Heroes 6 - Discussion — General

Zybr

9/20/2011 12:59 PM UTC

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What a mishmash! :D

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Orgazma

9/20/2011 1:06 PM UTC

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But Sandro from the second game is missing (((

Единственным извращением является отсутствие секса, а остальное - вопрос выбора и пристрастий. (З.Фрейд)

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5p74

9/20/2011 1:33 PM UTC

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Ganseng

I've only seen negative morale so far.

And who has it?

Adelaide is my favorite female character in the third game. Indeed, she looked more attractive there, but she captivated with her beauty. This one is simpler, but there's something about her)))

Jeddit is not bad, although in the third game he looked more powerful!

Ple-Sen

9/20/2011 1:51 PM UTC

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Jeddite turned out very strange, completely different from his previous self. The old one resembled more of a blind prophet, but it's definitely not what we got.

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Победитель

9/20/2011 2:40 PM UTC

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5p74

Has anyone in the beta ever experienced negative morale or luck during a battle?

In version 1.3, it happens frequently. When morale triggers, the unit receives half the movement points and attacks with half the strength.

And, has anyone seen negative morale? It happened once, just like in "Heroes of Might and Magic V" - it forces a "wait" turn.

Карты для Heroes of Might and Magic V
Цикл "Закадычные враги": "Особенное гостеприимство, "Супероружие", "Меж молотом и наковальней"
"Падение Шантири"

Кампания для "Кодекса Войны"
"Выбор Сагиттеля"

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__VeT__

9/20/2011 2:59 PM UTC

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Man, why are they putting old heroes in the Asylum? Why are Lord Haart, Tazar, and Nimbus here? And Atlas just killed me:smile25: :smile52: :smile52: I don't understand these developers...

Ment

9/20/2011 4:08 PM UTC

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Okay. It's just that in the fifth part (and even in the third, although it's less pronounced there), there were heroes who stood out due to their specialization, so everyone knew them. There isn't anything like that in the sixth part. There's just one guy among the humans whose bolts don't hit their target. And something else along those lines. But, frankly, these aren't such significant bonuses that you'd remember the heroes' names because of them. In this case, the names of the old, familiar heroes, even if they're only loosely connected to the new world, are pleasing to the eye. Because there's nothing else.

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Саня Изи

9/20/2011 4:09 PM UTC

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I don't understand why people don't like Adelaide. She seems alright.

Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день

Zybr

9/20/2011 4:50 PM UTC

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Well, there's this one guy in the Human faction whose bolts don't hit.

That's actually a very significant bonus:)
I saw a heroine in the Water faction who gives +25 HP to cannons. That's also very powerful.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Ment

9/20/2011 5:14 PM UTC

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This is actually a very significant bonus.

It's a nice bonus, I'd say. Archers really don't offer that much, so there's no need to protect them. Praetorians and monks perform much better.

I saw a heroine among the Water faction who gives +25 HP to cannons. That's also very powerful.

No. If the enemy wants to kill the cannons (and they will, otherwise one of their strongest units will take three or four hits at a time – this is guaranteed destruction, even the AI understands this), then 25 HP won't make any difference. I tested it in a duel.

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5p74

9/20/2011 6:10 PM UTC

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Winner

Ah, a negative one? Morale was like that once. Just like in "Heroes of Might and Magic V" - a forced "wait".

So, the entire turn wasn't lost, as in the 3rd part?

Zybr

9/20/2011 6:11 PM UTC

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It's decent, I'd say. Archers aren't that effective, so there's not much point in hiding them. Praetorians and monks perform much better.

It depends on how many you gather. Besides, they continue to hit enemies in groups if they're not careful. And it's difficult to get close to the block – the same spearmen fiercely defend it.

If the enemy wants to kill the centaurs (and they will, otherwise one of their strongest units will take three or four hits at a time – this is guaranteed destruction, even the AI understands this), then 25 HP won't play any role. I checked it in a duel.

1) To take down, say, 4 centaurs, you need to deal 100 more damage with magic.
2) Against neutrals, 25 HP is quite significant. + it increases the effectiveness of regeneration to some extent.

Not everything is decided in Fortress.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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5p74

9/20/2011 6:14 PM UTC

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Zybr

I saw a heroine among the Water faction who gives +25 HP to Kennys. That's also very powerful.

I actually played as her when I saw her bonus, and my eyes nearly popped out of my head :eek:

Ment

9/20/2011 6:16 PM UTC

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1) To destroy, say, 4 cannons, you need to deal 100 more damage with magic.
2) Against neutrals, 25 HP is quite significant. + it somewhat increases the effectiveness of regeneration.

1) In the current mechanics, dealing damage with magic is not profitable, except perhaps for finishing off almost dead units.
2) Against neutrals, it doesn't matter how much health they have: the medusa's regeneration will restore it all.

Not everything is decided by Fireball.

Fireball?
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Regarding crossbowmen: I remember the mages from the fifth game, the situation was a little better there, because they at least had magic in case they needed to be locked down. + the alt-upgrade has some kind of more cunning shot; they hit allies much less often, so they can be safely locked down.

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Zybr

9/20/2011 7:26 PM UTC

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2) Against neutral creatures, the amount of health they have is completely irrelevant: the regeneration of the Medusa will restore it all.

Not at all. It depends entirely on the enemy.

FB?

Final Battle.

There wasn't much to lock down there – Rakshasas and Golems. Maybe also Taburetkas, if they weren't alt-upgraded.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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