What is your opinion about neutral creatures? — General

Pablo N Ochoa

19 years ago

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Dinosaurs in armor are awesome! Especially with a boulder! Gargantua, I remembered! With the King of the Elves' bow, they attack 3 times! That's some serious power!

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Zdob

19 years ago

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Efil4Zaggin;30492

I agree. Here are the downsides of having a hero who can fight:

Good set of artifacts, and the sea creatures are defeated quickly, like a herring in the sun!:cool:

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Darth Saruman;48757

I like zombies! (the best zombies in the HoMM series)!

and also the Black Champion!

Regarding zombies... their movement speed... You can only level up on them, but there are a lot of heroes!:cool:

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Alex Ghost

19 years ago

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The Gargantua from the first add-on – now that’s a monster that truly stands out, it looks amazing! I also really like the ice demons, mantises, sunflowers, trolls, and mummies.

Zdob

19 years ago

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Why even bring up this topic? The game is full of monsters for every taste and every level; you just need to find the right approach to dealing with them.

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Darth Saruman

19 years ago

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Alex Ghost;55161

The Gargantua from the first add-on – now that’s a monster! It looks amazing! I also really like the ice demons, praying mantises, sunflowers, trolls, and mummies. :)

I also liked the ice demons right away... and what a face and stats they have... :D And FROST!:cool:

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Zdob

19 years ago

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Darth Saruman;55420

I also liked the Ice creatures right away... and what about their appearance and stats...:D And FROST!:cool:

Ice creatures are definitely a good choice, and they deal a lot of damage!:cool:

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Magnus

19 years ago

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Sergh;30071

Maybe... a slime can even eat a black dragon or a hero with 100% immunity... that's where all the ugliness lies :(

Yes, but not a Necromancer with 5th level magic of death, or a Priest with a guardian angel. The Necromancer finishes off sea creatures with Death Hand, and the Priest casts Guardian on the angel and goes into battle.

Sergey;31319

The elementals in Heroes 5 look as if they are not elementals at all (especially fire - they are not natural, but the air elementals look more like some kind of mummy that is spinning). In the fourth Heroes, they definitely looked like natural elementals.

I agree, and the fire ones are like salamanders (about Heroes 5).

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Alex Ghost

19 years ago

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No, the Fire elementals are flamethrowers with hoses instead of arms.

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Zdob

19 years ago

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Magnus;55479

Yes, but not a Necromancer with 5 levels of Death Magic, or a Priest with a Guardian Angel. The Necromancer finishes off the sea creatures with Death Touch, and the Priest casts Guardian on the angel and sends it into battle.

I agree, and the fire creatures are like salamanders (in Heroes 5).

But if there are 20 sea creatures, and a non-critical hit can only kill 7, then what?
The monster just bites him - the non-critical hit is gone, the Guardian Angel raises the body and immediately falls due to being absorbed!

And the Guardian, even if it manages to activate, might not work at all, and there won

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AndersonAD

19 years ago

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I think many units have been listed here... and I agree with many of the comments... but my opinion about neutral creatures is:
"Cool guys who can attack and ruin all plans (if you don't keep an eye on their movements). On an adventure map, they are very beautiful creatures. But my gaze mostly focuses and lingers on a creature if it can't be used anywhere else (Evil Sorceresses, Gargantua, etc.) - these are real units... as they say, units with a capital "U"."

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Magnus

19 years ago

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Zdob;55485

But if there are 20 sea monsters, and Necropolis can only kill 7, then what happens:
The monster simply bites him – Necropolis is gone, the guardian angel raises the body, and it immediately falls after being absorbed!

And the guardian angel might not even have time to react, and even feathers for a pillow won't be left!:cool:

Well, the monsters definitely won't have time to reach the Necromancer, and he'll cast the spell again and reduce their population.

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Darth Saruman

19 years ago

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Magnus;55679

The monsters definitely won't make it to the Necromancer in time, and he'll cast another spell and reduce their numbers.

He'll also slow them down, remove their defense, and poison them, and if it's a Demonologist, he'll suffocate them with summons...:D

Zdob

19 years ago

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And if there were initially around 500 of them, then what? :) I don't play without a hard drive, and that's why I forgot what 20 is! That's the first thing!
Secondly: I meant 20 nearby, but if it's remotely, then 2 monsters at 30 each! Cast on both of them?! And if it's just a non-critical enemy, say level 20, then what?! Will they pretend to be dead?! :)
And do they also have good morale?! :)

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Magnus

19 years ago

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Zdob;56006

But if there were initially about 500 of them, then what? :) Secondly: I meant 20 nearby, :)

How much time would it take for the number of monsters to increase to 500, and the Necropolis army should be of the same size. And how could you allow 20 creatures to get close to the hero?

Zdob;56006

Well, if it's done remotely, then 2 monsters, each with 30 units! Cast on both of them?! But if it's just a regular Necromancer, say, level 20, then what!? Will they pretend to be dead?! :) :)

First, one squad at a time, -13 units, and cast twice - almost one squad is gone. And then, improvisation.

Zdob;56006

And do they have good morale?! :)

Well, it's a long way to go. 3-4 moves.

Zdob

19 years ago

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Situations vary, and their outcomes differ accordingly! As for me, do I even have doubts that Necropolis with level 20 and 7 creatures will be able to win???!!
And what do you say about battles between wizards and dragons??? Hmm... Wizards are too strong, that's why it's not interesting to play as them! :)

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