Which great class ability do you dislike? — General

Silvanis

12/9/2006 6:11 PM UTC

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Well, the experience gain might be the same, but you can't achieve the same results in terms of troops – the army of low-level heroes will quickly perish, so having 8 heroes at level 20 is also unrealistic.
Reaching level 30 is very difficult, I agree. But we are discussing the abilities themselves here, not the difficulty or ease of achieving them.

С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
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Silovik

12/9/2006 9:03 PM UTC

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In general, the topic, in my opinion, is predictable. The human super ability is the worst, as is the fact that the Furies are the most powerful and beautiful on level 2, and that the archer-skeletons are the best monster, regardless of weight class. Also, training and necromancy, and the Necropolis faction, are considered cheating, etc. If you disagree that the human's 3rd "cologne" is the worst ability of all, please speak up, but with justification!!!!

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Sergh

12/9/2006 11:25 PM UTC

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Silovik;52619

Those who disagree that the 3rd "cologne" ability is the worst of all, please share your opinion, but with justification!!!!

The mage ability is worse because by this level, you usually already know all the necessary magic, and in PRINCIPLE, this ability doesn't change anything.
Elemental Fury is worse... IMHO.
For a Knight, achieving the ability at least gives all the necessary skills, but leveling up a Warlock WITHOUT magic just for Elemental Fury... in my opinion, is very debatable.

Мечты сбываются, просто нужно уметь правильно мечтать.

Жизнь нужно прожить так, чтобы Боги в восторге предложили еще одну...
P.S. может мне и предложили, просто я не помню :smile44:

Silvanis

12/9/2006 11:30 PM UTC

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I agree, there's no significant advantage, and most importantly, it clutters the skill slots with various useless things like summoning magic (which I think is terrible) and forces you to sacrifice such great abilities as mass haste...
But, admit it, getting all the spells and being able to cast them at the expert level is really cool!
By the way, I've never leveled up this ability; does it happen to grant mass spells as well? If it does, then it's definitely the best, and all other abilities can go to the trash!

С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
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Silovik

12/10/2006 6:52 AM UTC

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Sergh;52643

For a Knight, achieving the ability requires at least having all the necessary skills, but leveling up a Warlock without magic just to get Elemental Fury... I think that's very debatable.

What about the Ash's Patronage skill? I've used it many times. Secrets of Light and Guardian Angel, instead of mass haste, also don't seem very good.

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Darth Saruman

1/27/2007 1:30 PM UTC

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we hope that in future patches, the mega-abilities of the Knight will be changed...

Сила Тьмы - в бессилии света.
Нет невежества - есть Знание

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Silovik

1/27/2007 7:04 PM UTC

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Darth Saruman;64670

we hope that in future patches, the mega-abilities of the Knight will be changed...

Why? The main task of Haven is money; make money and live happily. No super-duper ability will help with an army of paladins and archers!!!!

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For the rest, towards the end, money is not needed at all except for buying an army!!!

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Darth Saruman

1/27/2007 10:24 PM UTC

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in general, giving Knights a mega-ability that would grant troops a combat spirit bonus at the start of each turn would be a great addition.

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Нет невежества - есть Знание

Tim17

2/21/2007 2:22 PM UTC

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The demons have a noticeable strength advantage, not the Knights. It's interesting for the Necropolis faction, but the army advantage isn't as obvious (I tested it using cheats).

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Magnus

2/22/2007 4:00 PM UTC

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Sergh;52643

The wizards' ability is worse because by this level, you usually already know all the necessary spells, and in principle, this ability doesn't change anything.
Elemental Fury is worse... IMHO.
For the Knight, at least achieving the ability gives you all the necessary skills, but leveling up a Warlock WITHOUT magic just for Elemental Fury... I think it's very debatable.

Wizards need this ability because they will learn all the spells. I leveled it up for Zehir. And then, with the "All-Knowing" skill, you get 4 skills for leveling up + 4 magic school skills. After all, all magic schools are given, and in a normal game, you have to find spells, level up the skills of that magic, but here there are many more spells, it's very useful in the campaign, although I defeated the Overlord, Biara, and Markel with Zehir using Banish, but then I had 9 skills:
light magic
dark magic
chaos magic
summoning magic
higher education
spellcasting
attack
+ you can also take 2 additional skills.