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Are you ready to play an all-random tournament on XL+U templates using the scheme described above?
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Yes.
61.9% 13 votes
No.
38.1% 8 votes
Offline theShevanesian
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I have an idea to create an all-random tournament using XL+U templates (8MM6A, 8XM12A, 6LM10A). Everything would be fine, but I want both VT players and most of the SOD newcomers to participate, to introduce them to these enjoyable aspects. Moreover, the last two templates in SOD are quite unique due to the likely presence of many one-sided matchups. The idea is to play the tournament in the following format: each match between participants consists of TWO games by default - SOD and VT under SOD settings. If players of the same game version meet, two matches are played by default, but by mutual agreement, they can play only one (the score is set to 2:0). If an uncompromising SOD player and an uncompromising VT player meet and cannot agree on a version, then two games are played (VT with settings adapted for SOD and SOD). To gauge the community's attitude towards this idea, I'm starting a poll. Are you willing to play a tournament on XL+U templates using this scheme? Comments in the thread are welcome.
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Offline Scorpiona
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Guys, the question of holding the tournament itself is being raised here.
all-random tournament on XL+U templates (8MM6A, 8XM12A, 6LM10A)

The poll mainly concerns fans of playing on XL templates, so those who don't play them should refrain from voting for "NO" and simply abstain... and leave a comment in the thread...


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I think if you decide to hold a tournament, then go ahead and do it. All these polls just seem to drag things out. And there will always be people willing to participate in any tournament.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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XL+U templates are a confusing, tedious, and depressing mess.
В дикім полі
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Ready to play in garbage :) the top post is hilarious.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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R55Max
Ready to play in the "garbage" :) The top post is definitely funny.
Funny or not, but the picture is becoming clear. And the tournament promises to be interesting.

By the way, thank you for the comments, including those about the "garbage." All opinions are important.
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The idea is good, but the format with two versions is boring. It would be better to add a GM restructuring feature to SoD, and then we could play. The poll is unnecessary; it would have been better to simply open registration and cancel the tournament if not enough people signed up.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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Why not organize a tournament for full-fledged Warlord battles? I'm ready to create a short introductory manual.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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We need to implement a GM restructuring for Soda, and then we can play.
So, one-sided maps of 8x12 don't bother you at all? :)
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

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Offline R55Max
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theShevanesian
Whether it's good or not, the picture is becoming clear. And the tournament promises to be interesting.

By the way, thanks for the comments, including the one about "garbage." All opinions are important.
I wasn't referring to your post, but to Britva's post. I don't think HL templates are garbage.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Recently, I played against an opponent using the VT-8mm6a unit with a limit of 600+300. I captured the opponent's capital and a neighboring former computer-controlled castle that belonged to the opponent. I had more troops. However, it was difficult to catch him due to the map size and the presence of DD, TP, and flying units on the opponent's side. In the end, we ran around for a long time, I got tired of it, and we agreed to a draw. Therefore, I'm disappointed with large maps :), but I still play sometimes:).

I don't even want to comment on SOD with one-sided matchups, so, IMHO, only VT is viable.
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The idea is not bad, but the format with two versions is boring. It should be integrated with SOD to allow for GM restructuring, and then it would be playable.

In fact, nothing prevents playing one game if the versions are agreed upon with the opponent. One of the reasons for having two versions is to attract and involve newcomers in VT and these templates, while still keeping a number of strong VT players in the tournament.

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Oelm
Why not hold a tournament on full-VT? I'm ready to create a micro-intro-manual guide.

SOD players are afraid of experience, taxes, and classes like fire, I remember it myself)

A micro-manual guide would be very helpful!
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So, just organize a tournament for the Warlord mode right away if you're afraid of one-sided battles :D In Shades of Darkness, we played HL maps normally, and control was always maintained without any restructuring of the GM, even one-sided battles were used strategically; they are, in my opinion, a feature of the SoD 8x12 map. And if the idea is to introduce newcomers to the Warlord mode, it's unclear why the main version of SoD was chosen. You won't be able to please "both sides" in any case.
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Satyr
The idea is not bad, but the format with two versions is boring. It is necessary to add a GM rebuild to SOD, and then it would be possible to play.
The only thing I appreciate in VT is the GM rebuild!!!.

I remember a game on 8mm 33+ some day (almost 4 months), the entire map was cleared, 7 GMs were built, 5 of them were Towers with a library. (at the same time, all Cyclops were eaten), a huge number of Mermaids were eaten, a HUGE army!!! Legion statue + several native castles and stolen Bears + portals from 3-4 dungeons, but DD was never found... which led to the opponent's victory, he managed to run further in one turn...

So, if SOD + GM rebuild, then VT can be forgotten:D
Javdet
that is, one-way paths on 8x12 do not bother you at all? :)
One-way paths are still part of the map, separating the heroes from each other.
If there is an opportunity to get Flight or DD when rebuilding the GM, then there is no tension at all!!! Moreover, there is always a second way out, and one-way paths only force you to change direction.
Alessandro
Recently, I played with an opponent VT-8mm6a with a limit of 600+300. I captured the opponent's capital, and the neighboring former computer castle of the opponent. I have more troops. But it is problematic to catch him due to the size of the map and the presence of DD, TP, and Flight in the opponent. As a result, we ran around for a long time, I got tired and agreed to a draw. Therefore, I was disappointed in large maps :), but I still play sometimes:).

I don't even want to comment on SOD with one-way paths, so, IMHO, only VT.
He-He, and what is the GM rebuild for, and who prevented you from getting the same DD, TP, and Flight :confused: And if you don't want to run around the map, then this is really not your format:smile32: And SOD or VT has nothing to do with it.
theShevanesian

SOD players are afraid of experience, taxes, and classes like fire)
These are fairy tales invented by VT players))) not the right word, rather they treat them as absolutely unnecessary things in the game.


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bRitvo4kA
XL+U templates are confusing tedious dreary crap.
Alessandro
I recently played with an opponent VT-8mm6a on a 600+300 limit. I captured the opponent's capital, and the opponent's neighboring former computer castle. I have more troops. But catching them is problematic because of the map size and the opponent having Dimension Door, Town Portal, and Fly. In the end, we ran around for a long time, I got tired of it, and we agreed to a draw. So, I was disappointed in large maps :), but I still play sometimes :).

If by the fourth week you don't have 3-4 folders, 2 or more built-up towns, the mage guild isn't built, and the entire war is happening on one front, then it's hard to disagree with such statements
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

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