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Posts from Турниры HeroesWorld Cup & World Cup - 2012
After hosting the 2010 World Championship and Interportal 2011, he really indulged in his achievements. He needs something even bigger, but he realized that he can't do it alone. Yes, he could continue to push and wait for a programmer-savior to appear or even learn something himself, but he doesn't have that much enthusiasm for developing the international Heroes of Might and Magic III community.
I believe that the procedure for reviewing cheating cases could borrow some principles from jurisprudence. For example, presenting an "accusation" in a standardized form (on the forum as a detailed post, rather than in the game) and giving the "accused" the opportunity to provide detailed explanations for all the presented facts in the same format (on the forum) BEFORE a decision is made.
I completely agree with you))) Write a couple of "formal complaints" in the standard format about Rebel, we'll have them approved by an authorized person, and we'll accept them for consideration within the established timeframe of 5 business days. Otherwise, Rebel has been playing without such complaints for 8 years – so it's not a fact that he hasn't started – 1-2 suspicious moves are already a serious reason.
I completely agree with you))) Write a couple of "complaints" in the standard format about Rebel, we'll have them approved by an authorized person, and we'll consider them within the established timeframe, within 5 business days. Otherwise, Rebel has been playing without such complaints for 8 years – so there's no guarantee that he hasn't started – 1-2 suspicious moves are already a serious reason.
I try not to go to extremes. And I advise you to do the same.
Награда: Лучшему игроку сезона Осень 2009 за замок Конфлюкс
after hosting WC2010 and Interportal2011, I really got fed up with what I had achieved. I need something even cooler, but I realized that I can't do more on my own. Yes, I could keep beating a dead horse and wait for a programmer-savior to come along, or even learn something myself, but I don't have a strong enough obsession with developing the international HoMM3 community.
My opinion: Sticky, focus only on tournaments; they will help Heroes exist at a more fulfilling level (I don't know how to say it, but without such tournaments, it would be much duller and less interesting overall)... if you try to put in too much effort all at once, you might lose the desire to do anything at all! I believe that such tournaments are already important events in themselves, perhaps even more so than creating the 1st portal. Because the language barrier between players will be difficult to remove. Also, I think strong players from other sites could be attracted to HeroesWorld (Marreti plays, and many have played with him — it was interesting and fun, no one complained).
After hosting the 2010 World Championship and Interportal 2011, he really got complacent with what he achieved. He needs something even bigger, but he realized that he can't do it alone. Yes, he could continue to push forward and wait for a savior programmer to appear, or even learn something himself, but he doesn't have that much passion for developing the international HoMM3 community.
That's how it works in life – you work hard and persistently on something for a long time, and only after a while (often a significant amount of time) do others start working on it with you, and then even instead of you. There are many examples of this in Heroes as well.
As for "getting complacent with what he achieved" – the goal of any creator is to bring their creation to a state of self-sustainability. If a project dies out along with your enthusiasm, it means that nothing significant has been achieved. It's like trying to start a fire in the rain – once it reaches a certain temperature, the fire no longer cares whether it's raining or not. But before that, it only exists as long as someone is tending to it.
So, don't try to come up with excuses for why you don't want to, just do what needs to be done. You'll thank yourself later. And you'll remember the "lack of passion" with a smile, for sure
Hmm, that's great – for those with a corresponding taste, it's the best game in its genre, and in my opinion, one of the best all-around, deep games.
But, in any case, it's "just" a game in which we try to realize our hidden desires (for power, glory, exclusivity, etc.), which we may not be able to realize in the desired measure, or not at all, in real life.
Maybe that's even for the better; Sticky will have time for something truly useful – family, children, and so on.
To elevate organizing tournaments, even for a game like HoMM3, to the level of a goal and make it the top priority, and to spend so much time on it, is, in my opinion, not very rational from the point of view of real life, plus to get a bucket of negativity in return for possible mistakes – which are part of our natural nature; a person cannot help but make mistakes.
Plus, Sticky wrote that he's had enough, everything is correct; all processes – any activity in the material world goes through four stages – hunger, satiety, over-saturation, and disgust, and then, after some time, if the taste remains, hunger comes again.
In the previous heated debate, we discussed (by the way, I think Vic was pushing this idea) that you can play against a cheater with an open map (by cheating yourself).
I think Rebel might have done this in a game against Black Knight, whom most serious players consider a cheater.
Although, in the Rebel-Pit game, I doubt he was cheating (I know Rebel personally – he's a normal guy, without any malice).
Therefore, the lesson for the future for everyone is – it's better not to cheat against cheaters; let it be on their conscience, although you can raise a fuss and talk openly about your suspicions – for me, it's Oelm, Britvotchka, and now Fell from FB-6 has been added, who played with two instances of the game running when playing against Spiel.
Regarding the tournament – it needs to be finished; otherwise, it will severely damage the global Heroes community. As it is, it's good PR and attracts more players. For example, almost no one knows about the Koreans, Americans, and Brazilians, but believe me, they can easily beat any of our "daddies."
Regarding Rebel – I would advise only to remove him from the World Championship (which they already did, and it would be awkward to bring him back), but not to impose any other sanctions or penalties.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
Regarding the tournament – it needs to be finished, otherwise it will severely damage the global Heroes community. Otherwise, it's good PR and attracts more players. For example, almost no one knows about the Koreans, Americans, and Brazilians, but believe me, they can easily beat any of our "pros."
We've all seen how the Chinese "easily beat" everyone... Now I'm convinced that you were right to shout from all corners that they are the best in the world.
Roma, your comments are not constructive. :) Any communication, even with cheaters, is a form of progress, not stagnation. :) For example, after interacting with the Chinese players, we gained momentum – we developed a lighter for SOD, learned about their communication style on their forums, and gained an understanding that we could play more than just skirmishes (which was all we were playing at the time, along with HL templates on Battle.net). There is still a lot of interesting things to learn from the Americans, for example. And you shouldn't judge everyone based on 1-2 cheaters; believe me, there are noble Chinese players (warriors, as someone here said, not merchants).
P.S. There are no "best Heroes players in the world." I was shouting that, not saying that there are some super-duper "great Alexes." And I was shouting that many players have already reached the limit in the game.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
For example, after interacting with the Chinese community, we gained momentum – we developed a lighter for SOD, learned about their communication style on their forums, and got an idea that you can play more than just small maps.
Yeah, it's a balance template. Which is all they play. And the map is Desert War.
Very "masterful" template, this "balance." How much is actually in that name. Wow!
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
They have indeed reached their limit. But I would like to see how they handle a closed map as well. Until I see that — excuse me. Stinger, Alex, Bayazet, Pit, and everyone, everyone, everyone will be the best Heroes players for me...
Don't give me that talk about templates. People played Panic, Balance, and Jebus Cross before them. Only the lazy and the conservatives didn't try them. Lighter really did originate from them, as did the school of playing Cove. But I guess I truly am unable to grasp the connection between Lighter and cheaters.
A little off-topic, something just came to mind...
It happened during the Korean War in 1950-53. American soldiers who were captured were held in a Chinese prison. Apparently, there was one near the border with China. The prison wasn't particularly harsh, and it didn't have any of the stereotypical "Asian horrors." But the soldiers had nothing to do, so they just sat around. Then, the prison administration, wanting to keep the prisoners occupied, suggested they participate in a contest. It wasn't a difficult task; they had to come up with a certain number of arguments supporting the idea of communism. I don't know the specifics, maybe they sang some political songs or something... At first, the Americans refused, but then they gradually got involved. They were given a certain number of cigarettes for winning and participating... and praising communism didn't seem like such a betrayal.
However, when these soldiers returned home after the war, they generally didn't see anything wrong with communism anymore, and some even claimed that American democracy had many flaws compared to communism. It was quite difficult to convince them otherwise, because during their time in prison, they had come up with many arguments in favor of communism and had convinced themselves of the superiority of this system. By the way, it was around this time that the term "brainwashing" appeared.
...just like the school of gameplay for the Moon faction.
This is more of a shortcoming of our community. Kostya promoted the Moon faction long before the Chinese demonstrations, but no one listened to him. Although, you can't deny their ability to present the product well – the videos are excellent, and considering the volume/quality ratio, they are, in general, perfect.
How is the evidence base analyzed? It is analyzed using logic.
The evidence base either exists or it doesn't, Yur)). Logic has nothing to do with it. You end up with: had the opportunity and the motive = guilty
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And as a person directly involved in practical jurisprudence, I can confidently state that a professional court will side with the one who presents the case clearly and concisely, like a mathematical theorem, rather than with emotional "Aquarians," whom we are used to seeing in foreign films, usually with an impact on the viewer and the jury.
StickyFingaz
