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Does Scorpion or anyone from the organizers actually care about your streams? Or should I, as a big fan of your streams, support you in this matter? Psyche_7, my friend, this is pure speculation. I'm on Kilgore's side in this "conflict" (though, who am I?), but I'm against manipulating public opinion :smile18: If you don't stream, I'll become a fan of RomarioGrom :smile29:
Exactly, Kolyan, your hunger is clearly not for this topic;), keep streaming, you're doing a great job.
17.01.2012 group B Kilgor (red, Inferno, Calh/Calh) def twaryna (blue, swamp, Tazar/Tazar) 2SM4d(3), 122 My first setup was CHOCOLATE!! Two external dwellings of Efreeti right near the castle, tons of gold on the respawn, on 113 it was easy to reach two adjacent zones (one behind the wolves, the other behind the golems), but the opponent took the resource on 112. We played the next setup.
111. With Calh I got three stacks of Gog, immediately captured the external dwelling of Gog, resulting in a stack of 30. Ran fairly well, bought 5 heroes, I see a prison, a Griffin Conservatory, a Dwarf Cottage, and tons of gold. Also, literally two steps away, an external dwelling of Devils, albeit with a tough guard (50-99 Storm Elementals). Also, Marusya showed up in the tavern. 112 I find an external dwelling of Pit Fiends, in the prison a level 1 Ice Lady, I bring her to the exit to the secondary zone (Barbarians), the guard is 48 Gargoyles, for some reason I don't decide to attack. 113 I bring Demons from the castle, break through the Gargoyles. The respawn turned out to be poor. I try to transfer the army to Calh via a chain, but the chain epically fails, I have to return with the main, take the army, on the last move I reach the Troglodytes guarding the Griffin Conservatory. 114 I take the secondary zone. I check the Griffin Conservatory (3-4). 115 I break through the port via trail-less terrain, see an external marketplace. I'm thinking how to transfer troops to capture the Dwarf Cottage and capture the Pit Fiends. 116 Nothing works out. I don't take the Dwarf Cottage, nor the Pit Fiends. And I make a colossal mistake! Seeing a hero who brings gold in the tavern, I decide to buy him, I buy... and it turns out I didn't build anything in the castle. And I need Pit Fiends, I build a marketplace in the secondary, exchange resources almost to zero, and..... I don't make it, literally 1 second short :( 117 I finally take the Pit Fiends, take the Dwarf Cottage and build a Citadel for Pit Fiends. I jump with Calh into the portal, want to rush the opponent because there's nothing to demonize, all the meat is lost in battles. 121 Nothing works out with the growth delivery chain, I put Calh on speed boost on 2 Efreeti, and the opponent catches me with a scout hero (Luna), because of the damned ballista I can't buy him off, I lose 2 Efreeti. 122 Luna doesn't have enough movement to cover the rest of the army. I make a delivery, decide not to take the main hero, plan to reach the opponent's castle with the scout hero and buy him there (and the castle turned out to be far), I cover Luna, she buys herself off, I run to the opponent's castle and don't make it by about a couple of days :D . 123 The opponent with a scout hero and the entire army reaches my scout hero also with the entire army :D . An epic battle occurs (about an hour), in which I emerge victorious (morale on Gog 3 times decided everything). Thanks for the game.
I confirm. In the first game, an external dwelling of Wyverns near the castle, Lizardmen built, everything great, only the sole path is blocked by 50-99 Iron Golems guarding a prison and something else. I didn't decide to break through them right away, although I probably could have charged in with upgraded Lizardmen, but I chickened out. I tried to go around them - it was working in principle, but I decided not to suffer and took 112. As it turned out, that was correct, because playing against two external dwellings of Efreeti would not have been très bien) We played the second game. Starting with Tazar + Bron in the tavern with 6 Basilisks and Lizardmen built. Also Dimer came, then Luna and someone else. I decided to play. On day 3 I had a great stack of Basilisks, but I ran out incompetently and essentially wasted 3 days messing around. On the respawn I spotted - 2 Dwarf Cottages right near the castle, one Crypt, a couple of Shields, a passage to the subway behind the Mages, and an external dwelling of Hydras behind many Zealots.. I didn't decide to capture the first one.. By the end of day 3 I broke through to a Necro adjacent zone with Tazar, and sent Luna there - I put everyone nearby through the stables, Luna took a secondary zone, and Tazar went deeper into the zone to capture money. The plan was to stick Hydras in the Citadel and capture the external dwelling on the second week. Everything worked out great with the economy, everything was built except the Bulls in the Citadel, and there was plenty of money for buying out. On day 7 I placed Tazar at the Dwarf Cottage, and decided to roam with the meat in the Necro adjacent zone. On 121 with 2 Hydras I took 2 Dwarf Cottages (almost stupidly lost a Hydra on the max settings) and sent Tazar to the stables. As a cockroach I went to capture the Shield + 3 and set up a minimal chain. At the same time, Luna went further roaming in the Necro land and ran into the main hero Kilgor on speed boost - attacked. He had no money to buy himself off, and in the end we got an excellent exchange - I gave 20 Gnolls, took 1 Efreet, and the opponent ran away (minus another Efreet and the ballista). Nearby there was a scout hero with meat, I could have attacked him, I had about 5 seconds to decide, but I didn't dare... Luna only had Fire Wall, though Bron wasn't far with a scroll of Archery.. After the game - I reloaded and fought that battle - if I played it smart, I could have gotten a decent ramen and chased his hero, but I didn't have enough experience to gauge the forces. On 122 Kilgor's scout hero gets more meat, he runs Luna off (he immediately bought himself out in his home castle), moves closer to me. With Tazar I'm literally a few squares short of reaching him. I decide to buy everything available, transfer it to level 1 Bron, and attack. I think the meat advantage is on my side. But it turned out not to be) I also messed up and didn't build a marketplace in the secondary - I could have exchanged a good amount of resources... In the end I upgraded 30 Lizardmen, 5 Wyverns, and took some Flies. I could have also bought Basilisks and Gnolls. Also along the way I carelessly fought with Tazar against Unicorns and for no reason lost a Goose and 2 Wasps( In the end I attacked with Bron anyway. In principle I might have been able to pull it off if the Gogs hadn't gotten morale 3 times in the battle, but it was difficult. If I hadn't blundered and had bought absolutely all the meat, I definitely would have won this battle of "titans". But I didn't have enough experience to assess my own strength. Thanks for the game!
Andryukha, when did you first start breaking into Griffin Conservatories??? Remember? ...
Honestly, I don't remember, Tanya. I can say the difference was obvious. For example, starting in a newbie group, on Jebus Cross I considered getting out on the 3rd-4th week sheer chic :eek: (even though I didn't play Jebus Cross, the point of the skill is clear), after the group I was already able to take Dragon Utopias on the 3rd and Griffin Conservatories on the 2nd :D
And if I had watched videos, I think I would have learned everything sooner. Well, if this is Ridmi, then there's nothing to talk about ))
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
It feels like someone was personally offended (Yavdeta?).
It's quite clear that the people representing the novice judges completely discredited themselves. I don't want to blame Tanya, but it's obvious that she was influenced by the opinions of petty and incompetent judges.
P.S. I won't bring myself as an example, but LeBron, for example, won against "Guru Captain" in the first game on the Portal, after which he was accused of cheating. Maybe we shouldn't, - I'm addressing the reasonable people here, I'm sure they are here too, maybe we shouldn't imitate the Portal users in such an incorrect attitude?
Земля нуля. Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
Zzzloi
14 years ago
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Grinding to level 10 with my Warlock should be easy.
Dirty_Player
14 years ago
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If Kilgore is a clone, then what's the point of this discussion? 50 points and a ban for the clone.
If he's not a clone, then disqualifying him from the tournament after the recording is incorrect. Although Kilgore's IP and readme don't match.
Now that everything is clear, by the way, I'm addressing all the "defenders" like R55Max.
This should have been said when it wasn't clear who was who. Theoretically, it's possible, so discussing it before identifying the player is simply pointless.
Now, even a hedgehog understands that if it's Readmi, then those who wanted him removed from the tournament were right.
And you can't always make a judgment based on a single game. For example, I had a similar case. A participant from a previous novice tournament, gnoll, appeared, and before the tournament, he showed a very high level of play when we played against him, considering that he was playing my suggested template for the first time. Only due to my greater experience, I managed to win against him with difficulty.
When I talked to him, he told me something about replays, and so on...
There were several such games. I remember you also praised some guy in your reports, saying that he had a very good approach to the game, and that he caused such emotions, which means he was playing very well....
It's quite possible that an unknown player, a newcomer, will show a very good level of play. SevenSun also showed a strong game that wasn't typical for a newcomer; I think that even at that time, his game wouldn't be any worse than Readmi's game (everything is very relative)
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
It is quite possible that an unknown player, a newcomer, will show a very good game. SevenSan, for example, showed a game that was not typical for a beginner; I think that even at that time, his game would not be much worse than Readme's game (everything is very relative).
Don't you dare touch SevenSan:D If Kilgore had played as much as SevenSan, there wouldn't even be any questions!!!!
It feels like someone was offended deeply (perhaps Yavdeta?).
It's quite clear to me that the people representing the novice judges completely discredited themselves. I don't want to blame Tanya, but it's obvious that she was swayed by the opinions of petty and incompetent judges.
And who are the judges?))) Read the first page (further in the text, there are unflattering insults directed at you, (censored)).
Grindan level 10 should take a Griffin Conservatory without problems, in my opinion
+1 I took down nearly 30 regular bears with Grindan level 10 and 10 manticores. How is a max-level Griffin Conservatory any worse? The same oil and efreets methodically tear apart the griffins.
If Kilgore is a clone, then what's the point of this discussion? 50 points and a ban for the clone. If he's not a clone, then disqualifying him from the tournament after the recording is wrong. Although Kilgore's IP and readme don't match.
Where did you see the word CLONE???:mad:
And now to everyone!!! If you're too lazy to read the entire message history, then it's better not to say anything!!! If you don't know the approximate level of all 56 players in the tournament and haven't delved into the save files of their games, then it's better to stay silent:smile51:
+1 I used to take down nearly 30 regular bears with Grindan at level 10 and 10 Manticores. How is a maxed Griffin Conservatory any worse? Same deal—Efreeti methodically tear apart the Griffins.
5 Efreeti will take down 5 stacks of 40 Griffins each? They'll take -1 from the retaliation of the very first stack. And under a Mage, they could even take -2. Maybe I misunderstood something.
It is quite obvious to me that the people representing the novice judges have completely discredited themselves. I don't want to blame Tanya, but it is obvious to me that she was influenced by the opinions of petty and incompetent judges.
Thank you for your attention. You are free to go!!!:smile24:
Alright, I was just kidding. I have nothing better to do than clone myself as a newbie.
I don't know who Kilgor is, although I have my suspicions. In any case, it doesn't matter. It's definitely a clone!
I completely agree with the post about the Leader. This can't be happening. It's a clone of someone from the previous tournament, one of those newbies who spams on all the portals under different accounts, most likely SevenSan.
P.S. Yes, I remember. When they didn't allow me to participate in the newbie tournament, it was unfair, and I still hold a grudge against those who made that decision.
And SevenSan played on his newbie account just as well as I did back then, and he was allowed to participate. That was a real LOL and a mistake by the judges and organizers.
P.S.S. Taking advantage of the moment, SevenSan wins by mass-playing a lot of games, but there are smart people who win with their brains, understanding of the game, and analysis. You can learn to play quickly, but... Kilgor's story strongly smells of cloning.