Mafia 43. Struggle for Omega — Mafia

Zybr

14 years ago

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Oh yes, the MANIAC is useful to the city.
Zubr, I'll even turn a blind eye to the illogicality of your conclusions. I understand that it's in your best interest to try to mislead us.
But I won't join you in an alliance. And I hope the second surviving city dweller won't either.
And the mafia doesn't need you either.

Tox, what's your role in this? You're one of the two blues. By the way, you blocked me skillfully, just as I feared.

And I'm not talking about my usefulness right now. Just about the fact that I have no chance of winning alone. Just as the city with its meager check and healing, and Eclipse, have no chance.

Do I need to explain why you're blue?

Zybr

14 years ago

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Probably yes, there's no point in arguing with Lynx.

Execute Tox

ToX

14 years ago

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You're just setting up the last strong player to be targeted by the mafia.
Of course, you already know almost the entire list of remaining roles.
What's stopping you from lying and saying that I'm on the blue team?
We have no way to disprove it, and you're in a good position.

Драккошка

14 years ago

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I'll analyze my mistakes in the log later, but for now, I'll grab some popcorn and watch this incredibly interesting scene unfold.

P.S. Almost forgot.

MANYAK POLEZEN GOROD!

ToX

14 years ago

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There won't be any more scenes. I'm leaving, and I probably won't be back until tomorrow. I've made my arguments. Let people think for themselves.

Драккошка

14 years ago

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You will be gone, others will appear.

Zybr

14 years ago

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You're just setting up the only remaining strong player to be targeted by the mafia.
It's clear that you already know almost the entire list of remaining roles.
What's stopping you from spinning a yarn and saying that I'm blue?
We have no way to disprove it, and you'll be in a good position.

The point is: in the game, there's one team of two mafia members, and 2 votes that will clearly act against the serial killer, which is what you're demonstrating. There are 2 townspeople who don't know the exact breakdown of who is who. Although they already know, it's not difficult to use their brains here.
It's difficult to execute the blue players because it requires 4 votes, i.e., all the votes of the remaining players. The blue players are in a good position right now, and the serial killer is in a bad position.

Why are you blue? It's simple.
As Siever proved with his role (thank him for his daytime behavior, he confused everyone), the mafia was likely not replaced. So, Spirou is either the Patriarch or the Doctor. I doubt he would set a bomb on the first day and then heal Jack for two days in a row. Therefore, he is the Patriarch. And Jack, based on his night actions, is the Doctor (who else would heal him? He clearly wasn't "carrying" the team during the day, and you can't heal yourself).
We've figured out the townspeople; all that's left are the mafia and the serial killer. There are no questions about Lynx's role – it's Eclipse. So, by elimination, we can conclude that Tox and Nebo are the two blue players.

However, theoretically, Lynx could also be blue (if she likes to step on the same rake twice). But even then, there's no doubt that you, Tox, and Nebo are the mafia.

Zybr

14 years ago

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There won't be any more scenes. I'm leaving, and most likely until tomorrow.
I've made my arguments. Let people think for themselves.

Coward:)
Did you think I would just give up?

Драккошка

14 years ago

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Nebka

Oh lol, the Mafia and the Maniac are arguing about what's best for the town. Zubr lol, you're the blue one, I bet you figured me out by my behavior? Execute Tox.

Nebka is having glitches, so he'll be writing through me for now.

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Mestear

14 years ago

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I'm stuck with a maniac, and the city ^______^. I'll have to kill the best player in this game, but what if there are two blue players, one maniac, and Lynx left?

But imagine how fun it will be afterwards? A pure battle of the biggest noobs, WAAAU
If Tox is blue, each of the "bad guys" will have one left. It will be very interesting when the mafia and the maniac kill each other, and the healer who healed himself wins.

Execute Tox

Zybr

14 years ago

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You forgot that he also used a bomb on the very first day)))
Now that's what I call a real maniac!

Spear

14 years ago

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Town

1) Aria T'Loak - What? (killed by Blue, 3rd night)
2) Mordin Solus
3) Archangel - Arandor (killed by Red leader, 2nd night)
4) Bouncer-Elcor - Neyra (killed by Stormtrooper, 2nd night)
5) Patriarch
6) Azari Dancer - Mold (killed by Stormtrooper, 1st night)
7) Samara - Siever (killed by Maniac, 4th night)
8) Kenn - Gumer (killed by Yellow, 3rd night)

Mafia

Blue Clan

1) Leader
2) Fighter
3) Sniper - Ruddy (killed by Maniac, 2nd night)

Yellow Clan

1) Eclipse Leader - Lynx
2) Eclipse Stormtrooper - Payley (killed by Town Marksman, 2nd night)
3) Eclipse Engineer - Ment (lynched)

Red Clan

1) Pack Leader - Naver (killed, possibly by Blue team, there's a possibility that the wounds are from an explosion, but they probably would have been described)
2) Pack Flamethrower (Vistrit, killed by Stormtrooper, 1st night)
3) Pack Battle Beast (Lord Mortulus) (killed by Maniac, 1st night)

Maniac
1) Morint - Zubr

So, we have 2-2-1-1. We know the Maniac and one Mafia member. Well, I read Zubr's post, and I agree with him on many points. Even though he's almost unbeatable at night, nothing prevents us from lynching him during the day, if necessary.
The only dilemma is whether to lynch Tox or Lynx. Because if we kill Tox, there will still be 3 shots at night, and without blockers, I don't really like that scenario. I'd rather leave 2 shooters, especially since Zubr could easily take out Tox at night (it's very unlikely that the Mafia will decide to go after Morint, where they will definitely lose lives). And if they do, it's even better for the town, because both night actions won't be directed at the town.

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Mestear

14 years ago

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Zybr

You forgot that he also used a bomb on the very first day)))
Now that's a real maniac!

Boombaaa?

Zybr

14 years ago

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So, we have 2-2-1-1. We know one Mafia and one Town member. I read Zubr's post, and I agree with him on many points. Even though he's almost unbeatable at night, nothing prevents us from executing him during the day if necessary.
The only dilemma is whether to execute Tox or Lynx. Because if we kill Tox, there will still be 3 shots at night, and without blockers, I'm not very happy with that scenario. I'd rather leave 2 shooters, even though Zubr could easily take out Tox at night (it's very unlikely that the Mafia will decide to go for a kill where they are almost certain to lose lives). And if they do, it's even better for the town, because both night-killers won't target the town.

Lynx is unlikely to vote against herself; she's not suicidal, and the blue team will try to eliminate me until the very end. Although Nebo is trying to portray himself as a town member, we definitely shouldn't trust him.

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Mestear

14 years ago

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Spear

The only dilemma is whether to execute Tox or Lynx. Because if I kill Tox, there will still be 3 shots at night, and without blockers, I'm not very happy with that. I'd rather leave 2 shooters, especially since Zubr could easily take out Tox at night (it's very unlikely that the Mafia will decide to go for a morint, where they will definitely lose lives). And if they do go for it, it's even better for the town, because both neutral detectives won't target the town.

So, 2 blues and a maniac will remain, what happens next?

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