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I find that hard to believe.
It is entirely your right.
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I just described a reason to "think about it." Unreal is the most popular engine for online games today. Korean games like Lineage are made on older versions of Unreal.
Do you understand that a game engine is about graphics and physics, not gameplay?
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5p74, no, no... Maybe there's a misunderstanding between us, and personally, I'm just sleep-deprived. :)
Not just about Disciples 3, but about the series as a whole.

Then it becomes even more absurd. Okay, Disciples 3, with the added running around in combat, can somehow be compared to Heroes 5 (and why only 5???), but how are the 1st and 2nd parts of Disciples similar to Heroes 5????????
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but how are the first and second parts of Disciples similar to the fifth installment of Heroes?
They both feature turn-based gameplay and resource management!
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Do you understand that the game engine is about graphics and physics, not gameplay?
Considering that "Heroes 5 is similar to Dis and soulless, all for the sake of money, they did a bad job," I doubt it.
The point is that I believe that after buying Heroes and ruining 3DO, Nival will just make money, and the series will die as such.
The series won't suffer any damage if a couple of individuals turn their noses up at it after the release of a new installment.
I never claimed that the Might and Magic V engine was bought from Dis 1, 2, 3. Read carefully.
And I never said anything about buying the Dis engine; that would sound very stupid. Why then mention Heroes 5 on the same level as "soulless games on other people's engines"? You need to somehow separate your thoughts so that it's clear.
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Players take turns and gather resources there!

But why specifically Heroes 5? (by the way, Age of Wonders also has turn-based gameplay and resource gathering). Based on these criteria, one could argue that all games of the same genre are uninspiring because they have something in common (like action, where everyone uses weapons and shoots!). Simply put, each game genre has its own progenitor, and its roots grow from there!
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But why specifically Heroes 5? (by the way, Age of Wonders also has turn-based gameplay and resources). Based on these criteria, one could argue that all games of the same genre are not inspiring because they have something in common (the same action, everywhere there are weapons and shooting!). It's just that each game of a genre has its own ancestor, and its roots grow from it!
I don't know why she thinks that way.

Moderated: INSULT in the message

Maybe because she's not very smart and is an ardent fan?
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Maybe because she's not very bright and is an ardent fan?
Why are you insulting the person? When did you become such a professional?:)
She writes quite clearly about making money off the brand. There are many examples.
I didn't understand the part about "Disciples." "Disciples" and "Heroes" were series that were contrasted with each other. I haven't played the third "Disciples," so I don't know what similarities there are with the fifth "Heroes," but in the sixth "Heroes," there is definitely a kind of "hybrid" of the "Disciples" system with resource mining, as Kosha mentioned above.


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Why are you insulting the person? Have you become a professional so long ago?
Well, it's justified. Because the girl is writing utter nonsense.
She writes quite clearly about churning out money from the brand. There are many examples.
And she thinks that all games are churned out, and that Disciples and Heroes are clones of each other. In general, she's talking absolute nonsense. In our time, I can immediately give an example of a series where both parts of the game are good, and at the same time, they are very different (the second one is much better). As you can already guess, I'm talking about Dragon Age.
I haven't played the third Disciples, so I don't know what similarities there are with the 5th one.
Monsters can move. That's all the similarities.
but in the 6th one, there is definitely some kind of "hybrid" of the Disciples system with capturing mines, as Kosh wrote above.
Well, the "control points" system is not new and has existed in other genres for quite some time, besides TBS. Yes, among the latter, only "Followers" possessed it, but what we got is closer to the system in some other games.
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But why specifically Heroes 5?
Probably because the forum is primarily dedicated to the "Heroes" series. It had to be mentioned somewhere, right?
Yeah, another pointless argument.
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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Regarding the plot (yes, there is such a thing in these games), for example, Disciples 3 is completely different from Heroes 5, and I find it a bit amusing to see how many people say otherwise. The only thing that is even remotely similar is the romantic storyline of the main heroine with a demon who is not quite a demon. And that's it. And even this storyline is presented in a completely different way. And, in my opinion, the campaign in Disciples 3, although it doesn't quite reach the level of the previous installment in some places, is much more interesting than the campaign in Heroes 5, not to mention the many differences.

And comparing Inoel to Isabel in any way is simply blasphemous.
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Whether we like it or not, the two turn-based strategy games will inevitably have similarities – it’s simply a genre convention. For me, for example, all shooters seem to be the same, probably because I’ve never played them.
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Not needed! (IMHO) Why include old heroes here? It's a different world! In the previous installments (except for the 5th), it was the old world of Might and Magic, but here it's Ashan! There's no connection between them, so the developers should first find a way to connect them and then introduce the old heroes! P.S. IMHO!
These aren't the old heroes, but heroes that resemble the old ones, in terms of names, appearance, and character.

Or there's a connection between the parallel worlds. Or - let's not disturb the graves of the heroes. :)

P.S. I'm concerned about the stated system requirements. We tried it on a computer with that configuration, and it stutters slightly. I don't know how it will perform in online play.
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I liked the new video less than the previous one. By the way, it clearly uses excerpts from in-game videos, including from the first mission of the prologue :rolleyes:.

I was very pleased with the conversation between one of the heroes and the faceless one. If they really participate in the plot, then in the editor, you will be able to play as them :).
Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"
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