Posts from "Новичок-2012. Winter"

Hooray!!! Everyone played:smile12:

Congratulations to InOK and ariputra for making it to the semi-finals; you have 2 weeks to play your match. The winner of this round will only have one match left before claiming the title of "Rookie 2012-Winter"
(I don't think we'll make any exceptions and we'll hold the Final to 2 wins)

But the guys in the lower bracket will have to fight a little more
in the second round of 1/4, 7z - Dimast and iSeeDeadPpl-crzq made it through
The winners will face PlayHeroes_HP and Tootsie Pie
As agreed, I hope you have time to play over the weekend, good luck!
I'll summarize the results on Monday, March 26, 2012
gnoll, Tomash, AlexAG, Zzzloi thank you for participating!
gnoll, Tomash, AlexAG you raised the bar for the tournament and showed excellent results; we wish you good luck in other tournaments;) And Zzzloi, maybe we'll see you in the next season:smile26:

23.03.2012 7z (Blue, Cita, Kreg, Kreg) def Dimast (Red, Castle, Valeska, Turis) 2sm4d(3) 133

Small respawn, practically no resources or gold, but there are 5 chests. All turned out to be max! External dwelling of cyclops behind the marksmen (( Would've preferred birds...

Kreg immediately gets tactics and masters it from one of the chests. I break through the energy units onto the grass. Along the way, only shooter blockers, but they're no longer a threat to us. Next to the road, an external dwelling of elves behind the lizards (I clear it) and an external dwelling of centaurs, and behind them Rampart.

The first week ended with elves in the citadel and 1-3+ bears in the citadel. 0 gold on hand.

Barely scrounge up gold and buy elves. 28 units - an excellent stack. I reveal the minimal cons. I clear gold, upgrade elves, take the cons and the naga bank. I clear the morale +3/+3 artifact with 60 storm elementals, losing a behemoth. What a noob ((. Well, never mind, this will still decide things. I prepare to run to the second secondary hero (in which, apparently, the opponent already is).

131 the opponent breaks through to the main and is ready to kill me. I hole up with Kreg in the citadel and wait for him.

132 the opponent doesn't reach the main by one turn.

133 the opponent bursts in. Armies and stats are in the screenshots. In the battle, morale procced for me about 7 times (3 of those on grand elves) and luck a couple of times. For the opponent - not once. I shoot down all the marksmen on the very first turn and continue to pick off the citadel's walkers.

The opponent runs away. I lost ~15 grand elves, 8 birds, ~20 centaurs, goblins. Overall a decent trade-off :)
We postpone the continuation of the game to tomorrow. The next day, the opponent surrenders.

Thanks for the game. Somehow we clicked especially well with the opponent :smile01:

First place, I'm coming for you! :smile49: :smile08:

23.03.2012 7z (Blue, Citadel, Crag Hack, Crag) def Dimast (Red, Castle, Valeska, Tyris) 2sm4d(3) 133

Small respawn, practically no resources and gold, but there are 5 treasure chests. All turned out to be max! Cyclops external dwelling behind the marksmen ( ( Would have preferred birds instead...

Crag immediately gets Tactics and experts it on one of the chests. I break through the energy units onto the grass. Along the road there are only shooter blocks, but they no longer scare us. Next to the road is an elf external dwelling behind the lizards (I capture it) and a centaur external dwelling, and behind them Rampart.

The first week ended with elves in the citadel and 1-3+bears in the citadel. 0 gold on hand.

I somehow scrounge up gold and buy the elves. 28 units — an excellent stack. I reveal the conservatory minimal. I capture gold, upgrade the elves, take the conservatory and the naga bank. I capture the artifact for morale +3/+3 with 60 storm elementals, losing a behemoth. What a noob ( ( Well, it's fine, this will still decide it. I prepare to run to the second secondary hero (in which, apparently, the opponent is already).

131 opponent breaks through to the main and is ready to kill me. I hunker down with Crag in the citadel and wait for him.

132 opponent doesn't reach the main by one turn.

133 opponent bursts in. Armies and stats are in the screenshots. In the battle, I got morale about 7 times (of those, about 3 times on the grand elves) and luck a couple of times. The opponent got none. I shoot down all the marksmen on the very first turn and continue to shoot down the citadel's infantry.

The opponent flees. I lost ~15 grand elves, 8 birds, ~20 centaurs, goblins. Overall, a decent trade :)
We postpone the continuation of the game until tomorrow. The next day, the opponent surrenders.

Thanks for the game. Somehow, we clicked particularly well with the opponent :smile01:

First place, here I come! :smile49: :smile08:

The distribution was just insane, as Alex wrote me about 4 days ago that with such an army he would have said GG long ago when I beat someone, because I had 2 unicorns that wiped out stacks of 50-99 shooters. I definitely didn't plan to see that many grand elves. And the morale and luck when both had +3 — I got none against about 10 under luck, which just left no chance. And today, having a 10 percent chance against 90, I decided not to drag it out and concede the victory. I believe the person rightfully deserved it. We clicked, I won't argue. And I'm not Ari.... so why wouldn't we click. Thanks for the game. Just for myself, I could try that same save without that particular artifact, of course.

26.03.2012 crzq (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def ISeeDeadPpl (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) Mini-nostalgia 144.

I picked mini-nosta, took blue to pick Castle first, and also restarts are more favorable plus no hassle with mana restoration in the castle and daily resources. We restarted for quite a while, opponent took 111+112, I took 111.

111 - Shakti with 2 stacks, got Sephiroth and Brissa - useful heroes + fairies for speed. Around the castle money is tight, but a pandora's box for wood (42 as it turned out) was tempting. I rushed to beat Shakti's guards (hobbits, I think) and also used him to scout the area - there's plenty of gold scattered around, no particularly nasty blockers, not too deep in the respawn a Griffin Conservatory visible past 20+ Energy Elementals, a Dragon Fly Hive past 50+ wood, a Dwarf Cottage on the way, and 3 external Troglodyte dwellings + 1 Medusa dwelling. Money was only enough for 3 heroes (that's why I used Shakti for scouting), apparently I bought all Troglodytes in vain. But the layout seemed promising, I decide to play.
112 - Gold collection, 7 heroes. I buy Grindan and decide to level him to Spellpower - I run him through 2 upgrade structures off-road - result: level 3 and experience ground. I revealed an external dwelling of Eyes a day's travel from the castle off-road (next to 2 external Troglodyte dwellings). Shakti runs to the Dwarf Cottage, clearing light blocks along the way.
113 - Checked the Dwarf Cottage - it's Throng's version, Shakti with 3 Attack and basic Offense with 120 Troglodytes is scary to engage, I decide to break through to the adjacent zone via underground (turned out to be Citadel) and camp at the Dwarf Cottage, meanwhile sending a long chain of everything upwards to capture and Portal of Summoning the Eye dwelling.
114 - An Inferno computer pops out and kills my important scout hero sent to collect 2 piles of gold and scout. The Citadel computer with its full army stands at the underground entrance. 20 Eyes (didn't have enough gold for 1 more, barely scraped together by breaking chains) and 150 Troglodytes take the max Dwarf Cottage without major issues (though I lost more there than I should have). Then through the strategic external tavern I captured the Citadel computer, leaving all Troglodytes on Shakti.
115 - I drove 20 Eyes and 140 Troglodytes back to clear the pandora's box with Grindan. Attacked - and there were 42 wood (hoped for around 20-30). Barely managed under Spellpower, losing only the fattened singles (a fairy and a Troglodyte, I think) (just barely cleared - Grindan was left with 0 mana; without Bless losses would have been significant). In the pandora's box: 10k - Shakti: Expert Offense, Tactics, Logistics, Air Magic. Grindan also grabs Scholar.
116-117 - I kill the Inferno computer, capture the remaining external Troglodyte and Medusa dwellings. Dungeon: tiers 1-3 in Fort, in Citadel: Bears in Castle. Thanks to the external market. I revealed a Bear dwelling, but it's far to reach, and guarded by 20+ Vampire Lords.
121-123 - Pointless running around, wasting timer to no effect (all game like this). Transport and purchase of all Dungeon creatures from external dwellings. Grindan under Energy Elementals, Shakti on 3-4 Griffin Conservatories on Barbarian lands for speed. And a major fail - I speed Grindan without equipping the artifact +1 to mana regeneration.
124 - As a result, Grindan with 256 Troglodytes and 36 Eyes, almost no fattened units, attacks Energy Elementals with 9 mana, just in case I use Spellpower (hoping the Conservatory isn't max). The Conservatory is, of course, max. No Shield, I use Stone Skin. Barely crawl out of it with a loss of 100 Troglodytes and 30 Eyes. Shakti takes a treasure zone without serious losses and runs to clear the Bear dwelling.
125-135 - Shakti goes into the Citadel treasure zone, as it turns out, also Citadel-style, pandora's boxes there, starts consuming Dragon Fly Hives (giving Scouting + Earth + Wisdom). With adventures, I kill the Castle computer and speed up at the entrance to the treasure zone, planning to take the Dragon Utopia revealed there.
136 - Barely trade resources to buy all 8 Bears, deliver them via a long chain to Shakti, and he runs into a mini Dragon Utopia, where the Troglodytes get finished off (lost around 100-130, I think). The loot was excellent - Helm of the Alabaster +10/-2 and a set for Elixir of Life.
137 - Scrape together and clear the remaining resources via chains, build Angels. Shakti speeds up in the Castle.
141 - After buying 3 more Angels, I run to the central treasure zone (with 150 mana). Army: 10 Angels, 8 Bears, 24 Wyverns, 6 Birds. All Dragon Fly Hives (about 5-6) turned out mini or pre-mini. I break a double Guardian Object, losing all Birds to 5 Rust Dragons.
142 - Stupidly splitting the army and not assembling the Elixir, I lose a Bear to Mages (there were about 87 of them, in 1 stack, from the retaliation of 4 Bears they killed one), behind which were Boots of Speed. For 1-4 Fairies: Shield +12, and a road block. Thank goodness, they flee. Shakti on level 7 speed has 3588 movement points. I free the prisons, lead the scout heroes - spread out across the treasure zone.
143 - Saw an Air spell book, on the way to it a Dragon Utopia, then another one. Dropped Air and Earth spell books, a Red Orb, and a Sack of Gold +1k. Along the way picked up an Orb of Earth.
144 - The opponent bursts in with 5 Birds, 5 Angels, and 48 Dwarves (I think). Combat stats about 10 worse, mana around 40. Shakti has ~100. I attack and dismantle them without issue, flooding with magic (even with level 7 spell power, but with the orb) and overwhelming with Haste.

Unfortunately, after the Dragon Utopias there was a lot of gold, and in a pandora's box they gave 15 Pit Lords, while my growth was almost completely unrecruited for those 4 weeks, I could have in about a week with the Elixir built a stack of around 300-400 Demons, but it didn't work out.

Thanks for the game!

The guys played great:smile54:

7z and crzq, congratulations!:smile01:
PlayHeroes_HP - 7z and Tootsie Pie - crzq, you have one week to play the match, until 02.04. The winners of these matches will advance to the first round of the lower bracket.

Dimast:smile05: :smile21: it's a pity that luck wasn't on your side in this battle! We wish you success in future games;)
iSeeDeadPpl, you made a great entry into the world of heroes, we hope to see you in the next season:smile02:

Chat Ariputra is not responding; I would like to play already.

26.03.2012 crzq (Blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) def iSeeDeadPpl (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) Mini-nostalgia 144.

Probably my worst game in the tournament, a complete failure. The wretchedness of the spawn only emphasized that. No gold at respawn, no external dwellings, no Dragon Fly Hives; 2 crypts, a stable, and a market two days away — all the good stuff.

On day three (I could have on day two, but I chose the wrong path at the fork) I took the first AI — swamp, also without external dwellings, but with a Griffin Conservatory. I placed Ivor in the castle on a rush with elves, waiting for the AI's last hero. He didn't reach a couple of tiles, and I attack him the next day, forgetting the Centaurs and Lizardmen in the castle. Here I certainly panicked: 45 Centaurs and 9 Lizardmen could have held out just fine without a hero against the army the swamp player had, but I decide to ransom Ivor at all costs. The situation is complicated by the fact that all the heroes that could reach the external market had already moved. There is no money to ransom 11 elves, but I can ransom them by sacrificing one. True, in that case there won't be money to build the market for buying Ivor this turn. I sacrifice four elves, ransom them, build the market, exchange all resources for 2500 gold, buy Ivor, kill the AI. A Pyrrhic victory. All resources at respawn are collected, there's still a bit left in the swamp, but clearly not enough for rocs and ducks. In the end, somehow, having taken both pre-max crypts, I raised a Wyvern in the Citadel. During this time, some shooter guard reduced the elf population to three or four.

I started week two by killing the Necro AI. Of course, all the AI's heroes have shooters, which they happily use to hose down the Grand Elves. The only profit from the Necro AI — he built +2K. There's an external dwelling of skeletons, but I never saw a Necro hero in the tavern for the entire game.

I went and killed Conflux. There's no need to mention the shooters, plus he, the bastard, built a Citadel, which took five elves. Three Wyverns also fell in battle. So by the end of week two, my army consisted of 2 Wyverns, 2 Magma Elementals, 2 Grand Elves, and 7 Waspworts — one per hero. But that seemed insufficient to me, and I entered a crypt. The crypt turned out to be a max one; the Vampires got lucky several times in a row... Well, that was me being emotional. The crypt is actually a pre-max one, but even there they gladly feasted on two Wyverns and two Elementals, kindly provided by me. I tried to take it with a scout hero, so I didn't retreat, but fought to the end, so that another scout hero could clean up later. However, with that same hero, all my belongings disappeared: the Amulet of Mana obtained at the start, Bones +1/+1, and an Eagle Eye from the crypts, plus a few scrolls. Hmm.

I decide to surrender, scan all castles for anything at all, and discover about 40 Dwarves that had been built since the start. On the Necro respawn there is a Dragon Fly Hive, 2 Dragon Fly Hives in the mini-treasure zone, 2 Dragon Fly Hives on the Conflux respawn. I postpone the surrender. On week three, I buy Wyverns, upgrade 52 Dwarves, and go to the hives. Along the way, I take a Dwarf Cottage and a mini-Medusa dwelling — the only buildings of their kind on my half of the map. I don't dare attack the Gorgon stack guarding a Pandora's Box — I have nothing to kill them with. And by that time, Ivor doesn't particularly need 10k experience, there's no smell of Wisdom, and the Necro army is also dubious help.

The Dragon Fly Hives drop (12-12-8-8-4), then two Griffin Conservatories drop (3+2), on 1-3-7 I install birds in the castle. By that time I already have a Capitol and about 9k income. Behind Conflux in the snow, a Dragon Utopia is discovered, and some kind of sword +2/+2. Especially since there are no artifacts on the map or with me at all. But it's a long run. It's even longer to run to the treasure zone beyond the swamp, and it's unclear what's there. I decide to take a risk — I hit the Guarded Object, exit into the underground, and right there are Wings behind Diamond Golems, a Sword +3, a Dragon Utopia (which I can't reach), and Blue's heroes. On the next turn, the Miner attacks me, and the rest you know.

Thank you crzq for the game, I wish you luck in the tournament, we'll watch the streams and cheer. I have a couple of friends who got interested in Heroes thanks to your last stream :)

I also wanted to thank everyone involved in the tournament and Scorpiona personally. It was awesome :)

P.S. I also had a question. In the seasonal rule amendments for template 8mm6a, there is a clause about a ban on building upgraded Vampires if the AI has a Necromancy Amplifier. Does this rule clause apply to the mini-nostalgia template? As I understand it, de jure I could have built upgraded Vampires and bought them, since this is not forbidden for this template. After all, "Actions not prohibited/restricted by these rules are permitted."

7z, ready to finish the match today after 16:30 Moscow time.

Added 18 hours 52 minutes ago
7z, come and fight :D!

Added 8 hours 25 minutes ago
7z, tomorrow I'm ready to finish the match from 17:00 to 21:00.

Yesterday, 17:56

7z, I'm ready to finish the game today after 16:30 Moscow time

Could you please give me advance notice?

*game in progress*
(11:30:24) 399748 ok
(11:34:13) PlayHeroes, I'm leaving, we'll finish tomorrow
*left the game, 8 hours later*
(20:00:13) PlayHeroes, I can play tomorrow from 17:00 to 21:00, I'll be waiting

Frankly, this kind of attitude is a bit disconcerting.

Yesterday, 17:56

Could you please give advance notice?

Frankly, this kind of attitude is a bit unsettling.

I state the exact time I'm available to play, and the rest depends on how it works out.

What kind of kindergarten is this?:confused:
You can't even agree on anything without outside help:smile32:
:smile31:

01.04.2012 7z (Red, Inferno, Marius, Marius) def PlayHeroes_HP(Blue, Fortress, Crag Hack, Tamika) 8mm6a 143

Terrible start. A winding road, little gold. But there are 2 experience stones near the base and Luna arrives. An external dwelling of devils for 50-99 energy, and a portal for butterflies.

Week 1. I break through into the portal, end up in the underground, run along the corridor breaking through blocks while leveling up Luna as a second main hero. I run into 2 Dragon Fly Hives for 20-49 pits and 10-19 green unicorns (which are also blocking the road).

Week 2. I get defeated, run in the other direction. And it's even more fun there. The road is blocked by a library guard of 10-19 cavalrymen. But correctly placed walls for a leveled Luna, and they fall. Marusya very luckily gets 10 and immediately gets +2 to all. I descend into the underground. I find 2 Griffin Conservatories - a singleton and a 2-4. I take the singleton, capture a cloak for speed, and stand on the second Griffin Conservatory. 32 demons.

Week 3. The chain didn't come together. I had to waste a day with Marusya, take a naga bank, and return. I take the double Griffin Conservatory. I run further and see 3 teleports. While I'm thinking about where to go, I capture scrolls behind large guards - Fly, Armageddon, Town Portal. I first decided to go to my home computer (Castle). I take his castle. Ppc. First secondary hero at 133. But in the castle, there is a capitol, a castle, and everything for angels conveniently built. I collect money and at the end of the week, I build angels. Meanwhile, I'm running towards the Necropolis. I break through, find a neutral Necropolis village. And on 136, I see the opponent. The army is small but significant. I decide to hoard more, especially since I've revealed a large Griffin Conservatory on my main. I get defeated by the opponent and run to it. 46 demons, 2 angels (+1 not recruited)

Week 4. Right near my main, I capture a scroll with Dimension Door. Oh gods, what more could you wish for?! I set grandmaster 5 (on 141) and take the Griffin Conservatory 3(or 4). I reveal another one and gloves. I make a Dimension Door closer to them. Meanwhile, a sent scout hero scouted a bit of the opponent's respawn. I stand for a speed boost in the castle (with a stable) and prepare to take Griffin Conservatories and jump to the Dragon Utopia (I have money for archangels but no gems; I want to exchange the Dragon Utopia's loot for gems and finally build them). And I see the opponent who has speed-boosted on birds on the revealed territory. Marusya, having 3k MP and 2 Dimension Doors, gets defeated by the Necropolis secondary hero, Grindan brings her efreets via Town Portal, and she covers the opponent with Armageddon. The opponent surrendered. (10 angels, 75 demons)

gg, thanks for the game. With the opponent, by the way, some conflicts arose along the way, and I even felt like writing an angry review after the game. But after the surrender, everything calmed down somehow, and I decided it wasn't worth it :)

01.04.2012 7z (Red, Inferno, Marius, Marius) def PlayHeroes_HP(Blue, Cove, Crag, Tamika) 8mm6a 143

Terrible start. A winding road, little gold. But there are 2 experience stones near the base, and Luna arrives. An external dwelling of devils for 50-99 energy crystals and a portal for imps.

Week 1. I break into the portal, end up in the underground, run through the corridor breaking blocks while leveling up Luna as a second main hero. I run into 2 Dragon Fly Hives for 20-49 pits and 10-19 gr. unicorns (which also block the road).

Week 2. I get defeated, run the other way. And it gets even worse there. The road is blocked by the guardians of the library — 10-19 cavalrymen. But properly placed walls for the leveled-up Luna, and they fall. Marusya very luckily gets to level 10 and immediately gets +2 to all stats. I go down to the underground. I find 2 Griffin Conservatories — a level 1 and a 2-4. I take the level 1, take a speed cloak, and camp at the second Griffin Conservatory. 32 demons.

Week 3. The chain didn't work out. I had to waste a day with Marusya, take a naga bank, and return. I take the level 2 Griffin Conservatory. I run further and see 3 teleports. While thinking where to go, I take scrolls behind large guardians — Flight, Armageddon, Town Portal. First, I decided to go to my own computer (Castle). I take his Castle. Wow. The first secondary hero is level 133. But in the castle, a capitol, a castle, and everything for angels have been carefully built. I collect money and at the end of the week I recruit angels. Meanwhile, I run towards the necromancer. I break through, find a neutral necromancer village. And on day 136 I see the opponent. The army is small but significant. I decide to hoard some more, especially since a large Griffin Conservatory has appeared on the main. I get defeated by the opponent and run to it. 46 demons, 2 angels (+1 not recruited)

Week 4. I take a Dimension Door scroll right under the main. Oh gods, what more could I wish for?! I get Expert Earth Magic (on day 141) and take the level 3 (or 4) Griffin Conservatory. I reveal another one and the gloves. I cast Dimension Door closer to them. Meanwhile, a sent scout hero scouted a bit of the opponent's spawn. I camp at the start in the castle (with a stable) and prepare to take Griffin Conservatories and jump to the Dragon Utopia (I have money for archangels but no gems; I want to trade the loot from the Dragon Utopia for gems and finally recruit them). And I see the opponent, who has sped up on birds in the revealed territory. Marusya, having 3k movement points and 2 Dimension Door casts, defeats the necromancer secondary hero, Grindan brings her efreets via Town Portal, and she closes in on the opponent with Armageddon. The opponent surrendered. (10 angels, 75 demons)

GG, thanks for the game. With the opponent, by the way, there were some conflicts during the game, and I even felt like writing an angry review afterwards. But after the surrender, everything calmed down, and I decided it wasn't worth it :)

thanks, good luck in the tournament.

7z congratulations! Just a little more effort and you'll be in the semi-finals:rolleyes:

PlayHeroes_HP:smile21: It's a pity, of course... But now you've broken out of the ranks of beginners and moved up to the next level! Keep growing, and may luck be on your side:smile13:

The match between Tootsie Pie and crzq is extended until Thursday, 05.04.2012, and I will provide the final results.
Thank you, 7z, for your understanding.

InOK and ariputra, what a spectacular game from you! I would love to watch a stream of the game! Please let me know in advance about the game; I think many people will be interested!

04/02/2012 In0k (Red, Swamp, Vistan, Vistan) def ariputra (Blue, Inferno, Kalh, Kalh) map, 113
both took 2 restarts, 111, slow roads, 113 opponent surrendered.