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I have a problem here:
I can't start the game - it gets stuck on "getting headers from the host." I've tried using Garena and Hamachi, with players from different countries (with one of them, the ping was quite normal, around 90ms), and on two different versions of the game. What could be the problem?
The firewall is disabled.
The issue is that, often, due to a large number of maps or saves on the server's side, the client cannot handle such a large amount of information (when reading map or save headers).
Delete or move all maps located in the Maps and Random Maps folders, for example, to a subfolder, but leave at least one map in the Maps folder that can be used for online play.
Do the same with the Games folder, where the game saves are stored. Leave no more than 10-15 necessary saves in this folder, and delete or move the rest to another location for storage.
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The problem is that, often, due to the large number of maps or saves on the server player's computer, the client player cannot handle such a volume of information (when reading the headers of maps or saves).
Delete or move all maps located in the Maps and Random Maps folders, for example, to some subfolder, but leave at least one map in the Maps folder that can be played over the network.
Do the same with the Games folder, where the game saves are stored. Leave up to 10-15 necessary saves in this folder, and delete or move the rest to another location for storage.
Sometimes, even this doesn't help. Then the solution is to create the game somewhere else or through a third player, save, and load the save. There are usually no problems when loading in such cases. I played against an opponent in the Heroes of Might and Magic cup this way: it was impossible to create a game from home; it was reading the headers, although there were only 3 files in the folders. We started when the opponent could play from work, we saved, and then calmly finished the game from home.
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An interesting fight turned out in the cup game with Vitalik—I went into the Griffin Conservatory without scouting, and in the end only one Naga survived. True, I still lost afterwards, but capturing the Conservatory was pretty cool. Maybe someone will want to give it a try. The save isn't from the game itself, but restored from a previous daily one, though Octavia is exactly the same as she was in the game.
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In addition to connection issues. Sometimes you see a room created by a player, but you can't connect to it, even though it appears to be free and open. GR doesn't help in such cases either. Does anyone know the reason?
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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In addition to connection issues, sometimes you see a room created by a player, but you can't connect to it, even though it appears to be free and open. GR doesn't help in these cases either. Does anyone know the reason?
I've encountered this too, and the ping in Hamachi is excellent. The most likely cause of this discrepancy is the firewall – either the Windows firewall (also known as brandmauer) or one from another manufacturer.
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Preds, that was a cool battle. (There was no morale), if there had been a war wagon, the losses would have been smaller.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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Battle screenshot:
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Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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Here's a question that came up: what do people think about the strength of the Barbarian Castle on the 8x8 map?
Of course, with a full-fledged War Tower.

My thoughts on the 8x8 map and not only:

1. 8x12 - a solid mid-tier castle, but more towards the lower end.
2. 6x10 - one of the top-tier castles - 2nd or 3rd place.
3. Jebus Cross - 8th-9th place.
4. 8x6 - 8th-9th place - here's a more detailed look:

Based on several games on the 8x8 map, this is the picture: either the spawn is in a corner, with large but long roads to the center, which generally doesn't promise a fast pace. Or the spawn is in the center with a quick exit, but there's no money for anything. Or there are simply no good resources, and with its weak creatures, the castle is significantly inferior to almost all the other 8 remaining castles. Maybe only the Tower is problematic, but usually, there are rich territories on the spawn, which allows you to quickly defend on several fronts in the early game. Again, if the starting zone is in a corner with a lot of money, it might be a disadvantage that you can't get control of the Tower. Again, in Fortress Battle, you probably won't have the first turn. That is, - either you need to focus on building up your economy, or you simply need to buy this castle for a higher price.
Земля нуля.
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3. Jebus Cross - 8-9th place.
There are only 9 castles. Do you think Barbarian on Jebus is a bad pick? :eek: Or am I missing something?
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There are only 9 Castles. Do you think Barbarian on Jebus Cross is bad? :eek: Or did I misunderstand something?
resurrecting the topic about Caslov's horses from a different angle
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

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Dirty, yeah, they are quite competitive with towers. But generally, Barbarians are considered weak on Jebus, and that's a trend. I'm specifically interested in the 8th level.

Yavdet, raise your standards, at least try. I just saw the nonsense you were spouting about the Castle, it's utter madness and disgusting.
Земля нуля.
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Oelm

Yavdet, raise your standards, at least try. I just saw the nonsense you were spouting on the castle thread; it's utter madness and repulsive.

Nah, I couldn't handle it. I'll raise the bar when you start sharing your own thoughts.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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IMHO, Barb is a solid mid-tier everywhere, and on the higher side of it. And you can't really call Tower the worst now, at least in 8; maybe lower mid-tier, probably. Because there are no absolute underdogs now, all castles are good and playable, and situations can vary: both Swamp and Inferno can suck hard

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R55Max, here are the move calculations: http://clip2net.com/s/1mWZs
Also, for interest's sake, I conducted a study on the probabilities of getting DD in utopias. The goal of the experiment was to calculate the probability of obtaining DD (Book of Water, Monkmage's Cap) in the first random utopia. For simplicity of calculation, I excluded the probability of receiving duplicate artifacts. The following results were obtained for different types of utopias in ascending order:
1) 13.3%
2) 25.7%
3) 37.1%
4) 47.6%
Guys, I accidentally deleted this cool move table from my end) Please post it if anyone risked to Download it, otherwise I don't feel like spending another 10 minutes on calculations:)
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If no one bids by the evening, I’ll lower the price.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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Oelm
Dirty, yeah, it's quite competitive with the Tower. But generally, Barbarian is considered weak on Jebus, and that's become a trend. I'm specifically interested in the 8th game.
Who started this trend? Have there been such drastic changes in the game since I left?

In my opinion, on Jebus, Barbarian is weaker than Swamp, Castle, Necropolis, and possibly equal to Dungeon (although I think Dungeon is worse). And he simply crushes the rest (Rampart, Tower, Inferno, Conflux).

Well, for example, Vicc considered him one of the strongest and defended this point of view, as far as I remember. They even had a match with Cobra.
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