Skip to content

Posts from "Новичок-2012. Winter"

5.0 (3 ratings)
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Group A
15.01.2012 Tomash (red, Dungeon, Shakhti, Shakhti) def JustObserver (blue, Rampart, Kyrre, Crag Hack) 2SM4d(3) 211

We started without restarts, Shakhti immediately dropped 2 stacks. On the surface, next to the castle, a stable was visible. I sent a Dragon Fly through the stable - immediately the corner of the Minotaur external dwelling appeared - we played.

I only got 110 Troglodytes. One road led to ГО, the other to the Lotos Eye. I roamed around the respawn, took the Minotaur external dwelling, and cleared chests, piles of gold, and gems in a chain. Troglodytes kept melting away. The desire to break the Eye on the first week grew less and less... I never dared to. On day 121, with 20 Minotaurs, I cleared 2 Nagua Banks, then a Dwarf Cottage, passed through the subway to the Necro adjacent zone, another Dwarf Cottage, split up in the main, went along the road to hit the Eye, saw a Griffin Conservatory with 100+, took a secondary Castle, had a lot of gold, started building with Angels in mind, and at the main, Castle and Manticores.

On day 131, I took the level 3 Griffin Conservatory, saw a passage to the treasure zone, and started clearing it. In principle, the treasure zone was good: a library, an Angel external dwelling, a Sword +6 and a Shield +4 All, a Cape of +2 Speed. Shakhti had already mastered Earth Magic by the time of breaking the Griffin Conservatory, so everything was cleared without issues under Oil.

True, from 6 Dragon Fly Hives I only pulled out 36 Wyverns, but I had a couple of Pandora's Boxes for experience, and Shakhti had absolutely everything at Expert level, with room for just one last skill.

Meanwhile, at the main, a level 5 Mage Guild with Implosion; at the secondary, the Angels didn't get built due to a lack of 1000 gold, though if they had been built, there would have been nothing left to buy them with...

On day 143, I took the last Dragon Fly Hive, split up to double my mana, and set up at the start near ГО (Gold Dragons). I had to feed them fifty of my remaining Troglodytes. The army was 6 Angels, 43 Greater Minotaurs, 36 Wyverns, 38 Evil Eyes, 26 Greater Medusas, and a Ballista (Expert + Attack 25).

I found one quest artifact, gave it to Ainaien, received 20k experience, Expert Air Magic, Wisdom, Sorcery, Intelligence, a great Dragon Fly with an Implosion ring for 500... but it didn't come in handy...

At the opponent's respawn, right on the road, I saw Boots of Speed, took them. By exactly day 147, I took the main. In the visible part of the treasure zone, I saw enemy movement; the hero disappeared, apparently by Town Portal. I ran at full speed to the opponent's last unexplored secondary, found Crag Hack there, attacked with the Dragon Fly to probe and throw in some missile fire. I didn't do much damage, but at least I understood what I'd be dealing with. Serious parameters, primarily attack power, and relatively little meat.

On his turn, Crag Hack attacked. My first turn was with the Angels. What really decided things was that his Tactics wasn't maxed out. This allowed my Minotaurs and Wyverns to fly in the first round after Oil, essentially deciding the outcome of the battle. Although Crag Hack dealt 1800 damage with Armageddon, shearing off my Minotaurs, Angels, and Wyverns, he also lost almost everything except 25-30 Grand Elves. He surrendered, then attacked again, splitting the Grand Elves and a bit of swamp meat into 7 stacks, trying to force me to surrender because I only had 2 stacks of shooters + 1 Wyvern left, and in Armageddon duels, the number of stacks is what matters...

But I also had a trump card up my sleeve. Although I could have retreated with Tactics, I didn't. I calmly calculated the HP of my stacks. It turned out that the Evil Eyes had a full 30 HP more than 580, which was exactly how much damage my Armageddon was dealing :cool:

In the end, Crag Hack was defeated. GG WP.

A very entertaining game, especially the ending. :smile14:
Attachments 2
2 files attached • Total size: 387.3 KB
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
A_I_D, Messiah, Pyre, Necrotal, Dimast, Snooppy :smile20: :smile13: :smile13: :smile13:
If everyone else connects, we'll finish the tournament by the end of the month at this rate:smile44: :smile12:
If anyone has connection problems, let us know right away! Don't put it off until the last weeks...
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Scorpiona it seems my post from page 25 wasn't taken into account.
In reply to Tomash
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Tomash
Group A
15.01.2012 Tomash (red, Dungeon, Troglodyte, Troglodyte) def JustObserver (blue, Rampart, Kyrre, Crag Hack) 2SM4d(3) 211

started without restarts, immediately the troglodytes gave 2 stacks, on the surface, next to the castle a stable is visible, I run the roach through the stable - the corner of the minotaur external dwelling immediately appeared - we play.

only 110 troglodytes total, one road to the GO, the other to the LoTS eye, I roam the respawn, took the minotaur external dwelling, clear chests, spider huts, gems in a chain, troglodytes melt away, breaking through to the eye on the first is less and less appealing.... never decided to. on 121 with 20 minotaurs I clear 2 naga banks, then the dwarf cottage, enter the metro to the necro adjacency, another dwarf cottage, break into the main, go along the road to hit the eye, see a 100+ Griffin Conservatory, take a secondary Castle, a lot of gold, start building up with an eye towards angels, on the main castle and manticores.

on 131 I take the 3rd Griffin Conservatory, see a passage to the treasure zone, start clearing it. Basically the treasure zone is good, library, angel external dwelling, sword +6 and shield +4 all, cloak of +2 speed, troglodyte expertized earth magic back when breaking the Griffin Conservatory, under mass slow everything is broken without issue.

though out of 6 Dragon Fly Hives I pulled only 36 wyverns, but a couple of pandoras for exp and troglodyte has expert practically everything, there's room for 1 last skill.

meanwhile on the main Mage Guild 5 with implosion, on the secondary literally due to a lack of 1000 gold the angels didn't get built, though if they had, there would be nothing to buy them with...

on 143 I take the last Dragon Fly Hive, break myself doubling mana, stand at the start of the GO (gold dragons), had to feed them fifty of the remaining troglodytes, army of 6 angels, 43 greater minotaurs, 36 wyrms, 38 evil eyes, 26 greater medusas and a ballista (expert + attack 25)

found one quest artifact, gave it to Inaina, got 20k exp, expert air, wisdom, magic, intelligence, a great roach with implosion of 500.... but it wasn't needed....

on the opponent's respawn right along the road I see boots, take them, exactly by 147 I take the main. in the visible part of the treasure zone there is enemy movement, the hero disappears, apparently Town Portal, I run at full speed to the opponent's last unexplored secondary, find Crag Hack there, attack with the roach to feel him out and throw a few shots, didn't really throw many, but at least understood what I'd be dealing with, serious stats, first of all attack power, and fairly little meat

on his turn Crag attacks, I have first strike on angels, what really decided things was that he had under-leveled tactics, that allowed my minotaurs and wyverns to fly in the first round after mass slow, essentially deciding the outcome of the battle. though Crag bounced back with an explosion of 1800, shaving off my minotaurs, angels and wyverns, but he himself lost everything except 25-30 grand elves, he buys himself out, and attacks again, splitting the grand elves and a little bit of swamp meat into 7 stacks, deciding to force me to buy myself out, since I only had 2 stacks of shooters left + 1 wyvern, and in exchanging explosions the deciding factor is the number of stacks....

but I also had an ace up my sleeve, though I could have run away due to tactics - I didn't, calmly calculated the HP of my stacks, it turned out that the evil eyes had a full 30 HP more than 580, and that's exactly how much my Armageddon hit for :cool:

resulting in the defeat of Crag Hack, gg wp

a very entertaining game, especially the ending, :smile14:
A very contradictory situation - on one hand, there was enough gold for hordes in the castle and nearly a full buyout on the first day, Crag leveled up well in the first week - something around 12-2-3-2 with expert attack, logistics and air, the Dragon Utopias gave decent artifacts, and overall artifacts were in order, on the other hand, not a single one of the elf heroes ever appeared, haste was never found (even despite having Terek - in the end I even bought out about 10 heroes just to dig up literacy, but it never came), as for secondaries - one was blocked by a GO, the second by 50-99 gr. archers, the third - into the swamp behind gr. pegasuses. When it was time to enter the treasure zone, expert earth was very needed, but at the decisive moment defense leveled up 2 times (of which 1 time I had to refuse tactics, which, obviously, also decided things), so I had to turn back and finish getting the necessary experience at another passage. Next to the max ulik on the swamp respawn on the second week, a wyvern external dwelling was discovered, thanks to which I was able to get closer to the opponent in terms of their numbers.

There were very many factors that influenced the final: and Crag's lack of mana, and the advantage in speed, and the under-leveled tactics, and the successful spells in the Mage Guild of the opponent, all of this accumulated into a disappointing defeat, but the game was beautiful - thank you for it.
In reply to avstrolopitek
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
avstrolopitek
Scorpiona it seems my post from page 25 wasn't taken into account...
okay, I'll fix it next time:smile01:
In reply to Scorpiona
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Scorpiona
A_I_D, Messiah, Pyre, Necrotal, Dimast, Snooppy :smile20: :smile13: :smile13: :smile13:
If everyone else connects, we'll finish the tournament by the end of the month at this rate:smile44: :smile12:
If anyone has connection problems, let us know right away! Don't put it off until the last weeks...


I have problems... but that's nothing new:D
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Scorpiona, you forgot to give me 0 points for avstrolopitek.
In reply to Vampi_r
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
4erny Jedi
Scorpiona, you forgot to give me 0 points for avstrolopitek.
See above;)
avstrolopitek
Scorpiona, my post from page 25 wasn't taken into account...
Scorpiona
Okay, I'll fix it next time:smile01:
:smile08:
In reply to scooter72
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
scooter72
So what? My opponent in the tournament also left without saying "gg" and didn't write anything. I'm not writing a victory report... My opponent still has time until February 20 to respond and finish the game... I just think that it's bad manners to award yourself a win without the opponent's consent, even if everything is within the rules...
Okay. One more time. The opponent lost his main hero and all artifacts and then left. If he wants to finish the game, no problem. And confirmation, in my opinion, means that he agrees with the result. And calling someone a "bad manner" without having played with him seems strange, don't you think? I, for example, always gave auto-wins, including in tournaments.
Messiah
In my opinion, you should have written "gg" instead of just waiting for 2 weeks while your opponent's nerves give out...
Why should I write "gg"? Both of us lost our main heroes, I have a hero and 2 mages from the Tower. I have 3 Castles with 1000 and a lot of unbought creatures, and you have 1 secondary hero with 500. A hero with 100 attack? My hero had 70, considering that I didn't level him up much. I don't see any argument. If you needed to leave, you could have just written that. I explained why I don't want to save and continue the game, and continuing the game implied agreement with me.

I suggest we end our discussion here. If the opponent agrees to finish the game, I'll be waiting in Ace. I think changing the result in the table won't be a problem. If scooter72 wants to say anything else, I'll be waiting in PM. After all, the discussion has long gone beyond the tournament and turned into a flood.
In reply to 7z
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
7z
Okay, one more time. The opponent lost their main hero and all artifacts, and then left the game. If they want to finish the game, no problem. And, in my opinion, the confirmation means that they agree with the result. And calling someone a "BMer" without having played against them seems a bit strange, don't you think? I, for example, always gave automatic wins, including in tournaments.

I apologize... I must have missed something or not read carefully enough... I thought the situation wasn't so clear-cut... I didn't call anyone a "BMer," I just wrote that the situation, as I saw it, smelled like "BMing"... I apologize...
In reply to 7z
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
7z

Where should we continue the game? Both of us are in a bad position, I have a hero and two mages from the Tower coming, and you have one secondary hero with 500 troops. I have 3 castles with 1000 troops each, and a lot of unbought creatures. Your archer has 100 attack? Mine had 70, and I didn't even level her up much. I don't see any arguments here. If you wanted to quit, you should have said so. I explained why I don't want to save, and continuing the game implied agreement with me.
Okay, then let's finish the game from that point, if you think you're doing so well? )
That's when we were talking about saving, the history will confirm it. And your answer is also there...
I win - we call it a draw, because I really put Valesk in a bad position myself. But that was in a hurry.
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
I think it would be better for you guys to replay from the point where everything ended; that would be the right thing to do... Sorry for the off-topic post...
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
16.01.2012 SolncevKoT (Red, Tower, Nila, Nila) d-neez (Blue, Barbarian, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) 2sm4d (3) 142
113 captured a Rampart, 114 + 2 Mage dwellings
In the end, he got a level 5 magic artifact, but didn't use it.
There were Wings nearby, but he didn't take them. The opponent attacked me and lost.
Thanks for a good game.
In reply to SolncevKoT
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
SolncevKoT
16.01.2012 SolncevKoT (Red, Tower, Nila, Nila) d-neez (Blue, Barbarian, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) 2sm4d (3) 142
113 captured a Rampart, 114 + 2 Mage dwellings
In the end, he got a level 5 magic artifact but didn't use it.
There were Wings nearby, but he didn't take them. The opponent attacked him and lost.
Thanks for the good game.

RRRRRRRRRRRRR WRITE YOUR GROUP!!!! + DEF

Could you provide more details?
I'm still interested in what the heroes' stats were in the Fortress Battle and what army they had!:smile14:
In reply to Tomash
User Avatar
14 years ago
Auto-translated
Tomash
Group A
15.01.2012 Tomash (red, Necromancer, Clavius, Clavius) def A_I_D (blue, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) 2SM4d(3) 134

Started without restarts, had septiena and mines with 2 stacks, on 111 135 skeletons, found a lookout immediately, Griffin Conservatory behind lotsoa of archers, external dwelling of vampires, a couple of stat booster upgrades for attack and knowledge (would have preferred 1 experience crystal :rolleyes: ). The fifth or sixth hero was a wise woman, and she even leveled up excellently, got Earth, not a single junk skill, but Clavius also got Armorer, Tactics, decided that leveling him was more reliable. Took the vampires, built them too, on 114 broke through the lotsoa of ice spirits to the secondary, on 115 reached it — native necro secondary! I manage to build vampires there too, burn the lookout, see 2 external dwellings of skeletons and another Griffin Conservatory. At that point money runs out, I scatter roach heroes around the respawn, but besides a couple of treasure chests nothing smells of money, I barely manage to build a citadel in both towns, but on 121 I have exactly 1350 gold, Clavius is loitering around the Griffin Conservatory, mastering expert Necromancy, on 122 I finally bring all the vampires, 29 of them, and 230 skeletons, the Griffin Conservatory turns out to be a 2-stack, I lose 1 vampire. On that same secondary there is another Griffin Conservatory, a 1-stack, on the way to the portal from the main I take an artifact +2 attack for 20+ snipers behind it, apparently a quest one, but I can't find the hut for it.
On 124 I break through the portal and another 2-stack Griffin Conservatory, the portal leads to snow, I don't feel like going there, but nearby on my main there's an exit upwards, I go there, come out on grass, rejoice, hope to reach the opponent on the 2nd week, but when I got on the road, I went the wrong way, came to a Conflux secondary, already colored by the opponent. I take it, it's already 131, I'm having growth problems, the hope of finding money failed, everything on the grass is already picked up, no nagabanks in sight, I bought a hero for roach warfare, and that's all I could afford. Going at the opponent without growth with 5 angels 28 vampires and 350 skeletons is somehow risky, I don't know what army he has, nor what magic, I see some guard, go at it, passage to the treasure zone, nearby a Dragon Fly Hive for 38 gr vampires — almost lost an angel on them, but got lucky, 8 ducks, right at the entrance to the treasure zone behind the unicorns a ring +1 HP, I take it, and a Dragon Utopia, it turned out to be a minimal one, no special drain, so -18 vampires, it gave money which I have nowhere to spend, since after I left the opponent cut the chain, shackles and red orb, among anything useful — a cloak +10% Necromancy and a medal for +1 morale.

Ivor went after me into the treasure zone, stopped 1 turn away from Clavius, but didn't attack. On my turn I break the nearby guard of 100+ cerberi for the Necromancy, +40 skeletons, and attack, my angels move first, out of 38 grans only 3 remain, the opponent casts Oil, tries to cut down the angels, but since the dragons waited, the angels were surrounded by his troops, so without burning his own, he couldn't have struck, 2 of my angels survived, Haste on the skeletons, and in 2 rounds it was all over.

Good game, seemed like a chocolate layout, septiena, external dwelling of vampires, native secondary, 3 Griffin Conservatories, but the money bottleneck almost ruined everything, since I couldn't properly fight with roaches, nor bring in growth....
Overall there was suspense, since the opponent managed to build dragons, which evened the score on 7th level creatures, and if he had attacked himself, positioning correctly and getting first turn for his angels, Oil — closing off the elves, and he could well have shot down the skeletons, Ivor has expert Attack and Archery, with an attack parameter of 12 :eek:

thanks for the game ;)
One turn short. Did you really think I wouldn't attack? And not 12, but 11.

Statistics

Welcome our newest member: recijeb