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For the motherland, for Stalin, for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation!
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Oh my god, I must be dreaming – the great Alex has risen from the dead! This justifies the existence of any idiotic thread.
Alex, I'm with you in spirit – the ashes of Klaas are beating in my heart. :smile13:
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Siverfale
Not much worse than selling oil, gas, timber, diamonds, etc. without any processing, practically without any benefit for the state, although the resources are the property of the entire nation, and also allowing radioactive waste to be buried on our land in order to earn at least some money. These are the benefits that one-party rule has brought us.
And how would you pull the country out of the mess of the 90s, you genius of politics and finance?) Do you have a plan?)
Siverfale
I read a historian whose judgments are trustworthy (because he describes events extremely impartially, provides links to publicly available sources, and these are reliable ones), and he writes that the fact that the Bolsheviks were brought in on the orders of the German secret services is beyond doubt.
Why didn't we get along with Germany, if they achieved what they hoped for... Something doesn't add up!..
Siverfale
Okay. 5 million were killed. 181 million are alive. That's 2.5%. But under Stalin, the number of people subjected to repression was:
5 million lived at the end of the tsarist rule - how many were subjected to repression then? And express it as a percentage of the repression against the population in 1917.
Siverfale
If I misunderstood something, then you definitely need to express your thoughts more clearly.
I gave you the population figures - give me the figures for repression and calculate...
Siverfale
But Lordesat, for example, believes that capitalism is better for the future.
And what are his reasons?.. I'll give you a clear example of a real theory about a communist society - the ISS. "Peace" was built by us under communism, but they, under capitalism, can't even do that...
Siverfale
That's right! We also need to take away the old ones. Otherwise, they are getting too brazen - they are telling the tsar-father how to rule the country. Let them go back to the stable, that's where they belong!
And do you want to live well, in a fairy tale, and at the same time only listen to yourself? My dear, that's fantasy!)
Amko
Freedom? In this country? Is it when the police beat journalists and you can only start a normal business if you have connections at the top? Freedom, democracy is not when you can call the great Putin a crook and a thief on the internet and throw feces at United Russia, it is something else.
When has a free press ever been of great benefit in a free country? They proved their inadequacy when "yellow journalism" appeared
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Slonysh
Oh God, I must be dreaming – the great Alex has risen from the dead! This justifies the existence of any idiotic topic.
Alex, I'm with you in spirit – the ashes of Klaas are beating in my heart. :smile13:
I just heard that another person who "doesn't want to stand in line for sausage like all normal people" has appeared here :D So I dropped by to say hello – otherwise, I'm just busy with role-playing – I also want to relax).
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How would you pull the country out of the mess of the 90s, you genius of politics and finance? Do you have a plan?
No, but you don't need to be a chicken to say that the egg has gone bad, and you don't need to be a brilliant politician to understand that the country is simply being brazenly robbed.
Why didn't we get along with Germany, if they achieved what they hoped for... Something doesn't add up!
If you had paid more attention in history class, you would have noticed an interesting fact: Germany also had a revolution, after which democrats came to power. And after them, even the fascists, which, although not a revolution, was also a very sharp change in political course.
5 million people lived at the end of the tsarist rule - how many were repressed then?
What? Am I right in understanding that you are saying that 5 million people lived at the end of the tsarist rule?
I gave you the population figures - give me the figures for repressions and calculate...
Going through all the tsars would take too long. Off the top of my head, I can only recall that the number of death sentences in political cases under each tsar was, in the worst case, several thousand, with the exception of Nicholas II, Peter I, and Ivan the Terrible. But even there, it won't amount to much, certainly not millions.
And what grounds does he have?... I'll give you a clear example of a real theory about a communist society - the ISS. "Peace" was what we built under communism, but these guys, under capitalism, can't even build one...
And Lordesat will tell you that under communism, few people could afford even a "Moskvich," but now many can afford a very decent foreign car.
And do you want to live well, in a fairy tale, and at the same time only listen to yourself?
I don't want to be cattle without the right to vote. Am I asking for too much?
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Siverfale
No, but you don't need to be a chicken to say that the egg has gone bad, and you don't need to be a brilliant politician to understand that the country is simply being brazenly plundered.
It was already looted in the 90s by everyone who could, and now it's being looted because the country is recovering and there's something new to loot. It's better to come up with a plan – you don't need to be smart to state a fact...
Siverfale
If you had paid more attention in history class, you would have noticed an interesting fact – Germany also had a revolution, after which democrats came to power. And after them, even the fascists, which, although not a revolution, was also a very sharp change in political course.
By the way, textbooks in our country are also interpreted differently every year. In my time, there was a "liberal" textbook, but it didn't have much of an effect.
Parties change, but plans, if they are long-term and for the good of the country, are unlikely to change. It is unlikely that another party would prefer to miss out on a compliant puppet.
Siverfale
What? Am I right in understanding that you're saying that at the end of the tsarist rule, 5 million people lived there?
Yes, then there were a century and a half of turmoil... Now you understand correctly...
Siverfale
Going through all the tsars is too long. Off the top of my head, I remember that the number of death sentences in political cases under each tsar was, at worst, several thousand, with the exception of Nicholas II, Peter I, and Ivan the Terrible. But even there, it won't add up to that many, definitely not millions.
These are the official, recognized ones! You don't need to say that there was no documentation on the "repressed" at that time, and if a peasant was killed as an example, they would just forget about it.
Furthermore, are the political figures who tried to change the country or pull it out of the mess through repression also bloody tyrants, without whom it would have been better? Where is the logic in blaming some and not thinking about others?
Siverfale
And Lordesat will tell you that under communism, few people could afford even a "Moskvich," but now many can afford a very decent foreign car.
Yes, now there is a very large gap between the rich and the poor, and those who cannot afford even a "Moskvich" can afford to rob and kill their neighbor... Now even prisoners live comfortably in their cells at the expense of the state, when they need to either be sent to a high-security prison or work in the forest...
What times, what morals... There is simply many times more hypocrisy now.
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In the 90s, it was already looted by everyone who could, and now it's being looted because the country is recovering and there's something new to loot. It's better to come up with a plan – you don't need to be smart to state a fact...
Plan:
1) Introduce a two-party system.
2) If the authorities continue to loot the country, organize large-scale rallies and strikes.
3) Allow the current ruling party to solve problems, constantly remembering point two and the second party, which is just waiting for the ruling clique to make a mistake.
4) Enjoy life.
By the way, the country is being looted not because it is recovering and there is something to loot, but simply because it is so rich that even after so many years of intense looting, it is still possible to profit from it.
Parties change, but plans, if they are long-term and for the benefit of the country, are unlikely to change.
Tell that to the communists, who abruptly stifled the nascent capitalism in Russia.
Yes, then there were a century and a half of turmoil... Now you understand correctly...
Unfortunately, in those centuries, no census was conducted, so it is impossible to accurately judge the population, and no source will provide reliable information.
These are the official, recognized figures! You don't need to say that there was no documentation on the "repressed" at that time, and look, a peasant was killed as an example and forgotten.
You underestimate the power of bureaucracy, which was already developed in Rus' under Ivan the Terrible. I am not taking into account the lawlessness of the nobles, who tormented their peasants, because it was indeed not taken into account by anyone.
Furthermore, political figures who tried to change the country or pull it out of the hole through repression were also bloody tyrants, and would it have been better without them?
An interesting way to pull out of the hole is to ruin and condemn agriculture to starvation and carry out repressions against the supreme command of the army. If we are talking about Stalin, of course.
Yes, now there is a very large gap between poverty and wealth, and those who cannot afford even a "Moskvich" can afford to rob and kill their neighbor...
This is already a question of their moral character.
Now even prisoners live in luxury in their cells at the expense of the state, when they need to either be sent to a high-security prison or work in the forest...
How stupid I am, I should have become a prisoner and live in luxury, but instead I am getting an education.

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And even better – go to sleep, which I will do with pleasure.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Siverfale
Plan:
1) Introduce a two-party system.
2) If the authorities continue to plunder the country, organize mass rallies and strikes.
3) Allow the currently ruling party to solve problems, constantly remembering point two and the second party, which is just waiting for the ruling clique to make a mistake.
4) Enjoy life.
By the way, the country is being plundered not because it is recovering and there is something to plunder, but simply because it is so rich that even after so many years of intense plundering, it is still possible to profit from it.
1) I agree... although you will be contradicted here because of freedom of speech.
2) What will this give in a market economy other than a fall in assets?... All this will not bring real profit.
3) Unfortunately, mistakes are inevitable. Theft can be suppressed, but mistakes cannot - this is part of life.
4) If you want to enjoy life, I advise you to go to Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, or Canada. In a country that is the center of political discussions with military potential, things will never be smooth!.. If you want to live, you need to be resourceful!..
Siverfale
Tell that to the communists, who abruptly stifled the nascent capitalism in Russia.
Is that NEP capitalism?... We were lucky that we didn't become capitalists) And now we are unlucky that we are stepping on the same rake on the path to capitalism.
Siverfale
Unfortunately, no census was conducted in those centuries, so it is impossible to accurately judge the population, and no source will provide reliable information.
I can reliably tell you that people were not worried about animals that were becoming extinct due to the human population... Now there are too many people on this planet!
Siverfale
You underestimate the power of bureaucracy, and it was already developed in Rus' under Ivan the Terrible. I am not taking into account the lawlessness of the nobles, who tormented their peasants, because it was indeed not taken into account by anyone.
That's when we learned about the first bloody deeds, and how many died at that rate before -

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is a mystery? It is clear that even before Ivan IV, governments were not hippies either!..
Siverfale
An interesting way to get out of a mess - ruining and condemning agriculture to famine and repression against the supreme command of the army. If we are talking about Stalin, of course.
They ruined it so badly that only the skeleton of Russia remained. Dear Siver, all this happened before, you don't have to think that humanity only learned how to kill so sophisticatedly now - but what was sophisticatedly documented, that's true... That's what liberals are mixing with shit in history now.
Siverfale
This is already a question of their moral character.
Didn't they try to "program" moral character in the USSR? They did... And now they don't. Freedom is a double-edged sword in the most diverse hands.
Siverfale
How stupid I am, I should become a prisoner and just sit around, and instead I am getting an education.
LOL...
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Who I am is irrelevant, but I'll introduce myself to you. I'm Alexey, nice to meet you, comrade... or should I say, "redneck"?

“Redneck” is a description that fits your writing, “comrade.” You are outdated, both morally and perhaps physically. Totalitarian donkeys and others like them need to be eradicated at the root. Fools and the impoverished are currently voting for the Communist Party. The former haven't read history, and the latter hope that when Zyuganov comes to power, everyone will live equally, as poorly as they do. I think you belong to one of these categories.
Didn't they try to "program" the moral image in the USSR? They certainly did... And now they don't. Freedom is a double-edged sword in various hands.

Freedom within the bounds of the law, I'll add. And you won't be able to bring back the image of the "Soviet person."
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день



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Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Lord Mortulus
Your writing is just vulgar, "comrade." You are outdated, both morally and perhaps physically. Totalitarian simpletons and others like them need to be eradicated at the root. Now, fools and the impoverished are voting for the Communist Party. The former haven't read history, and the latter hope that when Zyuganov comes to power, everyone will live equally poorly, just like they do. I think you belong to one of these categories.
It seems you haven't matured morally, despite your age. You like to destroy, you like to shout loudly?) And who here is "totalitarian," according to your own statements?)
And you are rich and smart, so you think you can do anything?) Here they are, comrades, the liberals!) Typical thugs, also known as "Russian oligarchs," also known as "corrupt officials":D
Lord Mortulus
Freedom within the law, I'll add. But you won't be able to bring back your "Soviet man" image.
Only the punishment is disproportionate to the crime, and in the case of corruption, many don't respect the law; I can't even find exceptions for how they quietly steal.
There's the carrot and the stick – if you're not afraid to use them, anything is possible. Of course, you won't like that, but who will say anything about it in future generations?
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Typical thug behavior, also known as "Russian oligarchs," or "corrupt officials."

Are you an idiot? If I were an oligarch, I wouldn't even waste my time on you. You don't even know what to criticize anymore and just call everything "thug behavior." You're a typical sore loser.
And frankly, I don't have much to talk about with people like you. I have good reasons not to like the Soviet regime and its successors.
And if you lived under the USSR and thrived, then you're just an old thug, a corrupt member of the CPSU.
and with corruption, many people don't respect the law

Who said that we have corruption at the official level?
There's a carrot and a stick – if you're not afraid to use them, anything is possible

Unfortunately, the stick was only used under the Soviet regime; now, there are only carrots, in my opinion. And I just feel sorry for you if you don't want to understand that.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день



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Yeah, this drug addict logs into the forum once every six months to spout another load of nonsense on a political topic, which he thinks he understands very well. He yells something about the USSR, parties, that everyone is doing everything wrong, that they ruined the country, etc. And he's only 23 years old. 23 years old, and he's trying to preach about the Soviet Union. Heavy drugs. You have to be "I don't know who" to believe that communism is possible in principle, let alone in Russia and the former Soviet countries; it's like anarchy, only not anarchy but communism. It's pointless to argue with him; he'll just keep posting vague, unarguable nonsense (EXCEPT FOR HIS VERY IMPORTANT AND CORRECT OPINION, OF COURSE!!). It's not constructive. He showed this in all its glory last time.
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