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Posts from Мафия 45. League of Legends

Mafia Closed Topic
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Offline Zybr
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Is it really that hard to understand? I calculated the probability that the protection applied to the co-leader wouldn't be wasted, but would actually be useful. And it's extremely low.
OMG... The benefit is that the player WON'T be killed. How else can I explain it?:) If they weren't going to kill him, that's good. And if they were, they hit the defense. What is the purpose of the action? To save your own.
And is it so important for you to use all the Night Actions? If it can harm, then you shouldn't use it.
I repeat once again that having two deadly, but vulnerable to attacks, killers, it makes sense to protect them.
In the core of your reasoning, it turns out that why should the Mafia kill at all? Evidence is revealed, especially with Hos, it's not that complicated and it's clearly visible.
This is a random factor; they may consider it, or they may not, and they may just silently execute. No sane Mafia will bet on it.
It's more realistic than the calculation that it will be exactly Kaylee who dies


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Thorium
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Ment, as it says on the first page, is what is displayed.
Ты страшился тысячи вещей... Но все это были лишь маски, лишь видимости. На самом деле страшило тебя только одно решиться сделать шаг в неизвестное, маленький шаг через все существующие предосторожности. И кто хоть один раз оказывал великое доверие, полагался на судьбу, тот обретал свободу.
Мы не свободные, вольно танцующие автобусы. Мы – привязанные троллейбусы и трамваи
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OMG... The benefit is that the player WON'T be KILLED. How else can I explain it? They weren't trying to kill him at all – that's good. And if they were, they ended up in defense. What's the purpose of the action? To save their own.
Haha, well, I've figured out the probability of them saving their own. Because a lot of factors have to come into play. Otherwise, it's pointless to waste an action point and sacrifice your own.
It's more realistic than the calculation that Kylie will be the one to die.
In short, Zubr, no one died. Not Kylie, and no one else on the Mafia team died. And that was very, very predictable. A wasted block, and the probability of that was 9/10. 9/10! So why did they do it? Is it really that hard to understand?
 

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Haha, well, I've figured out the probability of them saving their own unit. After all, a lot of factors need to align. Otherwise, it's a waste of action points and you'll just end up sacrificing your own unit.
Your calculation actually shows the effectiveness of a defense that can kill the attacker. In that case, all your numbers are valid.

It seems like you don't know what defense is actually used for:D


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Offline Zybr
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Brutal.
Come on, don't worry. I understand that for you, defenses and healing are only effective when the target has already been attacked. Otherwise, it doesn't work.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Online now Happy Life
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I don't see the point in discussing this further. I doubt anyone will be punished FOR DEFENDING. If the second Mafia calmly reveals their best roles, then there are other negative killers in the game to punish them for it. Otherwise, the victim will be a framed Town member, just like in a regular kill.
It's better to focus on the clues.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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Okay, it’s good when there are many active Mafia players and you can actually identify them based on their psychology. =)
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Guys, I need a replacement, something unexpected came up!
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Offline ToX
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Bring Revant or Lordi back into the game! And in general, fellow city dwellers, I suggest looking for a clue about the devourer. Here's a task for you - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Марк_Порций_Катон_Младший Try to connect this figure to someone's profile.

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Nah, forget about such clues. -___- Let's really execute Ruddy, shall we?
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Offline Рудый
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Are you guys noobs?

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I'll read everything here and see who the smart leaker is.

жизни выцветшие карточки хлам
лиц расквашенные лампочки хлам
между жидких начинаний
сам в крови воспоминаний
поваляться захотел


Молодое зло телами в масле
Застилает взор багровый зной
Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив
Наизнанку вывернись со мной
Бахромою плоть дурная драма
До рассвета нервы в решето
Валидола вмажь по вене мама
За моё счастливое ничто
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Offline Zybr
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Should we really execute Redbeard?
What should he be executed for?


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Alright, I'll take the risk. Execute Ruddy.
As for Purgatory, there's still one Barbarian left, but he's even worse than the last one. To notice him, just read a short article on the wiki.
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Good point, Tox, but I have a better link. I completely agree with you! Execute Redbeard! I knew you wanted this and would eventually come to your senses.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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