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Amko might not have read the thread and just cast his vote randomly. I don't see him trying to curry favor here. And Amko's later posts are quite good and contain an analysis of the situation.
But he wrote something else later. He could have changed his vote. And I still don't really like his posts. I've seen better gameplay from Amko.
Which means they can't say anything because of the move. That's good, right? Even better than letting inactive players lose.
Well, Amko clearly can access the forum. And Gumer will continue to be quiet even after all the problems are resolved.
Besides, Hossi, Arandor hasn't been playing with much interest lately. And he doesn't really like psychological games, as he's already said. You, as always, are just being stubborn. I know you're often right, but you forget that you can also be wrong. I know you're mostly targeting Arandor because you simply don't like him. But we've already lost too many town roles, and if he's a cop or a martyr, we're definitely going to lose, all because you're acting according to your principles. In any case, try to ignore your antipathies and execute Amko instead. Or listen to Aru. If he's really a cop, he's probably found some negativity, and that can't be ignored.
Added 1 minute ago Okay, guys, I have to go to class. I hope Hossi will listen to me and not make a mistake. In the end, at least trust my intuition =\
I understand what he's implying, but it's just an implication. Without a proper autopsy, it's all meaningless. Because it's even interpreted as a way to test the waters. "I'm Batman's friend... not a role, but a friend!"
But he wrote something else later. He could have changed his voice. And I still don't really like his posts. I've seen better games from Amko.
So, Amko's game is crap – he's Mafia, and Arandor's game is crap – so what? Nice.
Who is in cahoots with Amko? Why is he trying to curry favor with Arandor with a blue voice when Tox is being eliminated and he needs to protect himself?
Well, Amko can clearly access the forum. And Gumer will just keep quiet later, when all the problems are solved.
Amko can't access it, nor can several other participants. Don't try to fool me. And I wouldn't be so sure about Gumer. Or do you know him so well that you can predict every move?
Anyway, Hossi, Arandor hasn't been playing with interest lately. And he doesn't really like psychological games, as he has already said.
Such people have no place in the game. And if you add his inexperience...
You're just being stubborn as always. I know you're often right, but you forget that you also make mistakes.
Nonsense.
I know you're eliminating Arandor mostly because you just don't like him.
Haha, you don't know anything. Empty speculation. I don't "eliminate because of dislike," I execute someone who is being exposed as Mafia. And if you can't provide any evidence of his innocence, other than intuition, then don't accuse me of being wrong and interpret my motives in your own way.
But right now, we've lost too many town roles, and if he's a cop or a suicide bomber, we're definitely going to lose, all because you acted according to your principles.
He's being exposed. I'm 90% sure he's not town, and certainly not a role. He's just trying to boost his ego with his antics, trying to delay the inevitable.
In any case, try to ignore your antipathies and execute Amko instead. Or listen to Aru. If he's really a cop, he probably found some negative information, and that can't be ignored.
Heresy. I repeat, I execute based on suspicion. If someone thinks there's a dislike, they should go to the doctor to get their eyes checked. I don't see any connections with Amko. There are no intersections with anyone at all. And he was thinking, instead of selfishly stagnating in one place with stupid maneuvering and avoiding specifics. "Arandor is a cop and found negative information." Hmm. The most likely scenario being considered: Mafia killed, the Serial Killer is blocked. Serial Killer. Not Mafia. The town has no Doctor and no Cop. The Cop is being exposed and suggests hanging the Serial Killer. This is a brain fart of thermal stage. The Serial Killer now needs to kill at least one Mafia for balance, regardless of the execution. Instead, the Serial Killer is sent to the gallows. At night, the Cop dies. The Mafia manipulates the vote, thanks to the loss of votes and the Advocate. Amen? If Arandor were a Cop, he would have doomed the town to lose with such a stupid move. But Arandor is Mafia, and just wants to get out of it.
In the end, at least trust my intuition =[/QUOTE] Why should I trust someone who, instead of restoring an analytical post, writes nonsense that is more suitable for the Mafia?
He's not selfish, unlike you. Others are selfish, but he isn't.
My actions are logical and aimed at gaining profit for the town. If you don't like it, Mafia? That's your problem.
Hossi, what do you think, who did the Mafia save today?
Someone whose saving would be unexpected in case of execution. Something like Plesen/Links/Neyra/Gumer. Moreover, saving a townie can have a double benefit - the Cop knows exactly who to kill and leaks the information, and the Mafia sits without a loss. If this subtle hint "olololo, if I were Mafia, I would be saved, don't bother executing" doesn't work. First, it's a sign of desperation. Second, you were under the Cop's radar, who would hardly have exposed you during the day, finishing the job at night. Actually, you just got lucky that Matilda was the Cop. And that's it
"Arandor is the cop and found something negative." Hmm. The most likely scenario being considered: the mafia killed, the serial killer is blocked. Serial killer. Not the mafia. The town has no doctor and is in a coma. The cop is being exposed and suggests executing the serial killer. This is a severe case of brain malfunction. The serial killer now needs to kill at least one mafia member for balance, regardless of the execution. Instead, the serial killer goes to the guillotine. At night, the cop dies. The mafia manipulates the vote, thanks to the loss of votes and the lawyer. Amen? If Arandor were the cop, he would have doomed the town to lose with such a stupid move.
1. Why is the serial killer blocked instead of the mafia? No need to talk about a "bloody" scenario. + The protection could have worked instead of the block. 2. If you stay silent and allow the cop to be executed, is the town not doomed? :D 3. The town is doomed if it votes so poorly. And since it votes so poorly, I don't care about its smart inhabitants and their victories anymore. He accuses, doesn't believe, pushes for an investigation, and then I'm to blame (if there's no investigation, then I'm to blame again). What a way to play. Skill with excuses. The cop is under suspicion and must execute a random player, hoping he's a mafia member. Oh yes, such a plan will definitely save him, rather than teaming up with another player to eliminate a blocked/suspicious player.
If this subtle hint "lol, if I were the mafia, I would be cleared, don't bother executing me" doesn't work.
TOO BAD, I was already going to defend myself and give an example of another mafia game where I defended myself every night :(. Well, it's better to clear an innocent person and lose the night than to clear a suspect and prolong his life until night. But no, this night is needed for other purposes :D
Ugh! I've lost my post twice. There, in general terms, is about how I can't stand all of you. Brevity is the soul of wit, yes
Added 18 minutes ago No, I need to say it, otherwise I won't be here all day. 1. You're annoying. I'm already tired of reading this A-X showdown. Have some consideration for those who can't log in. Or pause the game until everyone can be here. 2. I'm reading everything that was said, and I understand that Arandor is not a town in any case. First, he says that he has an amazing role and that everyone is doomed without him, then he gets "executed" and doesn't reveal himself, then when he needs to reveal himself because he's really about to be executed, he backs off, hiding behind his mysterious role. I'll put it as a question: Will this awesome town role scare the town by not revealing himself on the scaffold? Arandor has no one in the negatives except Amko. And he's pushing for the execution because Amko is on the list. In short, there's no investigation. Great argument in the spirit of "well, Amko is probably Mafia..." Plus, he throws away his vote and disappears. A peaceful role would never let everything just happen.
Hey, once you said: "it's better to reveal yourself, even if you're a townie, it's better than getting executed," and now you're defending his mythical role, explaining that Venus is in the phase of Saturn. What's up, kid? Minus point.
I don't understand why I should switch my vote from a player who is negative for me to a player whose negativity is close to zero compared to the first. Why should I trust him?
And the cop, by the way, having two successful investigations, even with a 50/50 probability, would have revealed himself if he was nominated for execution. But Arandor probably just has no one to reveal. He's a very peaceful guy! Arandor, reveal yourself if you have someone to reveal.
I want discussions. But you're all just gone((((
Added 1 minute ago Besides, to Arandor: This is not a fair argument. Refrain from arguing, playing "dare," and so on. It spoils the overall impression of the game and the opinion of the participant himself
Все псы попадают в рай
Какие бы законы мы не писали, нас все равно расстреляют, если мы проиграем эту войну.
I don't understand why I should switch my vote from a player who is negative for me to a player whose negativity is close to zero compared to the first. Why should I trust him?
Arandor has no one in the negative roles except Amko.
REALLY?! What a news flash. And are good players playing like that? Or are they just noobs who can't even read?
And he advocates for the execution because Amko is having fun.
What fun? I suggested it and started the execution in the first place.
First, he says he has an amazing role and everyone is doomed without him, then he gets executed and doesn't reveal himself, then when it's time to reveal himself because he's really about to be executed, he backs down, hiding behind his mysterious role. I'll rephrase it as a question: Will an awesome town role scare the town by not revealing itself on the scaffold? Arandor has no one in the negative roles except Amko. And he advocates for the execution because Amko is having fun. In short, there's no investigation. A great argument in the spirit of "well, Amko is probably Mafia..." Plus, he loses his vote and disappears. A town role would never let things go on like that.
Another person who plays by the book of rules. If you follow that rule, then more than half of the Mafia would be caught, because they disappear constantly and rarely log in.
And the cop, even though he had two successful night investigations, albeit with a 50/50 chance, would have revealed himself if he had been nominated for execution.
But Hossi says that the Cop wouldn't have revealed himself and shouldn't have done so. Do you have different rulebooks? Lol. WHO TO BELIEVE?!
1. Why is the player killed when they are clearly a Town member, and not Mafia? There's no need to bring up the "bloody" aspect. Also, it's possible that protection was activated instead of a block.
Because a person who was actively hunting down the Mafia was deliberately killed. A serial killer wouldn't eliminate an active player who is analyzing the situation and searching for the Mafia. The problem with the protection is related to the "bloody" aspect, unfortunately.
2. If you remain silent and allow the Town member to be executed, is the town not doomed? :)
Are you a Town member? Seriously? I didn't see any analysis. During the analysis, players discuss their actions during the night, their motives, and analyze their moves. You didn't do any of that, "Town member."
You accuse, you don't believe, you push for an analysis, and then I'm to blame (if there's no analysis, I'm still to blame). This is a terrible way to play. It's just excuses and poor skill.
You're even worse than Nebki in game 22 or 23 from Vegtam. He was a Sergeant, and he lost in the voting, even though everyone explained to him what to do. He didn't trust us. And you talk about trust, but you're playing hide-and-seek and being evasive.
You should execute a random player, hoping that they are Mafia.
Another piece of evidence that you're not good at analyzing.
It's a pity, I was already going to defend myself and give an example of another Mafia game where everyone defended themselves every night. But no, it's better to defend an innocent person and lose the Night Defense than to defend a suspect and extend their life until the night. But no, this Night Defense is needed for other purposes, right? :)
So, are you a Town member or a Mafia member who is being protected? :)
Do we still have Town members left?
Ask when everyone is in the loop.
All of Arandor's complaints about the level of play can be attributed to envy and frustration from being eliminated as Mafia.
Or pause the game until everyone can be present here.
Because a person who executed the Mafia member was deliberately killed. A **maniac wouldn't eliminate an active player** who is involved in analyzing and searching for the Mafia. And the problem with protection is precisely because of the bloodshed. Unfortunately.
book?
Are you a cop? Seriously? I haven't seen an autopsy. During an autopsy, they discuss actions during the night, motives, and analyze their moves. You haven't done any of that, "cop."
my vote is here to help. analysis? wanted to and went. I don't believe in Mafia reveals from day one, so I'm going by INTUITION or whatever else I have. I shouldn't reveal myself!!1
So, are you a cop or a protected Mafia member? X)
protected cop. I hope so, haha
lol. If anyone has a better chance of exposing the Mafia, it's me. I wrote a list of suspects.
Because a person who executed the Mafia member was deliberately killed. A maniac wouldn't eliminate an active player who is analyzing and searching for the Mafia. And the problem with protection is precisely because of the bloodshed. Unfortunately.
What if the maniac is a newbie or just clueless, or maybe it's me? x)
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my vote is with you. Analysis? If I want to, I'll do it. I don't believe in Mafia reveals from day one, so I go by INTUITION or whatever else I have. I shouldn't reveal myself!!1
But you've already revealed yourself.
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lol. If anyone has a better chance of exposing the Mafia, it's me. I already wrote a list of suspects.
I'm too lazy to look. Do me a favor and remind me.
Let's say Kosha is Mafia, but Amko suddenly isn't. And everyone trusts Linkse, Klov might just be a newbie, so where are the other two Mafia members? Gumer, who voted for Tox second? Hosa and Mona, who threw their teammate under the bus? Plesen? Maybe, but what about the fourth one? You? But they suspect me, and by defending me, you're also raising suspicions about yourself, which isn't very helpful for a Mafia member. So, think about it).