Arantir: he united the disparate orc tribes.

he traveled with an army through the Griffin Empire, which speaks to his talent as a commander.

Frida is Godric's daughter, who was Isabelle's bodyguard.

It has already been written above that Agrael was figured out.

On the contrary, Sareth yielded.

And the prophecy says: "And the horned lords will bow before him who is not yet born of the lord of darkness."

All demons recognized the supremacy of Kha-Beleth and did not doubt their Overlord.

And he can boast. At least that the Griffin Empire ceased to exist, the Griffin dynasty perished, and the new Unicorn Empire lies in ruins. And also Irollan, the Silver Cities, Igg-Shail, and Grimheim were devastated. By the way, all these countries were beheaded. The results are not bad.

As far as I know, the Overlord always kept legions with him.

The Overlord is the most powerful demon, and believe me, he can control the summoning of his own troops in minutes, especially on his territory, in his native element.

Markel united Erathia.

I don't think the spell was difficult.

And the Dark Messiah was a human at that time.

But not immediately, and only when Agrail's betrayal became obvious; before that, Agrail was the Overlord's right hand and most trusted agent, and the Overlord suspected him of nothing criminal)
I'll repeat once more that it was impossible not to figure him out after the blatant betrayal. So, no particular insight was needed here. Agrail/Railag needed to be exposed before making him the right hand.

The keyword here is "bow." I know another text: "And the lords of demons shall bow their heads before the one who is born." This is all due to translation issues, of course, but the fact that they will bow is present in all texts.

There is no such thing in either the single-player scenario or the game.

Wasn't it Xana who kept whispering to Sarett about overthrowing the Overlord and ruling Sheo and Ashan?
And after the Overlord's defeat, the demons could well have thought about seizing power. After all, some mere humans beat Kha-Belekh, so why are we any worse?

To this, one must add the crushing of elite demonic armies first in the war with Isabel, then in their own lair and during the siege of the Claw. Demonic cults in all countries have been liquidated, and in all countries, power was taken by young, energetic rulers who organized an absolute alliance against the demons. Indeed, the results are not bad)

Legions—yes. But not the entire army. That's simply impossible.

Extremely powerful, but not omnipotent. Moreover, he directly took part in the battle and could not concentrate on summoning troops.

Markel united only the part of Erathia bordering the Empire and the necromancers of Mythograd under his rule; he was never the Lord of Erathia.

If that's the case, why wasn't he dispelled by the last knight of the Dragon Order and the head of Igg-Shaila, Railag, who undoubtedly knew about him from Isabel?

Someone who had 20 years of training under a powerful sorcerer, a capable assistant, combat experience and one-on-one fighting experience, and the Skull of Shadows was in his hands. So he was a serious opponent.[

He will win the war if Sareth sides with him. Everything has its time. And he can boast. At least that the Griffin Empire ceased to exist, the Griffin dynasty perished, and the new Unicorn Empire lies in ruins. And also, Irolan, the Silver Cities, Igg-Shail, and Grimheim were devastated. By the way, all these countries were beheaded. The results are not bad.

Actually, he is all-powerful. The strongest demon. He is the embodiment of Urgash.

What if the legions are not enough to crush this quartet?
In the game itself, in mission 5 of Campaign 6, did you fight against the legions? There are very few troops there, and they don't attack all at once, but one after another. If the legions of demons, which, by the way, are always present near Ur-Hekal, participated in the battle, the outcome of the battle would be diametrically opposite.

The Overlord only destroyed the Empire. Irollan and the Silver Cities were defeated by Markel, Grimheim was beaten by the Imperials (and not just the red ones operating under Kha-Beleth, but also the rebels led by Frida). Igg-Shail, one could say, helped the Overlord's plans until Railag conquered him. The rulers, yes, perished, but new ones took their place. Zehir, Faydaen, Railag, Wulfsten, Frida with Duncan – in my opinion, the states didn't lose anything with their arrival.

Could you elaborate on the "embodiment of Urgash"? I don't remember that.

Depending on what you consider legions. What you described are gameplay features. In fact, the legions of the alliance clashed with the legions of demons. And the demons were defeated. Perhaps this was part of the Overlord's plan, but he probably wouldn't have deployed small forces.