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You can only talk about an attempted frame-up when there is a clear accusatory line at the beginning/end/middle of which hangs a blatant "Execute the player." Was there anything like that regarding Neyra before yesterday? No. And there's no need to pin that on me after her. It's convenient, of course, to twist the facts to suit your needs, but let's look at the truth.
Seriously?
Now let's look at Neyra herself Clue number 1 - "The Code of the Perfect Warrior" Looking at the picture in the caption, I'm not an anime fan, I don't know the plot of this cartoon, but aren't these two ladies warriors?) They're definitely no worse than the guards from Ankh-Morpork))) Not to mention that Japan is the homeland of samurai, warriors who possess a code. Let's move on Clue number 2 - "a footprint with a strange cross" It's inquisitorial footwear. And inquisitors are often mentioned in the song from your profile. I don't know which of these is a plant and which is real, but both are quite plausible.
Ney, accusing based on clues doesn't seem to be your thing I've given you two clues. And there are no twisted words or anything like that in them. You haven't commented on this even once in the last two posts. Why? Because the clues are accurate, and you have nothing to counter with. Your version has already shown a couple of major cracks, and you're now clinging to any nonsense. Quote: Do you think it's impossible to distort "ankh" into "ank" with just one letter? That's very far-fetched. In general, of all the clues presented against me, only the Ankh-Morpork coat of arms can be considered normal. But the code definitely doesn't apply. And that's because I'm not a mafia member, but a civilian who's looking for clues. Sometimes, apparently, successfully. I'm now much more confident in calling for Neyra to be executed, because she's 100% mafia.
You also brought up the Inquisition on the soles of shoes, it seems to be bothering you, maybe it's too good of an interpretation. And what did you want me to say? Quote your own frame-up? Here it is. Twisting things? That's just yesterday, and it's far from everything, and it's missing many interesting things. Also, your strong methods of persuasion: "you're just talking nonsense," "you can't decipher clues," "I hope he doesn't get involved :o :o :o." And what next? Do you want me to ignore yesterday if you started framing me after your own failure?
And now, today, I see that the race to find a loop for Neyra is now giving the mafia a great argument for framing me. Exactly with the arguments you made - that she's definitely a civilian, and I'm just muddying the waters. That's why I started by checking those who are involved in this "attack," because for two nights in a row, Red has been killed, and the clues about him should relate to someone else, since neither I nor Neyra killed him. It's logical that I started with you. Because you're now getting nervous, feeling that there's a chance.
What? Should I just sit quietly and "not get nervous" when the main suspect is going out of his way to shift the blame onto me and tie me up with his own clues? God will judge?
Just don't deny the strong religious component of Warhammer
Warhammer, but not quite the same? Well, yes, you have Warhammer 40,000 Soulstorm.
This is a description of an entire race in the game. That's what I tried to convey with the nuances.
The sisters have no crosses. Neither the Inquisition nor anyone else in Warhammer uses cross symbolism. You could have looked that up beforehand. The only cross in the universe is the one in your picture, belonging to one of the countless (there are literally thousands) orders of Space Marines. You can make such a connection with anything and everything; I even use crosses to mark the numbers on my calendar. What's so "unusual" about the cross that you've been ignoring for the past two days in your wonderful interpretations? If this is a plant, it's a pretty weak one. And THIS is what you're comparing to an ankh? Is this your main clue?
At least explain it. Guards? Well, everyone probably knows that these guys are far from perfect warriors and don't follow any such code.
You probably haven't read it. The two main characters in the Guards! cycle are Vimes and Carrot. Carrot rises from the bottom to become a noble guard, realizing that he has fallen and becoming determined to restore the honor of the noble guard. The two-meter-tall giant Vimes studies the guards' code and strictly follows the letter of the law, arresting dragons, catching criminals in gangs, and polishing his armor to a shine.
Clan? Every member of the mafia belongs to some clan))) except for the newbies.
But not everyone has clues that perfectly fit them, and not everyone is framing themselves. But I agree, the Guards! version is more appealing to me.
You don't even bother to connect it to anything specific. Well done, why would you really need to? The more specific it is, the more references there will be to yourself. You've already failed with Warcraft.
Zybr, I wrote about Warcraft and vampires a few posts ago. Did you not read that, or is this just demagoguery? Baker.
First, yesterday I voted to execute Zubr because I found the evidence quite convincing. Then, I voted to execute Zubr because he started panicking, deflecting blame onto me, and acting suspiciously. Now, I want us all to vote to execute Zubr because he's leaking information to Loken. Basically, execute Zubr.
And Zubrik, your accusations against me were clearly worse, as were the accusations against Loken. Typical Barbarians.
The Town Sheriff should cut off his own testicles and fry them into an omelet, if he has any. Why on earth would he kill one of their most obvious Mafia members? Zubr should have been the target, Zubr! Or at least Arandor; I can confidently say that he's Mafia.
And the Mafia team is ridiculously lucky. And if we don't execute Zubr now, the Town will be completely screwed, and the Mafia will win. Also, I want to remind everyone that I have never leaked information about Town members, and that a couple of the clues I've correctly identified throughout the game have turned out to be true (except for Registrar, but he was still a negative influence). And I hope the Town won't listen to the "intuitive" Arandor and the "not-at-all-suspicious" Zubr, who has been suspicious since day one, when he was "unsure" about executing Tox.
Okay, okay)) I don't doubt you anymore: But you two contradict each other a bit; you should study the lines better.
"Hopefully, he won't get too involved."
This is the original quote from Nera about the guard, when I was trying to explain the essence to her.
The two-meter-tall bogatyr, Morkow, diligently studies the guard's code and strictly adheres to the letter of the law, arresting dragons, catching criminals in groups, and polishing his armor to a brilliant shine.
Morkow, yes, I agree. But you yourselves say (according to Nera's statement) that the GM wouldn't delve into such details. So, the chain is quite long: Ankh-Morpork - Discworld - Series of Books about the Watch - Book from the Series - Two of its characters.
The sisters have NO crosses. Neither the Inquisition nor anyone else in Warhammer uses cross symbolism.
The description clearly states "halo," "confessor," "Holy Inquisition." Doesn't that evoke any analogies with a cross?
Zybr, I wrote about Warcraft and vampires a few posts ago.
Maybe, maybe. But it's all just words until they are emphasized. But you're returning to Warcraft less and less explicitly now.
And Zubrik, your accusations against me were clearly worse, as were the accusations against Loken. They were barbarians.
Well, of course, what else could you have written? I already said about you - you saved yourself with a block, but otherwise, you revealed yourself quite well.
Besides, I want to remind you that I have never killed innocent people, and that a couple of the clues I solved in my lifetime turned out to be correct (except for the Registry, but that was still a negative).
Everything happens for the first time:) You shouldn't throw around such phrases. If you do manage to pull off a kill, you won't be able to use this "powerful argument" next time.
And I hope that the town won't listen to the "intuitive" Arandor and the "slightly suspicious" Zubr, who has been exposed since the first day when he was "unsure" about Tox's execution.
Yes, it's better to have you and Morning, of course)) So that the game doesn't drag on for a few more nights, and the mafia can calmly finish off the remaining townspeople.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Okay, okay))\nI don't doubt you anymore.\nBut you two contradict each other a bit; you should learn the lines.
Lol, what? Am I the Mafia, and my own comrades are trying to expose me? Zubr, what are you on? If you're going to come up with excuses and diversions, at least do it more convincingly. Or do you think that me and Loken are your unknown accomplices, and we're trying to expose you?
Ankh-Morpork - Discworld - Series of Books about the Watch - Book from the Series - Two of its characters.
Don't make up stories. I didn't say anything about "two of its characters." So, if you remove the characters, the chain becomes normal and quite logical. You can even remove the book and just leave the series about the city watch – the chain will still be logical and normal.
Everything happens for the first time. You shouldn't use such phrases. If you manage to expose someone, you won't be able to use this "powerful argument" next time.
It's not a big loss. Besides, I'm sure you're not playing as a town member.
It's better to have you and Morning, of course)) So that the game doesn't drag on for a few more nights, and the Mafia can calmly finish off the remaining town members.
Yes, it's better to have us and Loken. Me, because I never expose innocent players, and the executions I propose are always successful. Loken, because when he plays as a town member, he does almost everything right. And I trust him more than I trust you and Arandor. And I advise you, gentlemen, to listen to me and Morny. You can read Zubr's posts from the beginning, and then it will become clear to you that he is definitely not a town member.
Looking at the picture in the caption. I'm not an anime fan, I don't know the plot of this cartoon, but why aren't these two ladies warriors? They're definitely not worse than the guards from Ankh-Morpork. Not to mention that Japan is the homeland of samurai, warriors who have a code of honor. Let's move on.
A couple of crazy girls who decided to make money to earn forgiveness. One makes guns out of underwear, the other makes swords out of stockings. What "ideal warriors." Especially since they do everything clumsily. You know, the watch would be more convincing.
Clue number 2 - "footprint with a strange cross" The shoes are inquisitorial. And inquisitors are often mentioned in the song from your profile. I don't know which of these is a red herring and which is real, but both are quite plausible.
Berber is worse than the previous one. The reference to Ankh/Ankh/Ankhkh is more convincing. Besides, the clue is a red herring; your comrades/you clearly knew what they were doing. Yesterday, I didn't have time to debunk these clues. But if you think they are convincing, I feel very sorry for you.
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Yes, it's better to have us and Loken. Me, because I never expose innocent players, and the executions I propose are always successful. Loken, because when he plays as a town member, he does almost everything right. And I trust him more than I trust you and Arandor. And I advise you, gentlemen, to listen to me and Morny. You can read Zubr's posts from the beginning, and then it will become clear to you that he is definitely not a town member.
At least remember his reluctance to execute the exposed Tox. By the way, this bluebird was covering up almost as unconvincingly as Zubrik.
Added 2 minutes ago You can, of course, not believe me; it's your choice. But you know, if we don't execute Zubr, we'll throw the game into the toilet and give the Mafia the victory. Besides, it's obvious that Arandor and Zubr are openly organizing the exposure of Morny/NNV.
Added 3 minutes ago And in general, stop trying to pin my rebel and his Inquisition on everything. It's just stupid.
To be honest, I'm not sure who we should vote for, but someone needs to be executed regardless. The evidence against both of them isn't perfect, so we'll have to rely on the other facts. Considering Tox's attempt to shift the blame onto her on the first day, as well as the fact that her night defense was used on a known mafia member, I'm more than confident that Neyra is either town or mafia. But even in the latter case, she needs to eliminate a mafia member, not a town member. Execute Zybr.
Okay :) There's no point in arguing with Neyra and Morning anymore. Besides, the workday has started. As for what to tell the others... Think whatever you want. If you execute me today, I hope you'll figure out my role before nightfall, and then you can hang Morning without hesitation, because my role is that of a town member. Although, even then, you'll still make things easier for the mafia, and later you'll understand why:) I'm not sure if I'm not being convincing enough, or if something else is the problem. Wolverine-style again))
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
or at least Arandor, I can confidently say that he's Mafia.
Intuition? If so, I'm very happy because it's failing you. Isn't that great? There won't be any more phrases like: "lol, my intuition" and so on. If it's not intuition, then you're Mafia. I don't see anything strange in shifting the blame to your own side. There are many roles for the Mafia, and you could easily be someone, maybe Redom.
The evidence against Zubr is a little more convincing, but still not great. I need to think. Let the others respond. Where's Lynx, who is definitely Mafia, and the other people?
Okay, if we eliminate the Buffalo and he isn't the Mafia, then Cubehead kills Morny (unless he's blocked). Then the Mafia kills someone. We're left with 3 vs. 3 + the Maniac. But we have the Vomiting Zombie, who can take away the Mafia's ability to vote (not counting Kenny). Well... maybe there's still a chance, but it's very small.
The Mafia still has a vote disruptor :) and also a killer who, after this day ends, is obligated to kill. In effect, this will result in -2 for the Mafia, all other things being equal.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
No, it's your behavior. Also, I assume that at the moment you are useless as a player, because you don't bring any benefit, you only spout useless nonsense. So even if you are not Mafia, it is better not to listen to you; you are probably just trying to spread misinformation. And yes, Arch, the fact that you would start to protect your own Night Detective (although, I don't believe in such nonsense) doesn't mean that I will allow myself to be put at risk. I would never agree to such a scenario and would start to expose my own people so that these Night Detectives wouldn't frame me. Besides, it is obvious to everyone that I can be a Town member or a Serial Killer, but definitely not Mafia. Another minus for you for all these attempts to trick me with "is it intuitive?" - bad, Arch.
Added 4 minutes later Yes, Zu, a Serial Killer is not obliged to kill if he doesn't want to.
Added 8 minutes later Damn, it just occurred to me that we lost the Doctor
The chain is quite long: Ankh-Morpork - Discworld - The series of books about the Watch - A book from the series - Two of its characters.
Lol. Ankh-Morpork, books about Discworld, the Watch. Zybr, you mostly lead, rather than play, but I won't even mention that a clue like "code of the perfect warrior - a call to morality" is something on the level of "green because Pandora's nickname is green." Or how was it in your game? The clue of the century.
The description clearly states "halo," "confessor," "Holy Inquisition." Doesn't this evoke any analogies with a cross?
I already explained it.
Maybe, maybe. But these are just words until emphasis is placed on them. But you're returning to Warcraft less and less often.
There's some kind of mumbling here. "The big shot will rise." What? What is he talking about?
Tox, by the way, also justified himself by saying that he "forgot about the block." I'm just saying.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
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