Which is stronger – a titan or a black dragon? — General

dnaop-wr

4/6/2011 7:07 PM UTC

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I once did something similar, but I took two heroes, reset their morale and luck, and took twice the usual number of castle units, i.e., 4 monsters each, and had each hero take turns, with one monster going first in half the battles and the other in the second half. The battles were evenly matched, and the one who attacked first usually won, with a small amount of health remaining.

Архонт

5/27/2011 5:37 AM UTC

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voted for the Titan because he looks cooler; I've always liked him. And his armor is shiny, probably made from dragon scales. But in general, the third game is great because you can't just rely on math to win. For example, Phoenixes are the weakest, but their castle is the coolest. The Necropolis is kind of mediocre, but their mid-game units are the strongest. Plus, there are heroes, random spells in guilds, and so on. In short, it's a wonderful game, a masterpiece, an immortal creation.

кому нужен героин когда есть герои?

Zell Dingls

5/29/2011 1:11 PM UTC

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I think that the Dungeon faction is stronger, and if you consider the appearance, then the Dungeon units look nicer!

Играю только в Heroes 3!!!

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Архонт

6/1/2011 6:23 PM UTC

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Zell Dingls

I think that the Dungeon faction is stronger, and if you consider the appearance, then the Dungeon faction looks better!!!

You are a heretic!!! Titans are the best!! To the stake with you!! :smile16:
In hell, the Titans will roast you with their lightning (oops, it looks like a microwave...)

кому нужен героин когда есть герои?

Marmot

6/2/2011 9:08 AM UTC

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You're arguing for no reason – I know who's stronger: a titan riding a black dragon! :D This is a new unit; it will be in WoG 3.59. ;) It flies and shoots at the same time, and it's completely immune to magic! :smile54:

Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)

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Пашкент

6/12/2011 8:04 AM UTC

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Marmot

You're arguing for no reason – I know who is stronger: a titan riding a black dragon! :D This is a new unit; it will be in WoG 3.59. ;) It flies and shoots at the same time, and it has complete immunity to magic! :smile54:

I've always dreamed of something like that.

m1racle

3/8/2012 8:49 AM UTC

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A black dragon in a 1v1 fight might not be stronger than a titan; they could be evenly matched. However, in battle, the black dragon has an advantage in speed and immunity to magic. So, if there's a relatively even fight involving magic, black dragons will crush an army that includes titans (as the only level 7 unit in that battle), just as black dragons do in 90% of all cases. What's the point of arguing about this? Comparing 1v1 units that are roughly equal in strength is a pointless waste of time. In general, heroes are heroes because by the endgame, there will be a clear advantage on the side of one of the opponents, and even black dragons won't be able to change the outcome. Of course, this isn't always the case, but it's true most of the time.

saef

9/9/2012 7:25 PM UTC

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actually, if you looked at the information about the Titan, it says there that it's an enemy of the black dragons, meaning the Titan deals 50% more damage, regardless of whose turn it is.

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Lider1

9/9/2012 7:51 PM UTC

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saef

actually, if you looked at the info about the Titan, it says there that it's an enemy of the black dragons, meaning the Titan deals 50% more damage, regardless of whose turn it is.

Seriously? Did you even read the whole thread, or did you just blurt that out at the end?

Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того

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Niemand

9/9/2012 8:05 PM UTC

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saef

actually, if you looked at the info about the Titan, it says there that it's an enemy of the black dragons, meaning the Titan deals 50% more damage. Regardless of whose turn it is first.

"Hatred" is mutual between them.

Zatayl_NT

9/14/2012 5:36 PM UTC

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Titans, black dragons, Behemoth will come and kill everyone...

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And I had Titan win 20 out of 20 games against the black dragon, and if you look at it that way, Titan only loses to Arch, Arch only loses to Behemoth, and Behemoth only loses to Titan - we tried it 100 times with friends... and not just on level 7, you can also compete to see who wins, a dwarf or a zombie, a sorceress or a golem...

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hunter98

9/14/2012 6:17 PM UTC

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Zatayl_NT

who will win, the sorceress or the golem...

If it's a one-on-one battle, no unit from level 1-3 can defeat a golem due to its regeneration... the exception is if Grand Elves manage to finish it off with a direct attack using morale, but even then it's not certain, as the damage might not be enough... and in most cases, they won't even finish it off.

"Никто не уходит из героев вечно", - убедился на личном опыте, гоняю в сингле до сих пор :D

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Keen

9/14/2012 11:09 PM UTC

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Zatayl_NT

If you look at it that way, then the Titan only loses to Archdevil, Archdevil only loses to Behemoth, and Behemoth only loses to Titan - we tried it with friends 100 times...

You probably didn't try it correctly - Archdevil defeats Titan.

dnaop-wr

9/15/2012 7:14 AM UTC

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A 1-on-1 battle heavily relies on randomness (damage spread); a more objective approach is a group (with a multiple increase) against a group. And it wouldn't hurt to reset the hero's skills (so they don't affect the monsters).
An Archdevil really does take down a Titan (no chance). And a Behemoth has a better chance of defeating a Titan than the other way around.

Техника в руках индейца мертва.
Справочник по НоММ-4 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-heroes-iv.html