Posts from Tournaments hassles HMM II

It would be interesting to try and gather the maximum number of skeletons. That would be quite amusing :)

Question from Qwerty: Perhaps I missed something, but is there a description of the second tournament available somewhere?

2 Zingel
Of course, /topic/1254/
Your description and mine are both there...

Personally, I think the best option is a Walkthrough for the minimum time or the fastest leveling to a certain level, because:
the arena depends too heavily on luck in the final battle (if the hero has Luck and Leadership skills, morale and luck may or may not trigger, and it doesn't depend on the player themselves)
maximum hero development is a crazy idea, as it's unclear how to measure this. Which skills should be considered priorities? How do you compare troop strength (without combat)? Should characteristics be considered equal in value, or preference given to some of them?

Of course, there are problems with the fastest Walkthrough option — it results in a specific disadvantage for Wizards, as they will have trouble building level 7 — Titans are too expensive, and Giants are useless (please, don't tell me that "it's actually possible to build Titans by the end of the 2nd week", I know it's possible!).

P.S. - Do you need to be in a Clan to participate in Tournaments?

oO preparations for the next tournament are already beginning... that's good...
From what I recall, if the majority decides to play for speed, there aren't many decent small maps, so the size will be medium. Although this is still to be decided...

I also had a slightly crazy idea... a speed run of clearing the Dragon Utopia; in this case, computers can be placed either as allies against the player (for more adrenaline 8))), or it could be free-for-all... I don't think I've ever seen such an option at tournaments...

P.S. And a small question for Qwerty... as I understand it, you'll want to participate in the tournament as a player?? Then, if there are no objections (this is to everyone), I can try to prepare a map again...

P.P.S. You do not need to be in a clan to participate. But within the tournament, we could hold a Competitive event for clans...

I would also like to try my hand at the tournament.

Hooray!!!! There will be another tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic II! I'm all for it! I would prefer a time limit for completing the maps (even though I probably won't win, at least there will be no restrictions, and I can have fun).

Due to technical reasons, I couldn't participate in the previous tournament, and that's why I'm very happy about the new one. It would be interesting to play a game focused on the fastest hero leveling. Or an arena match.

2 Silvanis
Regarding the speedrun tournament. In the second Heroes game, there are 6 levels of troops, so Titans belong to the sixth level.
Regarding building structures... In the last speedrun tournament, I didn't build a single structure at all; I played as the Titanic Castle.
Maximizing the hero's stats is a good idea – what's so crazy about it? And it's very easy to measure – by the amount of hero experience. In case of equal experience, the sum of primary skills comes into play – so it's all quite simple...

Clearing Utopia as quickly as possible is, as I understand it, a quest in a sense. The path to this Utopia is unlikely to be paved with roses. In general, I definitely like the idea of a quest map, but it should be noted that, from a purely formal point of view, it doesn't differ from a speedrun – the winning condition is simply not "defeat everyone," but to capture Utopia (remember one of the campaigns?).

I ask all interested parties to actively continue the discussion.

2 Alan
I will, of course, be very happy if you hold another tournament. However, in this case, will you not play again? It seems unfair: you work, and everyone else has fun... So, decide, there are 3 options:
1. I host the tournament – you play;
2. You host the tournament – I play;
3. You host the tournament – we both play!!!

...I also had a slightly crazy idea... a speedrun game for clearing the Dragon Utopia, where you can set the AI opponents to be either allied with the player (for more adrenaline 8)), or all against each other... I don't think I've ever seen this option in tournaments...

In my opinion, it's a VERY good idea! I'm all for it!:)

Secondly, in Heroes II there are 6 levels of troops, so Titans belong to the sixth level.

:o Completely slipped my mind... Typo. I was just writing something about 3 and 5...

Added after 12 minutes
I would also really like to participate...:)

Well, it seems like we have gathered enough people to make the Tournament worthwhile, so we need to get down to specifics...

1. Dates. My proposal: 21.12.2006 - 23.01.2007.

I think this will suit everyone... and the players: a month is a reasonable time for the game... and the organizers: a map can be prepared with a good margin in a week...

2. How to play... for now, there are two separate ideas: leveling up and completing the game as quickly as possible... I think it would be good to decide on this by the weekend.

3. Map size... well, the thing is, I found literally the only acceptable option for speed among the small maps. And I think it will be difficult to find a second map so that the dynamics are not lost... therefore, the most acceptable option is a medium-sized map, although all your wishes will be taken into account.

P.S. Qwerty, I already wrote in the previous Tournament that I don't play 2 very well, so it's absolutely not difficult for me to prepare a map and not play... so I think the option: I create - you participate, will suit everyone. After all, it's much better to compete with you than to get another underdog...

It turns out to be somewhat unfair: you work, and everyone else enjoys it...

and then I also get a lot of pleasure, watching how my work is positively evaluated... 8))

P.P.S. For now, the following have expressed a preliminary desire (or at least participate in the discussion) to play:
Qwerty
Sergh
AlexeyPank
Silvanis
Kyle
Inquisitor
Isabel
Zingel
VDV_forever

In my opinion, a month is a bit too long. In that time, professionals will be able to develop a strategy and will definitely win. Half a month is enough. IMHO. This is if the goal is to minimize the game time. If the goal is to level up a hero, then it's fine.

I'm also ready to participate in the game. 1. The timeframe is good, as is the duration. 2. There are two options: speedrun and strategic gameplay. 3. The map size is medium.

P.S. Qwerty, I already told you in the previous tournament that I'm not very good at playing Heroes 2, so it won't be a problem for me to prepare a map and not participate... so I think the option where I create the map and you participate will suit everyone. After all, it's much better to compete with you than to get another underdog... and then I also get a lot of pleasure watching how my work is positively evaluated... 8))

Heh, heh, that's exactly what I need;)

P.S. Let's set a limit on the hero's level, so we can diversify our tournaments, because honestly, playing for speed is getting a bit boring...

Best regards, VDV_

Let's allocate 7 weeks of game time, seven fortnights for hero development. The map shouldn't have any ruins that grant level increases. (if they even exist in the second game)