- What are the drawbacks of Heroes 3? (What didn't you like about it?) — General

Registered: 11/26/2006

Posts: 82

#230 12/7/2006 10:28 AM UTC

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I don't understand what could NOT be liked in this rather old MASTERPIECE?! I liked this game in every way, and that's why I overlook minor flaws, and I advise you to do the same...

:smile03: Я ВЕРНУЛСЯ!!!

In reply to Pablo N Ochoa

Registered: 11/3/2006

Posts: 117

#231 12/7/2006 11:32 AM UTC

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Yeah! It's easier to write about what you liked in Heroes. Everyone will write so much that it will be like "War and Peace."

Ich bin so allein...
Ich habe Angst...
Angst...

In reply to Darth Saruman

Registered: 11/17/2006

Posts: 1,775

#232 12/7/2006 12:12 PM UTC

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Darth Saruman;46661

Although they have another drawback - they lack that subtle charm of Heroes II! :(

Oh! Golden words! There was something in HoMM2... some kind of magic. :rolleyes: Although the skill, artifact, and spell system is terribly flawed! But... it's first love, and as they say, "a horse and a woman are always first loves"... :cool:

Darth Saruman;46661

There's also no button to buy all creatures, and there's no possibility of full-fledged map scripting! :(

I don't understand you. :( There was a button: buy maximum. :confused: There was also a maximum for specific units, and a maximum for the entire castle. But in the 5th game, I struggled when I needed to buy, say, 5 gargoyles out of 200. :mad:

In reply to Слоныш

Registered: 6/5/2006

Posts: 1,575

#233 12/7/2006 12:21 PM UTC

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Slohnish;51858

I don't understand you. :( There was a button: buy maximum. :confused: There was a maximum for specific units and a maximum for the entire castle. But in the 5th game, I struggled when I needed to buy, say, 5 gargoyles out of 200. :mad:

You enter "5" in the purchase window, where the number of creatures being purchased is displayed, and that's it... where's the struggle??

As for the 3rd game, its drawback is the weak campaign compared to the 2nd game.

Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.

In reply to Alan

Registered: 11/17/2006

Posts: 1,775

#234 12/7/2006 1:46 PM UTC

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Alan;51864

You enter the number in the purchase window, where the quantity of creatures being purchased is displayed as "5," and that's it... where's the difficulty here?

It already shows the maximum quantity you can buy by default. If I can buy 200, I have to click the "minus" button 195 times...

Or is there another way? Share it. :confused:

In reply to Слоныш

Registered: 5/23/2006

Posts: 2,071

#235 12/7/2006 2:00 PM UTC

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Slohnish;51858

...and the maximum for the entire castle...

Where is that button? It seems like it only appeared in the 4th installment. (If I'm not mistaken)

In reply to Kyle

Registered: 11/17/2006

Posts: 1,775

#236 12/7/2006 2:40 PM UTC

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A mosquito just bit me... maybe I was wrong. :( It's been a while since I played Heroes of Might and Magic III. :o But the ability to max out each unit definitely exists, and what else is needed for happiness...
By the way, I'll add the main drawback in HoMM3: imbalance, of course. The two weakest factions also get a limited magic guild... Horrible. If they are weak in magic, they should have been made incredibly strong physically. As it is... no one usually wants to play as them.

In reply to Слоныш

Registered: 5/23/2006

Posts: 2,071

#237 12/7/2006 2:43 PM UTC

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As Alan said, in the window where, for example, it says two hundred, you click with the mouse and press 5, then click the "buy" button...

In reply to Слоныш

Registered: 11/3/2006

Posts: 586

#238 12/7/2006 2:51 PM UTC

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Slohnish;51911

By the way, I'll add the main drawback in HoMM3: imbalance, of course. The two weakest factions also get a limited magic guild... Horrible. If they are weak in magic, they should have been made incredibly strong physically. But as it is... no one usually wants to play as them.

The balance in Heroes 3 is actually good. Are you talking about the Swamp and Barbarians?
The Barbarians are actually strong physically, and their heroes are good.
The Swamp faction isn't as strong, but their creatures' abilities almost compensate for that.

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

In reply to Geksorin

Registered: 8/20/2006

Posts: 715

#239 12/8/2006 8:03 AM UTC

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Swamp is a town with good defenses, but as you know, the best defense is offense, that's why Stronghold is much better than Swamp!

Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

"Истинно могуч тот, кто побеждает самого себя"

In reply to Geksorin

Registered: 11/26/2006

Posts: 82

#240 12/8/2006 10:34 AM UTC

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Let me rephrase it a bit... That's what I think...
Basically, I believe that in Heroes of Might and Magic, it's like this...
"The best defense is offense, but with the help of MAGIC, you can both strengthen and weaken both defense and offense, so the best thing in Heroes is MAGIC..."

:smile03: Я ВЕРНУЛСЯ!!!

In reply to Darth Saruman

Registered: 10/25/2006

Posts: 583

#241 12/9/2006 5:12 PM UTC

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Darth Saruman;46661

they lack that barely perceptible charm of Heroes II !:(

What's gone is gone! 2 is much more atmospheric, in my opinion. And that lovely imbalance:rolleyes:

Also the stupid plot in the Campaigns, Alan is 100% right! Especially after 2, it just doesn't work.

The graphics aren't good. Under-animated and insufficiently realistic models, which have already lost the charm of what seemed like book illustrations from 2...

It was a mistake to introduce strange castles - demons (that's the same as making a separate castle for angels) and Conflux (an elemental castle - no offense to everyone here on the forum who is "for them" - some kind of nonsense, IMHO)

Also I don't like the music in 3 (only the elves and Barbarian have good ones). In all other parts it's better, in my opinion.

Regarding the heroes' faces - they did a very funny thing there: all goblins, ogres, minotaurs, and someone else (I don't remember who) have ONE face model, just painted differently. Also unpleasant:mad:

С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
- Чжуан-цзы
Сильванис

In reply to Silvanis

Registered: 2/15/2006

Posts: 1,676

#242 12/10/2006 8:52 AM UTC

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If I'm being honest, I'd say:

5th level magic spells: hypnosis and mirror?!

While CITY PORTAL and BERSERK are 4th level!

To be honest, I've only used those 5th level spells once... just to test them out.

But overall, HEROES 3 IS A COMPLETE MASTERPIECE OF WORLD-CLASS GAMEPLAY!

P.S. I've played many other games, and eventually forgotten about them... But I keep coming back to Heroes again and again...

Sincerely, VDV_forever

Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:

In reply to Geksorin

Registered: 11/26/2006

Posts: 82

#243 12/10/2006 9:01 AM UTC

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Yeah, the game is really cool! I used to complain that the graphics weren't good enough, but now that the fifth installment has been released, I realized that the graphics aren't that important in this game...

:smile03: Я ВЕРНУЛСЯ!!!

In reply to Pablo N Ochoa

Registered: 11/25/2006

Posts: 1,252

#244 12/10/2006 9:16 AM UTC

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I stopped liking Heroes 3 when they crammed in too many high-level neutral creatures: Azure, Crystal, and Rusty Dragons, all level 7 and higher; and then they added lairs so you could gather even more!:mad: I really didn't like that because it ruined the balance, and you didn't need to think anymore – you just had to collect monsters. I played the early version of In the Wake of Gods – it was even worse!:mad:

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