Posts from MIRROR FOR THE HERO

I support Los. Without new Dragon Fly Hives/canned resources, the template is absolutely uninteresting. With cobalt roads, we’re waiting for reports like “20 Angels and 60 Wyverns on day 122 take a max Utopia and add fifty grand to the already existing 50,000 in the treasury from the first week.” A real clown show with deadly strike stacks.

Samurai, to maintain interest, it would be good to be on the list of participants. :) In general, you make a good point, but: For some participants in the tournament, the mirror match itself is like a dark forest, the experience tax is an impassable jungle, and it's hard to even imagine what the new hives will be like. Similar to your "20 angels and 60 vivs on 122 take the maximum and add half a million to the already existing 50,000 in the treasury from the first week," I can imagine the opposite reports, like "lost on 121 in this damn new hive. I won't play this crap anymore"... Personally, I don't care, it can be played either way, but it would be better to listen to the opinions of most participants on this matter. Or, if the opinions are roughly equally divided, I will create 2 branches of the tournament.

Javdet, the point is that this template was originally designed for new scenarios, and it's clear that most newcomers won't be able to handle them, as even experienced players struggled with them. On the other hand, for example, anyone can defeat a scenario with 30 griffons on level 121, having 3-4 towns on the first level and a lot of money, but taking on a new level 3 scenario is very difficult and requires strategic thinking. This is where the interest of the mirror lies for me – for example, on levels 121-123, you need to place 9 Necro Knights + Lords + fodder. And do it better than your opponent, while also understanding what he will do in this DIFFICULT situation. Otherwise, it will just turn into a mindless run – simply collecting loot, of which there is a lot. I'm sure that, by the way, newcomers will perceive the mirror negatively in any case; in the first case, a very simple template will result (in terms of neutral creatures), and in the second case, it will be a series of defeats.

Лось. I'll repeat, I agree with both your posts and Samurai's, but.. creating this topic I primarily wanted people to discover something new and interesting. After all, not many understood that the mirror is a breakthrough in H3. Of course, it's easier to make a little tournament where 5-6 Baev's players will play for, like, a cup. But you'll agree, it would be very nice to attract new people and also save at least one of the already half-hundred stuck in the monotonous and stupid Jebus Cross))

In the rules, I included tax and experience precisely because on this template a new person can get acquainted with them without much pain. But new cons will become an insurmountable obstacle for him.

I think that introducing something new should be done gradually, not jumping in headfirst. Otherwise, after the tournament, the same ones will remain in the arena. ;)

P.S. What doesn't suit you about 2 threads? one with new cons, the other with old ones.. and in the semi-final/final we'll think of something.

Yeah, everything suits me; just give me THERM in the first round:)
I'm actually more willing to play without experience and without a handicap than against experienced players, for example. Yes, on that Bay map, people more or less easily accepted both the mirror map and the new units.

Similar to your "20 angels and 60 vivs on level 122 take the maximum utopia and add another 50,000 to the 50,000 already in the treasury from the first week," I imagine the opposite reports, like "lost on level 121 in this damn new hive. I won't play this garbage anymore"...

+1! People don't understand that it was precisely the new banks that prevented the idea of mirrored templates from developing properly, pushing away a large part of the players. Wicc just wanted to push the new banks more than the new template.

And the problem of having too much money can be solved in other ways; the template can be adjusted in the end.

The issue of having too much money can be solved in other ways; you can adjust the template in the end.

You got there first! I had the same thought, but what's wrong with it now? In terms of financial capabilities, the template is the closest to the "much-loved" Jebus by many.

For those who are not aware: with this amount of resources, the most reliable development strategy is to grab an Inferno secondary town (if it's available) and start producing demons. If the opponent doesn't do the same, it gives a significant advantage. I played two mirror matches with old accounts – both times I got an Inferno secondary town, and both times I had a noticeable advantage. P.S. I'm not interested in the tournament, but since my games were used as an example, I think I have the right to express my opinion and share my experience.

What are these new banks? I don't quite understand. I haven't encountered them before.

Description of the "new creature banks" script: The script modifies the bonus creatures and guards in griffin conservatories and hives. In conservatories 1-4, there are 7 random bonus creatures of level 7, and the guard consists of upgraded creatures of the corresponding race, levels 2-6, with one stack of creatures for each level. In hives, there are 2-8 random bonus creatures of level 6, and the guard consists of upgraded creatures of the corresponding race, levels 1-5, with one stack of creatures for each level. The number of creatures in the minimum stack: level 1 - 30, level 2 - 16, level 3 - 10, level 4 - 6, level 5 - 4, level 6 - 3 creatures. For larger banks, the number of creatures in each stack is multiplied by the following coefficients: 2, 3, 5. All guard creatures with a speed greater than 9 are replaced with non-upgraded versions. When playing with different races, if the terrain type under the conservatory or hive on the surface and in the basement differs, the terrain under them will be changed to desert. The arrangement of the guard stacks is random. The order of the guard creature names in the tooltip: 4 - 1 - - 5 3 - 2 When visiting these objects, you can change the bonus creatures for a certain fee. The cost of changing the first creature of level 7 or a pair of creatures of level 6 is 1000. The cost increase for each subsequent replacement of a creature of the same type increases by 50: 1000, 1050, 1150, 1300, 1500, etc. When playing with different races, the bonus creatures in the new banks (but not the guards!) are changed in the basement to creatures of the opposite race. In the skeleton converter, horses, unicorns, dragons, and hydras are converted into skeletons, not into necoconstructs and bone dragons.

I will be back from vacation on August 21st and ready to play. 98677240

I would play, but without new maps and fast-paced gameplay, it's not interesting.

I’ll still play; I want to try out the mirror match. 570865745

I would play, but it's not interesting without new maps and on fast maps.

You probably didn't bother to read the whole thread - there will be 2 tournament branches, one with new maps, and the other with old ones. In the final, priority will be given to what is written in the regulations.

You probably didn't bother to read the whole thread – there will be 2 tournament brackets, one with new constraints, and another with old ones. In the final, priority will be given to what is written in the regulations.

Put me in the correct bracket (the one with the new constraints). I don't quite understand why we're playing, because the final with the old constraints is a farce...