Heroes 6 - Discussion — General

ОMEGA

7/6/2011 11:56 AM UTC

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The beta test is closed, but if you pre-ordered the game, you will be granted access to the beta. That's the general idea.

"Let's fly to the most beautiful sky. No matter how many times your wings break, keep trying."©Crono Crusade

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Dyrman

7/6/2011 5:42 PM UTC

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Lux in tenebris

Hello, friends.
Is Might & Magic: Heroes VI (2011/ENG/Beta) a paid game?
I thought betas are always free?

It has been available to the public for a long time without any keys ;)
Keys are only given to those who submitted an application to test the game and those who pre-ordered it.

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Ment

7/6/2011 6:02 PM UTC

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2 codenameray: Well, now we have our own detailed review :) The Hugo forum is buzzing, and most of its users share similar opinions.

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RiMpel2

7/6/2011 6:11 PM UTC

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It seems to me that they want to make this part more suitable for multiplayer games (and therefore for tournaments, leagues, and so on), hence these simplifications, in order to shorten the game time.

Ment

7/6/2011 6:20 PM UTC

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Yes, that seems to be the case. They made the game simpler because, theoretically, it requires less time from the players. In practice, however, the amount of pointless time spent has only increased due to the abundance of healing spells and other things. But the main point is that it's easier to manage the balance this way, and they apparently don't want to put in too much effort. But if I wanted a game with simplifications but perfect balance, I would play chess. I think many would agree with me.

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NikBond

7/6/2011 6:31 PM UTC

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The beta is closed, but if you pre-ordered the game, you will be granted access to the beta. That's the idea, anyway.

But in reality, there's a cracked beta available.

А что я здесь делаю то?

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Dyrman

7/6/2011 6:33 PM UTC

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Ment

Yes, that seems to be the case. They made the game simpler because, theoretically, it requires less time from the players. In practice, however, the amount of pointless time wasted has only increased due to the abundance of healing spells and other things. But the main thing is that it's easier to manage the balance this way, and they apparently don't want to overwork themselves. But if I wanted a game with simplifications but perfect balance, I would play chess. I think many would agree with me.

Simplification is an obvious drawback in this case.
The game becomes somewhat monotonous, which is further enhanced by the monotonous graphics, sometimes blending items and units, and the excessive amount of small details, making the detailing of the units completely unnecessary.
It would have been better to have less balance than this.
Overall, it didn't impress me, and even disappointed me. Skills, the unclear connection of magic to schools. What is this division? Giving Battle Fury to Fire, for example? Something feels off((

P.S. Perfect balance doesn't exist :) Someone always goes first)

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NikBond

But in reality, there is a hacked beta.

This is an old pre-beta. The new one is public, and doesn't need to be hacked ;) And in general, is such a discussion supported? After all, it's still a beta, and it's not for sale... If not, then it's not worth continuing)

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NumpuT

7/6/2011 6:56 PM UTC

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Which spell allows all vampires to retaliate?

NikBond

7/6/2011 7:21 PM UTC

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The topic should be updated.
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/eugene_xaar/post174516451/

А что я здесь делаю то?

NikBond

7/6/2011 7:24 PM UTC

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What spell allows all vampires to retaliate?

Phone. Unfortunately, it hasn't been implemented in the beta version yet :-(

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By the way, what's the video about the 25th anniversary?
It was mentioned in a quote on Google.

P.S.S. Subtle trolling at the end of the 25th-anniversary video. A modern goblin first smears, but then buries the "old-school" goblin in the ground. Clearly hinting.

А что я здесь делаю то?

Ment

7/6/2011 7:30 PM UTC

NikBond, вот http://videos.uk.ubi.com/index.php?video=12estu40

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Ment

7/6/2011 7:38 PM UTC

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I'm not sure. Xaar isn't an official source; his knowledge about bosses comes from using the map editor. In some cases, he even relies on rumors (Shadow_Elemental, although listed under "bosses," has the appearance of a regular neutral creature, and its model is exactly the same as the neutral shadow_elemental. It's likely that the developers initially planned for this to be a boss, but then turned it into a regular elemental, leaving the resource where it was. There's a lot of this kind of "junk" in the fifth game). So, until we get information from the developers or uncover the campaign storylines, I don't see the point in posting this.
P.S. Kosh, I think these two messages should be moved.

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NumpuT

7/6/2011 7:40 PM UTC

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NikBond

Phone. Unfortunately, it hasn't been included in the beta version yet :-(

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By the way, what's that video about the 25th anniversary?
It was mentioned in a quote on Google.

Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I saw a computer throw a vampire into a Castle with Elementals, and the vampire responded to everyone.

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codenameray

7/6/2011 9:19 PM UTC

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NumpuT

Which spell allows all vampires to retaliate?

In the Warfare tab, there is a skill called Counterstrike, which, at its highest level (3), allows the selected unit (not just vampires) to always retaliate against attacks.

Lux in tenebris

7/7/2011 6:13 AM UTC

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Friends, those who played the beta, please tell me two things: 1) How is the (scaling) of skeletons? Is it the same as in Heroes of Might and Magic V? 2) Is there a map editor in the beta?

Евангелие от Иоанна, 1.5: Lux in tenebris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt. Свет во тьме светит, и тьма не объяла его.