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Town, victory!
Yeah, we were brutally unlucky, but what can you do. I don't think the mafia was significantly weaker than the town; of course, there are a few downsides, but if it weren't for the bad luck, we could have pulled it off.
Now regarding the players. First, for the first time, I can evaluate everyone who played this round, not just the town as before. So I'll start with my team.
Our leader is Tox. It amused me that he blew his cover with his very first post: as always, openly, he started talking in the thread about what was most relevant to him at that moment, namely recruitment. It was always like that when he was the GM: if Tox was clarifying something, you could expect that action during the night. But whatever, nobody noticed. It was good analyzing town roles and who would go where with Tox. Yes, there were mistakes during the analysis, but that's more my fault. Also, Tox clearly figured out Gerald (know how? Based on who he visited at night. I didn't even expect it to be confirmed, I only hoped). He played well.
Arandor. He's a bit of a bore, of course, but it must be admitted that if we had listened to his advice a couple of times, the situation might have been better.
Amko, Nebo -- well done.
As for the town:
Hostor disappointed me, honestly. Perhaps this can be explained by the fact that he was bored due to the lack of clues, but honestly, he talked nonsense the whole game; not a single insightful post. Ah, well, okay, there was one when he was outlining night moves, though almost nobody listened to him anyway (he shouldn't have been so selfish, Kosha's role was more important). In the end, he wasn't objective. He'll probably say now: "Cop, you're just butt-hurting because you were figured out!", maybe even a bit ruder. But I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. At first, it was funny, then it became sad. You simply consider whoever expresses themselves more sharply to be mafia, and Jack is an example of that. His town role was absolutely obvious, if only because it would be pointless for him to out himself as the pot if nobody suspects him of being mafia. This can already be equated to psychology, because he had no motive to draw attention to himself. And based on "olology," he came out as mafia, which confirms that the latter is a pseudoscience. My behavior was the same as always, and the reasons are simple:
1) I never give hints about my role and won't, as it's a very crude method; I consider it similar to openly revealing one's role. Town analysis cannot be rigged by adding information that the town doesn't possess—this is even written in the rules—and things like "I can touch my tongue with my nose," "I have no front teeth" (Hostor really went off with this one, thinking if he constantly gives hints about the portrait, everyone does? Naturally, I ignored the pot's teeth and joked it off) — that's exactly what I mean.
2) When I speak in the thread, I always do so with the mindset that my info is completely equal to the public knowledge. This is how I always draw my conclusions. Although there was a bit little info this time due to the lack of clues, I spoke whenever I could say something.
Although I should confess, I betrayed myself in one place: towards the end, when everyone had started openly accusing me, I made it clear that I was the pot. I would never have done that if I were town, but by then it was already insignificant. So that's how things stand. (Forgot to mention that Hostor specifically blocked me on the first night, so he subconsciously considered me mafia from then on. And after that, I could have done or said anything: he would have accused me anyway). Hostor, don't be surprised if I don't take you seriously in future games.
On the other hand, there's a relatively pleasant moment: Speer. He reasoned logically, objectively, and that plan with the voting was a bomb! :) Honestly, I didn't expect it, but if the people had supported him (plus one more person didn't sign off), the town would have handled everything very beautifully, just magnificent! Although there was one detail nobody knew: the night before, we tried to recruit Vis, as a result, Tox was voiceless, so the votes would have been equal, but that doesn't negate the beauty of the plan, since the probability of that was EXTREMELY LOW :D
Wishmaster was mostly silent, but his prophetic post about Kirkorov amazed me with its logic, especially since nobody had noticed it before. If only Hos had reasoned like Speer and Wish, or at least like one of them, I wouldn't have had to facepalm.
Kosha. Just beastly intuition :) Although I don't rule out that it wasn't only intuition. In short, I honestly liked her game, keep it up. And that fail with Toriy could have been avoided if she had believed me regarding his ND. If I were deceiving the town and talking nonsense, it would have reflected poorly on my image.
Jack, I understand, of course, that you wanted to help the town, but your habit of revealing your role... Crude, very crude. It constantly reminds me of IRL mafia, where the policeman constantly says "okay, town, I'm the commissioner, I swear. And that guy over there is mafia, I checked him at night." It's terribly boring, whether you play for the town or the mafia.
Vis played normally.
The others didn't write much or died quickly, but still, well done everyone, guys :)
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Oh yeah, most importantly: I think the best player this time was Speer, I've said everything about him.
Yeah, we were brutally unlucky, but what can you do. I don't think the mafia was significantly weaker than the town; of course, there are a few downsides, but if it weren't for the bad luck, we could have pulled it off.
Now regarding the players. First, for the first time, I can evaluate everyone who played this round, not just the town as before. So I'll start with my team.
Our leader is Tox. It amused me that he blew his cover with his very first post: as always, openly, he started talking in the thread about what was most relevant to him at that moment, namely recruitment. It was always like that when he was the GM: if Tox was clarifying something, you could expect that action during the night. But whatever, nobody noticed. It was good analyzing town roles and who would go where with Tox. Yes, there were mistakes during the analysis, but that's more my fault. Also, Tox clearly figured out Gerald (know how? Based on who he visited at night. I didn't even expect it to be confirmed, I only hoped). He played well.
Arandor. He's a bit of a bore, of course, but it must be admitted that if we had listened to his advice a couple of times, the situation might have been better.
Amko, Nebo -- well done.
As for the town:
Hostor disappointed me, honestly. Perhaps this can be explained by the fact that he was bored due to the lack of clues, but honestly, he talked nonsense the whole game; not a single insightful post. Ah, well, okay, there was one when he was outlining night moves, though almost nobody listened to him anyway (he shouldn't have been so selfish, Kosha's role was more important). In the end, he wasn't objective. He'll probably say now: "Cop, you're just butt-hurting because you were figured out!", maybe even a bit ruder. But I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. At first, it was funny, then it became sad. You simply consider whoever expresses themselves more sharply to be mafia, and Jack is an example of that. His town role was absolutely obvious, if only because it would be pointless for him to out himself as the pot if nobody suspects him of being mafia. This can already be equated to psychology, because he had no motive to draw attention to himself. And based on "olology," he came out as mafia, which confirms that the latter is a pseudoscience. My behavior was the same as always, and the reasons are simple:
1) I never give hints about my role and won't, as it's a very crude method; I consider it similar to openly revealing one's role. Town analysis cannot be rigged by adding information that the town doesn't possess—this is even written in the rules—and things like "I can touch my tongue with my nose," "I have no front teeth" (Hostor really went off with this one, thinking if he constantly gives hints about the portrait, everyone does? Naturally, I ignored the pot's teeth and joked it off) — that's exactly what I mean.
2) When I speak in the thread, I always do so with the mindset that my info is completely equal to the public knowledge. This is how I always draw my conclusions. Although there was a bit little info this time due to the lack of clues, I spoke whenever I could say something.
Although I should confess, I betrayed myself in one place: towards the end, when everyone had started openly accusing me, I made it clear that I was the pot. I would never have done that if I were town, but by then it was already insignificant. So that's how things stand. (Forgot to mention that Hostor specifically blocked me on the first night, so he subconsciously considered me mafia from then on. And after that, I could have done or said anything: he would have accused me anyway). Hostor, don't be surprised if I don't take you seriously in future games.
On the other hand, there's a relatively pleasant moment: Speer. He reasoned logically, objectively, and that plan with the voting was a bomb! :) Honestly, I didn't expect it, but if the people had supported him (plus one more person didn't sign off), the town would have handled everything very beautifully, just magnificent! Although there was one detail nobody knew: the night before, we tried to recruit Vis, as a result, Tox was voiceless, so the votes would have been equal, but that doesn't negate the beauty of the plan, since the probability of that was EXTREMELY LOW :D
Wishmaster was mostly silent, but his prophetic post about Kirkorov amazed me with its logic, especially since nobody had noticed it before. If only Hos had reasoned like Speer and Wish, or at least like one of them, I wouldn't have had to facepalm.
Kosha. Just beastly intuition :) Although I don't rule out that it wasn't only intuition. In short, I honestly liked her game, keep it up. And that fail with Toriy could have been avoided if she had believed me regarding his ND. If I were deceiving the town and talking nonsense, it would have reflected poorly on my image.
Jack, I understand, of course, that you wanted to help the town, but your habit of revealing your role... Crude, very crude. It constantly reminds me of IRL mafia, where the policeman constantly says "okay, town, I'm the commissioner, I swear. And that guy over there is mafia, I checked him at night." It's terribly boring, whether you play for the town or the mafia.
Vis played normally.
The others didn't write much or died quickly, but still, well done everyone, guys :)
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Oh yeah, most importantly: I think the best player this time was Speer, I've said everything about him.
