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Posts from Mafia: general discussions.Auto-translated
Because the more newcomers there are, the lower the overall activity will be, which is not good.
I understand your point of view, but newcomers are also a good thing.
DEAR SECTION MODERATORS, why don't you write a guide for the game? Or at least a few tips. So that newcomers have some basic knowledge and don't make mistakes. Okay, maybe noobs won't need it, but good advice would be useful even for some players who have already played the game. And you could also share your experience as a GM: mistakes, hints, passwords, and trainers... you get the idea.
Did you read that as "I won't post here anymore"? Or did you see a game application somewhere to say, "You said you wouldn't play, but here you are playing"? Everything else you expected is your own conjecture.
I'll keep quiet about constructiveness. If you think everything's fine, there's no point in arguing. By the way, how did you bring Hos into this, who doesn't even play — cool. I'm telling you about the low activity of a small part of the current players, and you bring up Hos. :/
I wrote to you about this, let him go and teach the six-level players how to play tournaments, or better yet, the three-level players. They haven't left the forum, so why not! Let's try again. It was written: I'm getting out of here, away from you noobs and fools, to play on other resources. Actions: continue expressing your oh-so-necessary opinion in the mafia thread. Did anyone ask for advice? Did anyone ask to be taught? It would be fine to say it in some neutral way, but no, you have to come and say everyone is stupid and doing it wrong. What a pity!
And why not mention Hossy? He's the only (off the top of my head) active player who didn't sign up because there was no break. Ah... I get it, you just didn't account for other factors why people might not sign up, well okay :3
I don't recall being harsh ever being considered something banal and routine. Relevant? Is being rude relevant nowadays? Only in your social circle, I guess.
I don't understand, are we having heartfelt conversations over tea, or are we on the internet where every word must be accounted for, basically? Yes, it's quite relevant for a person who considers criticism of their actions to be TROLLING — anything will seem like rudeness.
"Everyone" is bad and mean? "Prove it or you_know_who". And he wrote it for me as well. He wrote it publicly, so it was for me, for Omega, and for everyone else. Or do you only reply to posts that start with "WisTrit, ..."?
Have you caught the CJIO-3.0 virus? Don't you understand basic figures of speech either? You latch onto a single word ripped from the text and celebrate? Just like a fifth-grader from an MMORPG forum. Yes, I wrote it for you, that's what I'm saying, I wrote it for everyone and expressed my position in it.
"Prove the part about 'everyone is stupid and noobs' or you_know_who".
You're forcing me to go digging for quotes again.
But then again, overall everyone was so astonishingly incoherent that I don't even want to blame anyone specific. Overall, with the exception of three or four players, no one plays. They don't know how and don't try to learn. Mafia has turned into a branch of the chat room for most, and any mention that it's an intellectual game with specific techniques is perceived as an attempt to spoil the fun. Playing on HeroesWorld has become boring. Everyone probably remembers the saying that you can only learn something by playing against a stronger opponent? Well, on HeroesWorld right now, you can only forget everything you learned, so I'm going to play on other mafia resources.
PROOF PROVIDED!
By the way, I doubt you're only expressing opinions about the games you're currently playing. If you play tournaments for a certain part of Heroes for a few months, then stop playing, but you form an opinion on how to improve the running of those very tournaments, and you post your opinion, no one will say "who asked you?" just because you're not playing at the moment.
Of course I won't, do I look like a fool? Those who play tournaments will figure out how to play for themselves; the boss is always the GM/organizer/dungeon master/etc., not Slonysh or Wistrit. If the organizer wanted to do it their own way, then so be it, it's their right. GIVE OUT IMMUNITY TO SOMEONE OR SOMETHING LOL)))0
Saying a phrase meaning that a specific person's opinion means nothing, showing disrespect for that person's opinion = showing disrespect for the person.
And what's so special about the phrase? Look, someone herself says she doesn't care about the opinions of others (most of the forum members) and that's fine! WHO DID I WRITE THE POST-REPLY TO OMEGA FOR, DANG IT? DID I WRITE IT JUST TO WRITE IT AGAIN LATER?
Insults, trolling, flaming are "illegal" on this forum, you show disrespect simply by asking such a sharp question, meaning you are not interested in anyone else's opinion. Will you come to confess or will you pretend to be crazy to make it seem like an unconscious action?
Oh the horror, INSULTS AND TROLLING. Of course, flaming? And who started this whole mess anyway? We were playing fine until the same Zubr came along and until they and someone saw in each other a beacon of peace capable of saving the section from chaos and anarchy. Why should I be obliged to respect someone who doesn't respect me and a bunch of other people? I described it in my second post, basically 50% of your attacks can be countered with quotes from the second post.
Not for no reason. With cause. Having grounds. Try it, oh person who is too lazy to min-max newspapers in mafia because mafia isn't the end of the world. Even if in such an important life situation your laziness suddenly evaporates, you won't find something that simply isn't there. And when you find something to nitpick, think about how many times more similar nitpickable moments could be found by analogy in your own posts. But nitpicks will remain nitpicks, heh. Otherwise, this is called moderator activity, comrade moderator. By the way, moderator actions are also not supposed to be discussed. Just don't start another argument about how everything was "just because" and "without grounds" — I'm tired of discussing it. I already understand your opinion doesn't match mine.
Yes, awarding points under the TROLLING clause, for a post that simply described the situation from everyone's perspective except someone's. That's not moderator action, that's vandalism, and for that, you should be stripped of your moderator status (at the very least). And that's disrespect, is it justified? With grounds? Oh yeah! Well said! Now here's some reciprocity, respected moderator. Everything was just because, without grounds, I'm tired of it too, since you provide no arguments.
Ah, okay, right. I'm going to slam the door, since you think we're doing this anyway? (This means that for me personally, this conversation ends here, just so you know.) *Slam the door and shout "Wissy is an idiot."*
Go on, leave, prescribe yourself some ointment.
Tomorrow holds no promises Except the ones we've made
Keep up the good work, and you'll see that I'll start awarding points for each post based on the level of flaming. I would delete everything, but that won't help here :(Xostor
DEAR SECTION MODERATORS, why don't you write a guide for the game? Or at least a few tips. So that newcomers have some basic knowledge, instead of just floundering around. Okay, noobs might not need it, but good advice would be useful even for some players who have already played a bit. And you could also share your experience as a GM: mistakes, hints, passwords, and trainers... you get the idea.
I don't think so; there are plenty of examples of Mafia games, and there's an article on Wikipedia, but creating a universal guide on how each typical role should behave in a Mafia game is unlikely to be possible. And the advice not to be stupid is just stating the obvious.
I don’t really want to discuss this here, but I also don’t want to leave my friends to take the heat for me, which doesn’t seem like the most elegant solution.
In short: moderators who don’t offend or upset anyone with their actions are possible in two cases. Either on utopian forums where there are simply no spammers, rude people, trolls, etc. – which is clearly not our case. Or if they try not to offend the aforementioned trolls, flamers, and the like with their actions – that is, they gently take care of the offenders.
The fact that some people got so upset in this conflict shows me that I did everything right.
I think it’s pointless to dwell on this issue any further.
Pshhh. Earth to Slonyshu-30, Earth to Slonyshu-30. You have entered a zone of intense, merciless trolling; initiate landing procedures immediately, pshhh. I repeat, initiate landing procedures at the nearest airport immediately. Pshhh.
To put it briefly: moderators who don't offend or upset anyone with their actions are possible in two cases. Either on utopianly perfect forums where there are simply no spammers, rude people, trolls, etc. - which is clearly not our case. Or if they try not to offend the aforementioned trolls, flamers, and the like with their actions - that is, they gently take care of the offenders. The fact that some people got so upset in this conflict shows me that I did everything right.
Is it normal to award points for trolling in posts where there is no trolling? Is this how a good moderator should act?
Arandor
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