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I was also leaning towards your side, but now I'm sorry, it's not meant to be.
At least he apologized...
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P.S. Roma, do you remember the red balloon in Dragon Utopia?:)
(I gave this example to both Stiki and Pete, that one shouldn't jump to conclusions from the saves themselves, but should evaluate the explanations).
I remember that game because I analyzed the saves while I was in AK at the time. Sometimes even illogical actions can be given a reasonable explanation.
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Reviewed the save files: 1. A classic example of the genre – discovering a strategic utopia in the corner of the map without scouting (Greetings, Britva!). It would be interesting to hear Rebchik's explanation regarding this. 2. Even after looking at the second save, it seems he followed almost the same path. It's just funny. 3. A box with a level 2 Agi creature. With maphack, I don't think it's worth bothering with it. 4. Strange, but nothing more. 5. It's more unclear what Reb was doing before turn 132 on that small part of the map and why his development was so poor compared to his moves afterward. But without the other save files, it's hard to say anything. If I were given control from turn 132, I would play the same way, except I would definitely grab the chest near the Necropolis and upgrade all the creatures, not just half of them (and in general, I wouldn't upgrade them, but try to buy as many as possible). I wouldn't give up the Dungeon with the utopia and run to the corner Treasury almost ever.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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In reply to Pit for LM
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I watched the replays. Yesterday I was also watching the game and was surprised that the Chinese player was very timely at his Castle with a full army and ready....now it turns out that he didn’t even see what ГО he had, and there wasn’t a single view either...so the logic of breaking off and returning home from an unfinished and, most importantly, unexplored Treasury is extremely unclear...On top of that, on day 121 he takes a two-Griffin Conservatory which shows as 2-4 and doesn’t send a scout hero there to check....and the maximum, imho, definitely wasn’t taken with his army on day 121...And the games with Tírex’s skill tree choices are also unclear....Well, and the question is, who did he leave the other two Conservatories at his respawn for, why didn’t he take them immediately (especially considering that the far one was a single, but he didn’t check it either)? In short, a shady story....
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I looked at the saves. Yesterday I was also watching the game and was surprised that the Chinese player was very timely at his castle with a full army and ready....now it turns out that he didn't even see what ГО he had and there wasn't a single review either...so the point of rushing back home from an unfinished and, most importantly, unexplored treasury is extremely unclear...Plus, on 121 he takes a Griffin Conservatory-two, which shows up as 2-4 and doesn't send a scout there to check....and the maximum, imho, definitely wasn't taken with his army on 121...And the games with Terek's skill tree path are also unclear....Well, and the question, who did he leave the other 2 conservatories for at his respawn, why didn't he take them immediately (especially considering that the far one was a single, but he didn't check it either)? In short, a shady story....
I also got the impression that initially an ideal trajectory was chosen, and then successfully executed

It's time to rename the tournament to CheaterWorldCup 2012 )))

PS by the way, before these saves I hadn't thought about it, but in my 2nd game with him there was also a similar moment: he emerges into the center almost without an army and boldly rotates there. If my hero had been nearby, even with a medium army and medium skill level, it would have meant ГГ.
I should take another look at his saves
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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Even without seeing the game, if Tinker was reviewing Gomunguls's moves, he would have seen him take the breastplate, but this action could only have ALERTED him, not made him rush home. Besides, it would have been more logical to do it on the last day, so that on the first day he could move further with the increase. Also, one of the outposts remained unexplored for a long time, although Tinker cleared the guard immediately, and then, after a few days, immediately went into another one. In general, there are judges, let's see what happens next.
In reply to StickyFingaz
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Does anyone have any information regarding the incident at the World Championship?
1. Why did this come to light only after 2.5 months?
2. Why isn't the issue of replaying the matches of black_knight and yarzapp being raised? After all, according to the judges' conclusions about maphacking, both of them are victims. And one of them should play against Pit for LM for the right to compete in the next round.
I don't understand where the logic is in disqualifying one player for "unfair play" and then immediately removing two more from the bracket, even though they seemed to be playing fairly. In this situation, the stories about a lack of time for games, etc., are really laughable. And if someone decided to voluntarily give up their spot, where can we read about that?
As a regular viewer, I find this very interesting!!! (Moving players to another bracket is also not entirely the right solution)
Although the main question is in point 1.
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It's clear that the ideal route to the treasure chest from the explored area was the exit from the Inferno spawn point, which was located near the city. It led to an unclear path towards the enemy's secondary base. However, this treasure chest didn't seem particularly interesting, and the path to the second Necropolis secondary base, which took 3 heroes to break through, wasn't cleared, in my opinion, for no apparent reason. The path to the treasure chest near the Necropolis was very close, and it would have been logical for the opponent to go through the Necropolis exit to the empty treasure chest instead of going through the grass to an unknown location. The skill tree consisted of attack, tactics, defense, earth, and logistics – these were the first five skills. Any player would have taken earth, especially given the unfavorable position on the spawn point and the number of counters. Since he was going to get defense after earth anyway, he preferred to take defense and upgrade logistics, as they would have been more useful at that moment than an un-upgraded earth skill, which he would have gotten regardless. It's surprising that a player of that level didn't take earth immediately.
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1. Why did this only come up after 2.5 months?
because accusing a player of cheating requires more than just one match. I told Black Knight that 2.5 months ago.
it's really funny
no, it's not funny. I won't extend the tournament for 2 months; that's too long. It's actually funnier to give a win in the semi-finals without a game!

now, regarding moving Pete from the lower bracket to the upper bracket. He played against a cheater and lost in an unfair match, and since there's still time, I can change the situation, unlike Black and Yarzap's games. I think this is a fair decision. For example, you can look at cycling races where those who came in second can be awarded gold medals half a year later because the winner was caught doping.
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Garret
1. Why did this issue only surface after 2.5 months?
Although the main question is in point 1.
and after this question, the following call logically follows:
OURS ARE BEING BEATEN!!!
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Can anyone shed some light on the incident at the World Championship:
1. Why did this come to light only after 2.5 months?
2. Why isn't the issue of replaying the games of players black_knight and yarzapp being raised? After all, according to the judges' conclusions about maphacking, both of them are victims. And one of them should play against Pit for LM for the right to compete in the next round.
I don't understand where the logic is in disqualifying one player for "unfair play" and immediately removing two more from the bracket, who, as far as I can tell, played fairly. In this situation, the stories about a lack of time for games, etc., are really funny. And if someone decided to voluntarily give up their place, where can we read about it?
As a regular viewer, I find this very interesting!!! (Moving players to another bracket is also not entirely the right solution)
Although the main question is in point 1.
Everything is correct.
Now, it seems, there is a new problem with a highly respected player from China.
If he is also cheating (and, in my opinion, there is more compromising evidence in one of his games than in all of Rebellius's games), then personally, I feel "hurt and offended." It turns out that I, like an idiot, honestly played with him, played, was very upset because of what seemed like bad luck, and also asked why I played so badly... and it turns out he was CHEATING!!))) And there are many such victims.
Since 2 arguments were enough to sink Rebellius, there are at least 2 in the game Gomunguls vs. the Chinese player - Stiky, investigate
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
In reply to StickyFingaz
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StickyFingaz
I think this is a fair solution. For example, you can look at cycling races where those who came in second place can be awarded gold medals six months later because the winner was caught doping.
This is not the same: in the final, everything is clear - one person was caught, and they are disqualified. But in the middle of the tournament, it's more complicated. And regarding the statement that one match is not enough, it is 50% true. It seems like yes, but the game is played to two wins. So, two games are also not enough. And how do you decide how many are enough?
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Guys, the BRAINS behind this game, the inquisitive MINDS... wouldn't it be a good idea for you to analyze all of Pete's games (or Chelsea's, which also didn't deserve to win against Barcelona, Drogba clearly ran in the wrong direction there) under a microscope, and MAYBE then Sir Matrix will have to play against Mike... :smile01:
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Sticks, get to work.
Yes, of course, we will sort it out.
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I wouldn't even be surprised about the Chinese player. They are willing to do a lot to win. They even told us that in the last match against China.

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