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#4104
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That's exactly right. If someone says they are a member of the Stronghold faction and they haven't been banned, then they are lying. If someone says they are a member of the Dungeon faction and they haven't been banned, then they are lying.
ВАГИАНТ!Отчасти вампир, отчасти гигант.
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#4105
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That's exactly right. If someone says they are a Druid, and they aren't modkilled, then they are lying. If someone says they are Gollum, and they aren't modkilled, then they are lying.
Yeah, and this role definitely isn't **for everyone**. In Tox's case, the Mafia role remains 100% obvious for him, and it will be clear to absolutely anyone, practically documented in the rules. It's a harsh reveal.


Барон
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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#4106
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Jack simply changed the rules; you can check it out, Zubr; they are a bit different with him. Usually, of course, you can't even lie like that.
 

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#4107
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Yes Jack, I already wrote about this in the thread about your mafia, and Zubr is absolutely right here. You made a complete mess.
Fie, Jack, we were all expecting a great game from you, the likes of which HeroesWorld had never seen, and you let us all down.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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#4108
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Jack simply changed the rules; you can check it out, Zubr; they are a little different with him. Usually, of course, you can't even lie like that.
Well, I'm just explaining that, from my point of view, it seems like the wrong decision.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#4109
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Yeah Jac, I already wrote about this in the thread about your mafia, but Zubr is completely right here. You made a total mess.
Ugh Jac, we were all expecting a great game from you, the likes of which HeroesWorld has never seen, and you let us all down like that.
Sorry for disappointing you.
ВАГИАНТ!Отчасти вампир, отчасти гигант.
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#4110
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So, are you suggesting that players should be banned for revealing another player's role?
А, вот почему.

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#4111
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Why do we "suggest" it? It's the standard.
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It is forbidden to reveal your own/another player's role, or its elements, as well as any information obtained about them, in public places or among players who are not in the same group as you. The same applies to information about other players. Phrases like "well, I also know something about him that I can't say" are a violation, regardless of whether you actually know something or are lying. Statements like "I checked," "according to my information, which I cannot disclose," "I know for sure," etc., are prohibited.
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...or are lying.
I don't know why Jack refused it.
 

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#4112
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So, we need to ask Jack which one he refused.
А, вот почему.

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#4113
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Gumer never revealed anyone’s role.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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#4115
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How could it not be? Everyone understood that he was an Ancient, which disrupted the flow of the game. Otherwise, he would have been eliminated.
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#4116
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But analyzing in the game is not prohibited. And Gur never gave any hints that he was a Dryad. Theoretically, he could have just been an indignant city dweller, because everyone knew that the healing for the Dryad didn't work that night.
 

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#4117
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If you read his post, you won't get the impression that he's thinking about a city.
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#4118
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Gur
Jack, yes. It is quite possible that "Sauron's ultimate ability bypasses everything," but why isn't this mentioned in the rules? The rules state the following: Sauron has a special ability called "Rod of Darkness," which allows him to ignore any protection. In the game "Mafia," protection refers to a player's inherent ability (role) to prevent negative actions or a "protection" action directed at that player by another player. A "protection" action can be of the following types:
1) The player using this action dies instead of the player targeted by the action.
2) Instead of the player targeted by the action, the attacker dies.
3) The negative action simply does not take effect.

Please add to the list if I missed something or correct me if I made a mistake.

There are other types of actions. For example: block, kill, HEAL, etc. So, block is not the same as protection, kill is not the same as protection, and healing is not the same as protection. Therefore, the healing action that the Ancient used tonight should have worked.

Jack, because of your mistake, the outcome of the game is being affected. In this case, it's the town. Of course, the town can still win. But if it weren't for your mistake, Frodo would be alive, and Sauron would be dead. You are personally depriving me of victory, judging by the votes against me right now. If the healing action that SHOULD HAVE WORKED had worked, Sauron would have died, and everyone would have understood that it wasn't me. Why are you depriving me of the opportunity to play a great game because of your mistake? Or do you think it's easy to figure out who was Frodo? The Ancient made a move that gave the town the best chance. And you, by changing the rules retroactively (?), or interpreting them as you see fit, are depriving the town of its best chance of winning.

Sincerely,
Gur


Jack, everything is written very clearly here. There is no violation of the rules. I have already expressed my opinion about the mod. My opinion has not changed at the moment.

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The Ancient's actions were described. The failure of the action was mentioned in the context of a possible hanging. If anyone disagrees, please point to Gur's quote, to the specific part of the quote.

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