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Posts from Mafia: general discussions.Auto-translated
If a person doesn't want to play well and doesn't want to learn to play well, I don't enjoy the game. Well, you know, it's a naive dream – every player writes insightful comments, there are calm discussions, long-term plans are devised, and clever strategies are implemented. But that doesn't happen, and it's not likely to happen. And therefore, in the absence of my own enjoyment, I am free to do whatever I want within the rules. I offer constructive criticism, and I also stir up negativity. Problems? Sue me.
Not everything is as bad as it seems to you; at least there are a few strong players who have enough time for a full-fledged game.
What will negativity give you? Do you think it will make your dream come true? More likely the opposite, and there are already certain prerequisites for that.
Что такое осень - это небо Плачущее небо под ногами
Well, we'll leave our speculations for later, what do you say, right? Okay, let's think about it.
But that's exactly how it looks, right?
Proof that your post is the same. It's obvious.
You, as a super analyst, should be able to easily draw parallels.
What is the breadth of thinking? To read a newspaper 20 times, Google all possible words, and compare the result with each profile?
"The breadth of thinking is accounting for all the NDs in newspapers, votes, individual messages, and comparing these facts for analysis."
This is an exaggerated point of view. If a person has a minimum of understanding, then even if they sit for 40 hours, they won't analyze anything.
Any forum user, after spending five hours reading a newspaper, will give you a clear picture of what is happening, I guarantee it.
The comparison with PvP is silly. Completely different mechanics. + In Mafia, you can't buy brains with donations.
No, it's a good comparison. You "buy" brains with the time spent grinding newspapers.
In the first seconds, they take the cannon, fly into the sky, and float there for half the match, filming the little people running around on the ground from the same cannon to maintain flight and maneuvers, or with a crossbow. This is the strategy. In general, only 2 weapons are used - the cannon and the crossbow. The rest of the weapons are taken only for fun.
It's so simple, so easy and commonplace, it's absolutely one-dimensional, unvaried, and stupid, isn't it? Especially jumping with a jump and killing with it, and staying in the air, and with a crossbow it's even easier. All weapons were used, just the jump was used more often (because of the weapon's skills).
They all know the respawn points and can kill a revived player in a millisecond through some special angle at the slightest sound. And in general, they constantly demonstrate knowledge of all the features and repeat them until victory.
Any newbie knows all the respawn points, any newbie can shoot through any angle, all paths are open, take the jump and go for it. But why doesn't anyone do that? Knowing all the features is a given, it's the very foundation that is needed to fully implement tactics and yourself in the game. It takes a lot of skill, strength, and INTELLECT to control enemies, movement, jumps, shooting, and health replenishment. Skilled players anticipate the movement of enemies, and don't just shoot from hiding places. Skilled players think through every step, and don't just jump around waypoints.
What about in Mafia? Read the newspaper, read the set, compare, Google, make an assumption, and say "let's hang that guy." Is that a greater intellect than in any other game? Yeah, right.
Don't talk about 31, okay? Otherwise, I'll bother Wissy again.
Go ahead, talk. BOTHER ME AGAIN.
Tomorrow holds no promises Except the ones we've made
It's not as bad as it seems to you, at least there are a few strong players who have enough time for a full-fledged game.
The problem is that there are only a few.
What will negativity give you? Do you think it will make your dream come true? Quite the opposite, and there are already certain prerequisites for this.
I'm just putting the players in their place on this board. Otherwise, every pawn is ready to shout that it's a queen. And I do it because I can.
But that's exactly how it looks, lol.
Your posts deny the need for brains in Mafia. THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS. Although I'm not surprised.
Any forum user, after spending five hours reading the newspaper, will give you a clear picture of what is happening, I guarantee it.
Prove it. Sit down and give it a try. At least for the last few games. You know that's true! Do something useful, Vissy!
No, it's a good comparison. You buy "brains" with the time you spend grinding newspapers.
Lol. It's hard to come up with something more stupid. Is your whole world centered around grinding newspapers? Difficult childhood? Were you not allowed to read Komsomolskaya Pravda?
It takes a lot of skill, strength, and INTELLECT to control enemies, movement, jumps, shooting, and health regeneration. Skilled players anticipate the movement of enemies, not just shoot from hiding. Skilled players think through every step, not just jump around waypoints.
Skilled players have GRINDED so much to play like that. They learned everything by playing hundreds and hundreds of times. Skilled players know the opponent's move not because they think, but because they themselves have gone through this path and played and played and PLAYED. A lot of INTELLECT, lol.
What about in Mafia? Read the newspaper, read the set, compare, Google, make an assumption, say "let's hang that guy." Is that more intelligence than in any other game? Yeah, right.
Oh, lol. This is coming from a SKILLED HALF-LIFE PLAYER, WHO IS A COMPLETE ZERO IN MAFIA. Something is wrong here. MORE BRAINS ARE NEEDED IN HALF-LIFE! WHY IS IT A PROBLEM TO WIN IN MAFIA?! It's just "Read the newspaper, read the set, compare, Google, make an assumption, say "let's hang that guy"." Very difficult. It's easier to write jokes with sarcasm everywhere and be totally useless. Oh, of course. I'M JUST TIRED AFTER A PAPAL RUN IN HALF-LIFE!
Further, this will be an empty argument. Bye-bye, Vissy.
P.S.:
Come on, talk, lol. BOTHER ME AGAIN.
You have the worst evidence. YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BRAINS, lol
So, it’s not a mafia after all, just a fun way to unwind and let off some steam.
Ты страшился тысячи вещей... Но все это были лишь маски, лишь видимости. На самом деле страшило тебя только одно решиться сделать шаг в неизвестное, маленький шаг через все существующие предосторожности. И кто хоть один раз оказывал великое доверие, полагался на судьбу, тот обретал свободу.
Мы не свободные, вольно танцующие автобусы. Мы – привязанные троллейбусы и трамваи
I suggest asking Jack and other knowledgeable players to create a huge set for Dota, include all-random mode, and play 10 vs. 10. Hmm... I'm serious.
Thor, believe it or not, I've already had similar thoughts. The only downside I found is that many people who don't know what it is might not want to play (and I see here that many, not knowing the theme of the set, refuse to play - but what difference does it make what the theme is if everything is explained in the roles).
Prince, absolutely. I host Mafia after Tox, and then, when there's an opening, we can easily set up a Dota game. Communication is better on Skype.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
There's too much unnecessary stuff there... it's all over the top.
I'm a pro at Dota, I play it every day) and creating a game on the forum, similar to Mafia, but with a Dota theme, seems like a good idea to me)
Iccup?
I'm afraid that a Dota-themed Mafia game will be a disaster. Although, if you completely remove the description of the classic plot and make the game in a humorous style, and incorporate some hero abilities into the Night Watch, it might actually work.
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
By the way, I have a LoL-based setting ready for a while now, and I was helped by Loken and Gil x) It's without any gore and follows the Mafia canon with 2 Mafia factions.
I was planning to make all the abilities like in Necropolis. I have a lot of ideas. :) My path has been challenging: local network, Garena with 130 rooms, Garena HL rooms, IceCap, conquering 3 seasons up to 10k PTS, returning to Garena due to lags and the pointless grind of abusing PTS every season, currently playing in closed games with a specific group of people, doing quests, and soon I'll join the SPL league, etc.
I was planning to make all the abilities like in Necropolis. I have a lot of ideas!
Stun = block, hex = block, weapon - it depends on the specific characters involved. Check - Ward, for example, stealing ND = Rubik :) Defense... who usually acts as a support? Well, Omni's ultimate can be adapted for defense, and so on. Just don't overdo it!
Отдай свои прошлые сны, В сомненьях себя обрети, В бешеном танце душа кружится! Не думай, что будет потом, Здесь и сейчас мы живем, Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!
I started writing a long post, but after reading Hossi's arguments, I deleted it. Why bother repeating almost everything that was said before, but in different words? I'll answer a couple of points; the rest are not that relevant anymore. For the same reason that you're practically a complete noob in Generals and CS (we played those once). I didn't even try to make the clues difficult.
By the way, regarding "totally useless," remember Mafia game number 32? And 35? x)
Tomorrow holds no promises Except the ones we've made
For the same reason that you're practically a complete newbie in Generals and CS (we played those once).
Don't exaggerate, a year ago I played Generals at the same level as Revann. And yes, I admit I'm not great at CS. But the point is, I was discussing Mafia with you, and you're not showing any results, yet you're trying to tell me about how the game works. That's funny, sad, and funny.
I wasn't even trying to make the clues difficult.
I explained the reason.
By the way, about "totally useless," remember Mafia game number 32? And 35? :)
A repetitive "nyan cat" and "let's take down Hossi" – that's not totally useless? Oh, you've opened my eyes to the world! YOU'RE THE BEST PLAYER EVER!
What are you talking about? Revan and I started playing over a year ago, and he would have crushed you back then. And what's all this talk about the mechanics of a text-based forum game? For some fans, it might be the ultimate thing, where all the wisdom, intelligence, and charisma converge. But for everyone else, it's just a game that you have to grind at like any other if you want to be good. Sad and funny.
I already explained the reason, lol.
Yes, it's better to MAKE it like Thorich or Zubr, where to guess, you need to... what? Probably... think really hard instead of entering all possible options into Google! That's it! Yes!
Is a looping Nyan Cat and "let's kill Hossi" really useless? Oh, you've opened my eyes to the world! YOU ARE THE BEST PLAYER EVER!
No, a looping (twice, lol! Looping!) Nyan Cat is, unlike your nonsense in the style of "we're making a non-standard alliance," fun and less stressful. But "YOU ARE NOOBS, STUPID NOOBS, NOOBS, NOOBS" and "SHERIFF, BAN THAT GUY, HE'S MAFIA, 100% SURE" – that's useless, lol. It's doubly useless because you still haven't gained any intelligence from sucking so much. Yes, I'm the best, thanks for reminding me again, lol.
Tomorrow holds no promises Except the ones we've made
Mestear
