Posts from The defenders at the fortress... what should we do with them?

I was playing with Dwarves, and in the center, we merged our troops. I brought in new units in a chain and started taking the castle, and then this happened. (What kind of developer came up with making them a separate faction? Thanks to this game-breaking element that prolongs the inevitable.)

I'll upload replays and screenshots soon.

P.S. Moments like these completely kill the desire to play (I haven't cursed this much in a long time).

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What the heck, why does their number depend on the month...? Okay, I get it, it depends on the level of the city, but what does the month have to do with it?

LOL, that's how he gets angry when playing against me)))) although maybe I'll end up in a similar situation, and actually, can someone share their experience with successfully besieging the Fortress?

Starhan, I can’t imagine how much you would swear if you were playing a version older than 3.0, because there were exactly twice as many dwarves. In general, dwarves become very strong in the late game, as they manage to upgrade everything they need, get 5th-level runes, and don’t spare resources. Their troops are quite strong and numerous (especially bears). As for sieging a city... I think it’s not worth even trying without powerful magic and/or skilled siege engines. You can bombard the defenders with chaos spells, cast enthrall or berserk, or even blind them in the end. You can also push them back using the Hive spell based on their attack bonus, block their passage with a wall of swords, or even strike them down with divine retribution, although that’s not the best option.

basically, I end up trying to take a Castle with a 1 growth rate when I have a 1.5 growth rate, and with these defenders, I have no chance.

And they would have been defeated long ago if it weren't for their high defense, and if I'm not mistaken, they are immune to defense reduction.

Thus, my super-upgraded ballista behind Vittorio only takes out 36 of these defenders.

There's also another downside: we're playing against the clock (and again, "huge thanks" to whoever came up with the idea of including battles, especially battles between players, in the overall limited time), so after the battle, leaving the hero with only the defenders, he goes to the tavern, and I can't take the empty Castle with a secondary hero because the turn has passed.

I understand that they wanted to protect against the simple tactic of entering a battle and wasting time, but there's such a wonderful thing as a dynamic battle; 20 seconds is enough to think about actions (although I would increase it to 40, because due to my lack of experience, I have to learn about magic and creature properties right during the battle).

I hope that in 3.1 they will remove the dependence of the defenders on the month; otherwise, the possibility of the opponent winning at approximately the same level of play is excluded. :(

p/s Since I was counting on winning in the open field, I developed my hero towards light magic and the ballista.

p/p/s I hate dwarves, their runes, and all their other stuff; in every battle, the dwarf's troops either double-attack or reach my troops on the first try, or they do all sorts of other nonsense...

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I hope that in 3.1 they will remove the dependence of the defenders on the month; otherwise, the possibility of the opponent winning at approximately the same level of play is excluded.

or did the developers think that the dwarf would sit without venturing out for 12 months, and therefore they needed to provide him with self-developing defense?

I also don't like dwarves because of their runes... just lost to a dwarf! Imagine the situation... five of my units are surrounding the Jarl, the dwarf casts some kind of rune... I don't remember the name, but basically it hits everyone around in a chain and a couple of times with luck... I was shocked! :(

in the end, I'm trying to take a town with a 1x growth rate, while I have a 1.5x growth rate, and with these defenders, I have no chance.

and they would have been defeated long ago if it weren't for their large shield, and if I'm not mistaken, they are immune to defense reduction.

as a result, my super-upgraded ballista, used by Vittorio, only eliminates 36 of these defenders.

there's also another downside: we're playing against the clock (and again, "huge thanks" to whoever came up with the idea of including battles, especially battles between players, in the overall limited time), so after the battle, leaving the hero with only the defenders, he goes to the tavern, and I can't take the empty castle with a secondary hero because the turn has passed.

I understand that they wanted to protect against the simple tactic of entering a battle and wasting time, but there's such a wonderful thing as a dynamic battle; 20 seconds is enough to think about actions (although I would increase it to 40, because due to my lack of experience, I have to learn about magic and creature properties right during the battle).

I hope that in 3.1 they will remove the dependence of the defenders on the month; otherwise, the possibility of the opponent winning is excluded when the players are at approximately the same level: (

p/s since I was counting on winning in the open field, I developed my hero towards light magic and the ballista.

p/p/s I hate dwarves, their runes, and all that stuff; in every battle, the dwarves' troops either double-attack or reach my troops on the first try, or they do all sorts of other nonsense...

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Anything can happen; you just need to play correctly, but sometimes development doesn't go as planned. Yesterday, it didn't work out for me in two consecutive games! You can defeat the dwarves, especially with Vittorio; if anyone disagrees, I can prove it

:) yeah, about getting the right skill, it didn't work out. I honestly expected to get a defense-granting skill around level 10 (so I could later take fire resistance, which would also help me a lot), but I kept getting Righteous Fury and Blessing.

So I had to agree, like in that joke: "After 250,000,456 attempts, the server agreed that its password was Mao Zedong."

It's a shame...

P.S. I plan my development path even before the battle, studying the skill tree and documentation. But sometimes, you need a specific skill, like magic from the Sanctuary, and it only becomes available at level 12 and beyond.

At that point, all your development goes down the drain.

That’s exactly why I love playing as Dwarves!

I'll upload the replays and screenshots soon.

We'll see. Maybe we can find a solution to the problem.

Please :) They are listed in the order of encounters.

Yeah, that's pretty tough... I usually play against Dwarves , but I still try to take my favorite Warlocks... With a good hero and enhanced Earth Shock, you can take out about 200 or more at once (Erin with Witch support adds another 50 or so; plus, of course, a ballista for 3 shots), but it's tough for the rest, and dragons keep coming... although, by the way, plague with slow seems to work well against them, especially the defenders...

P.S. ... Well, I don't know... I'm also following the advice...

remaining replays

1. unexpected attack from the darkness (if it weren't for that, I don't know if I would have been able to take the castle later)

2. 3 castle sieges (I didn't play very well with the demons, but that's because I didn't really know the abilities of the new units)

let's watch, be surprised, and write to the developers so that they don't do such things again :)

Yes, the Dwarven Castle is a truly impregnable fortress! Although, I lost quite quickly to an Elven marksman with a magical ballista.

My tactic is as follows: attack the town with two leveled-up heroes (meaning armies, and one also with magic). The first hero (with good magic) attacks and destroys the gnome army (except for reinforcements), holding back the guards with walls. Then, the second army finishes off the guards along with the enemy's small army. Victory.

I have fought both for and against the Dwarves. A 25th-level Dwarf with runes can easily defeat an opponent with three times the army size at the same level (if you know how to use them correctly). This makes them very strong, plus their defenders (500 and more). And they are the strongest race, but they can be defeated. 1. You need a strong hero (stronger than the one in the city) and a strong army (much larger than the enemy's). 2. It is best to defeat their main hero in the field and then go to the city where they are located: a 2nd-level hero with a weekly reinforcement + defense. First, let the archers destroy the other units (they are not very effective against defenders). It's good if they open the gates (almost always). Then, let the strongest melee units surround them and attack one by one. I advise you to have good Chaos magic or slowing spells. Gradually, you will kill them. When I have a 20+ level hero and 10+ dragons, etc., and they have a 2nd-level hero and a weekly reinforcement, I easily capture the city. 3. If there is a powerful hero with a powerful army, try to increase your level, strengthen your army, or use some tricks in battle.

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I have fought both for and against the Dwarves. A 25th-level Dwarf with runes can easily defeat an opponent with three times the army size at the same level (if you know how to use them correctly). This makes them very strong, plus their defenders (500 and more). And they are the strongest race, but they can be defeated. 1. You need a strong hero (stronger than the one in the city) and a strong army (much larger than the enemy's). 2. It is best to defeat their main hero in the field and then go to the city where they are located: a 2nd-level hero with a weekly reinforcement + defense. First, let the archers destroy the other units (they are not very effective against defenders). It's good if they open the gates (almost always). Then, let the strongest melee units surround them and attack one by one. I advise you to have good Chaos magic or slowing spells. Gradually, you will kill them. When I have a 20+ level hero and 10+ dragons, etc., and they have a 2nd-level hero and a weekly reinforcement, I easily capture the city. 3. If there is a powerful hero with a powerful army, try to increase your level, strengthen your army, or use some tricks in battle