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#605
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Sloony has defense. The golem has 75% defense. Even an assassin can’t break through it. As for the status, I think it changes for the checkers. For this ND, it’s as written on the main page. But you can also ask Vis. And also ask if they find out what status the assassin receives or not.

A big request to the THIEF. Please go to Rimp tonight. You probably wanted to hide, but you need to go. You can steal a voice, maybe that would be better. If you go, we’ll execute him tomorrow. I hope you can build logical chains.

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#606
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Well, the Sorceress is coming for you. It's better to try and save an innocent player than to eliminate a supposed Mafia member. If you eliminate one, another will take their place.

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We. Are. Losing. A. Day. How many more times do I have to write this, and in what font? We CANNOT waste a day. So, how about we execute the Governor and the Advisor one by one each day, huh? The Mafia will kill each other off, but what about us? We're all immortal. So, sorry, but the idea of a guaranteed peace check is complete nonsense to me.
What's better: a lost day with a check, or a lost day that relies on one stupid probability theory?
Slonish, guaranteed peace? Prove it! But you can't prove it. Or did you guys share roles with each other in ICQ? If so, then modkill to you, the rest is intuition and probability, which shouldn't be paid attention to until there's one hundred percent certainty.
Where did this sudden confidence come from that the Knight won't go for the checked player? The Knight is behaving very cheerfully, isn't he? And the Mafia won't kill Slonish yet because her role, fortunately, isn't obvious, and wasting their only night kill on her based on a guess would be stupid for them. You need to choose which role to play, and in both options, there's a good chance of failure. That's why I'm against the execution – I don't want to make the role obvious.
Gil, if Slonish isn't Mafia, the Mafia definitely knows her role, and believe me, they will eliminate her because they don't need an Advisor.
Hey, go ahead, name the Mafia composition intuitively. Just don't say that your intuition suddenly isn't working this time. Name them.
That was a long time ago, like ten games ago, and I haven't been relying on my intuition for a while now. However, it still sometimes tells me the future role, but I don't really care.

Gil, what makes you think you're going to die? Are you a Seer? Do you think the Mafia is predictable? Lol, you have a huge ego.
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#608
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Arandor
Well, the Witch is coming to you. It's better to try to save an innocent person than to poison a supposed Mafia member. If you poison one, another will come along.
Witch, if the Elephant isn't executed, heal her. She's more important. If she is executed, then either poison someone at your discretion, or protect me.
The golem has 75% defense. Even the Assassin can't break through it.
But the Mistress can break through 100%. That is, she can simply go after me. If the Golem defends me, she'll kill him; if no one defends me, she'll kill me. What a bad plan, huh?



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#609
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Anyway, the Mafia will kill someone. And your role isn't the most useful one anyway).

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Neira Drake
What's better: a wasted day spent investigating or a wasted day based on some dumb probability theory?
Is Elephant guaranteeing peace? Prove it! But you can't prove it. Or did you guys share roles in ICQ? If so, then modkill to you, the rest is intuition and probability, which shouldn't be paid attention to until there's 100% certainty.

Gil, if Elephant isn't Mafia, the Mafia definitely knows her role, and believe me, they'll eliminate her because they don't need an advisor.

That was a long time ago, like ten games ago, and I don't rely on my intuition anymore. Although, she still sometimes predicts future roles, but I don't really care.

Gil, what makes you think you're going to die? Are you a fortune teller? Do you think the Mafia is predictable? Lol, you have a huge ego.
A wasted day that is based FOR ME on my confidence.
About "sharing in ICQ" - that's already an insult. I don't remember insulting you anywhere. "Shouldn't pay attention"? You'll remember this situation in the future.
Fortunately, the Mafia doesn't know her role, and that's the point. That's why I'm trying not to let them know the role for sure - I'm saying, it's stupid for them to try to guess when victory is near, and they can't afford to fail with their only kill. "Believe"? Believe that the Mafia are idiots? :)
Name the list. Doesn't matter if you care or not, whether you rely on it or not, I'm just asking you to name it. Or is it embarrassing to make such a list when intuition doesn't work because you already know all the Mafia? Don't know who to put on the list?
I think the Mafia was acting a bit irrationally, so yes, I expect predictability. Why not eliminate me when I'm unprotected and when I'm the only one who's stuck on the stupid argument "let's investigate, what if we waste a day"? And yes, I have a huge ego, level 85, full epic.

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Arandor
In any case, the Mafia will kill someone. And your role isn't the most useful.
Do you know my role? :) Or are you not considering that I'm just playing the role I need to play? :)



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#611
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I already asked you this question, and you answered. So, I won't allow it to happen again.

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Regarding the "shared it on ICQ" comment – that's an insult. I don't remember ever insulting you. "Don't pay attention to it"? You'll remember this situation in the future.
Accusing me of the most idiotic bluff is also an insult. I may not have the sharpest analytical mind, like some, but I'm not displaying utter stupidity either. I'm not afraid of being exposed as a non-human, because there are peaceful roles in the game with that status, and they are very useful. In general, if I offended you with this, I'm sorry, it wasn't intentional. It's just that you confidently exclaim in the spirit of "this is 100% true," and in that case, you can be accused of personal communication, because, in theory, you shouldn't even be writing such things until there is real evidence, such as the presence or absence of Night Vision (and even those aren't always accurate, but still).
Name the list. Whether it's purple or not, whether you rely on it or not, I'm just asking you to name it. Or is it difficult to make such a list when intuition doesn't work, because you already know all the mafia members? Don't you know who to put on the list?
I don't pull information out of thin air at will. Suspicion comes to me on its own, and if it does, it's unlikely to be wrong (but even then, I still remain silent because I'm afraid to take risks based on just intuition; the only exception is that I rely on it at the end of the games, but that's different). But writing down random people is out of the question. This is Mafia, not a guessing game.
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Arandor
I already asked you a question, and you answered. So, I won't allow it to happen again.
Heh, alright. :)



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Arandorchik's plans are getting crazier and crazier. He's clearly been smoking too much elven weed. You're exposed from the very first... first day! //_-

Let's break it down:
If Slonysh isn't Mafia, it's a loss. After the vote, we have 9/6. At night, the Mafia kills (and I have no doubt that this time, something or someone will interfere with them) + they use the Silver Moon Dance. What do we have? 8/6. Nothing changes in the vote. Then 7/6 and a vote steal. Don't tell me the Mafia has no idea about the roles and can't kill the Governor or steal his double vote. And that's it.
Oh, our boss will protect us, oh! As Gill said, it won't save them from the Sorceress, the Archer (with such a clue, I'm 100% sure it's Rimpa, of course), and the 50% Killer. The vote will go to Rimpa, just like with the Barbarian. It's even better for the Mafia! 7/6 until night, while preserving all abilities for the vote – that's an automatic win.

Do you realize that a TOWN CHECK here is a TERRIBLE, INSANE FAILURE, a plunge into the abyss of world creation?! Caps Lock makes it clearer, right? You need 90% certainty here! Gill has that certainty, but no one wants to listen to him. No one will ask, "Gill, who could be in league with Ney, who has already been exposed! Let's think about the situation!" Of course not, everyone is stubborn and sticking to their guns. Probably because Archie is Mafia, Lizzie is Mafia, Morny is Mafia... lol
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Maybe there's an error with the voice acting against the elephant, and it will lead to the city's "defeat," but we'll lose anyway if we go into a pointless nuclear arms race.
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Neira Drake
Accusing someone of the dumbest possible slip is already an insult. I may not shine with analytical mind like some, but I also don't display utter stupidity. I'm not afraid of being caught as a non-human, because there are peaceful roles with this status in the game, and they are very useful.
In general, if I offended you with this, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. It's just that you so confidently exclaim things like "100% info", and in such a case you can accuse someone of communicating personally, because in theory you shouldn't have written something like that until there is real evidence, like the presence/absence of ND (and even those are not always correct, but still).

I don't suck information out of thin air on a whim. Suspicion comes to me on its own, and if it comes, it's unlikely to be wrong (but even then, I still keep quiet because I'm afraid to take risks based on some intuition; the only time I rely on it is at the end of games, but that's different). But writing about just anyone, at random — no, spare me. This is Mafia, not a guessing game.
If you still haven't understood anything, it's not my fault. I'll explain everything after the game.
If I'm sure, that doesn't mean someone slipped me their role — it means I trust myself, what I see, what I read.
As expected — bam, and this time there's absolutely no suspicion whatsoever. But in games 29 and 30, on the very first days (this refers to the phrase about the end of games), you said "I feel that Gil is mafia". In all our games together on HeroesWorld, that was the case, except for game 28, where you were mafia. Game 26 — yes, game 27 — yes, games 29 and 30 — yes.
If this is Mafia, not a guessing game, why are you checking Slonik? Where is your 100% info, the evidence by which you execute her? Huh? These are just probabilities, which are not worth relying on.



Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
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#617
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Hossi, there's a 33% chance that Rimp is innocent. A thief comes along, and he becomes 100% Mafia. And why the hell would Rimp go out to kill at night when he's been poisoned? He'll just steal a voice and do nothing. We still need to find out about the killer.

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Neira Drake
Maybe the voice vote against the elephant will result in the city's "defeat," but we'll lose anyway if we go into a stupid arms race.
So, we'll just follow the crowd and execute the Elephant instead of trying to do something? Well, yes, of course, it's safer that way, and then we can say, "They started it, and we just joined in; we're not to blame ^_^." And Gil has a big ego, yes. Gil is just trying to save the city from this unrestrained, stupid action.
And why the hell would Rimp go out to kill at night when he's been poisoned? He'll steal the voice and won't do anything else.
Do you understand that Rimp isn't a guaranteed Archer with that kind of evidence? Oh, well, you're sure and don't listen to anyone. :/



Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
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As expected – bam, and this time there were absolutely no suspicions. And in rounds 29 and 30, on the very first days (I'm referring to the phrase about the end of the games), I said, "I have a feeling that Gil is Mafia." In all our joint games on Hv, this happened, except for round 28, where you were Mafia. Round 26 – it happened, round 27 – it happened, rounds 29 and 30 – it happened.
Yeah, because you were just giving yourself away. Notice that this time, I'm not claiming that you're Mafia; on the contrary, I'm still convinced that you're just a misguided player who thinks I'm a complete idiot. You should have reread the old games, when I had a strong desire to play Mafia and try to win.

Um... absolute verification ≠ guessing. I'm not saying: "SLONISH IS MAFIA, 100% INFO, LOL!!!!111" – I'm just suggesting: "the information is better than nothing."

If you want, sit in the shops and just wait for things to happen; if you don't want to, look for the Mafia and use your head to think about what's good and what's bad. Don't listen to Hosa, Gil, Arandor, etc. You need to use your own mind and draw your own conclusions, instead of relying on the leader to do everything for you. First, it's not a fact that they're not Mafia (okay, I believe Gil and Arandor this time, but in general, no), and second, they can also fail; after all, we're all human.
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