Posts from Mafia 29. Witch Hunt

The Marshal looked like it, the Magister looked like it, the Inquisitor looked like it, the Blacksmith looked like it, similar to Arandor or Amka.
Both Neutral Dark Occultists are visible, and they have been poisoned, which simply couldn't have happened under normal circumstances; a Thief applied it, and he left a note saying he would, there's no point in forging it because it's almost impossible to predict the Thief's actions.
It's clear and absolutely specific.
That's it, my role in the daytime debate is done, explanations have been given, I've had enough of other people's evasions and verbal diarrhea; someone else will tell the rest of your group, someone who has sorted out the situation.

And there's no need to hypocritically mention Neyra in every post, "who was betrayed by fools and mafias." I remember you were among those who happily voted for it.

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Well, whatever, I'll count.

Execute Wishmaster - 4 votes (Gil4, Leang, Morning, Dgak)
Execute Gura - 2 votes (Wishmaster, Aves)
7 votes are needed for execution.

Too many emotions, and all that ranting – thanks. Okay, let’s vote for Visha. Maybe he really is the Mafia, and that would be great.

And there's no need to hypocritically mention Neyra in every post, saying that "fools and mafia members killed her." I remember you were among those who happily voted for it.

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As sad as it is, yes. Now I just don't want to be among those who "happily" voted. The probability that he's a mafia member is high. But the fact that he imposed this on us, so to speak, and also expressed the idea that he would kill peaceful players if they don't resurrect the executioner, worries me. If you want to execute Vish, fine. I will be very happy if he turns out to be a mafia member. But if not, well, it's not the first time I've made a mistake.... I have enough time until the end of the day to cast my vote against him. I want to read other opinions first.

I need to think about it, but it makes sense. Vishmaster is the most reliable target for now.

And a little about Gil. He can't be a Hunter because the Hunter acted on the second night (based on general arguments). He can't be a Knight (can't be bribed), he can't be a Count (can't be bribed), he can't be the Executioner (that's Slonysh), he can't be a Bishop (can't be bribed), and he can't be a Templar either... The Thief acted in the same way on the second night. So, what does that mean? Can Gil only be a Blacksmith? Haha, what are the chances... Even smaller than Neyra's chances back then. Moreover, let's say he is a Blacksmith, but how could he threaten to take revenge on all the Templars? As a Blacksmith? Who can only block? It doesn't make sense. The conclusions are up to you; I'm just saying: Cancel Gur's execution. Execute Gil.

Vishmaster's neck is in a noose, and his feet barely touch the ground. Considering that the argument against him has been made repeatedly, you still almost vote for someone else at the end of the day, someone who will not be punished anyway, and as a result, it could be a non-negotiable vote.

I think the Hunter, as well as the Inquisitor, and the rest of the city should take note of the behavior of these individuals.

I provided a very logical and clear explanation of why Gill is Mafia. Your opinion is already clear; it's all emotions, or a lack of specifics. I will break it all down later, but I still advise true Town players to take a closer look and read my previous post.

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I'm giving an even more substantiated answer: Gill cannot be Town because: 1. The Grand Inquisitor cannot be bribed. 2. The Bishop cannot be bribed. 3. The Executioner is Sloanish. 4. The Count cannot be bribed. 5. The Knight cannot be bribed. 6. The Witch Hunter burned Arandor, meaning he acted on the second night. Why specifically the Witch Hunter burned Arandor? Because the Witch Hunter leaves no clues and only kills players with the "Cursed" status. Remember, in the first night, Arandor was being watched, and this surveillance is the Witch Hunter's first night action, plus witches are burned at the stake. Also, remember the order in which the actions are described in the newspaper. Therefore, this is definitely not Gill. 7. The Blacksmith? Maybe, but there's one thing: in the second newspaper, Gill was returning from somewhere, but the Blacksmith didn't act on the second night and didn't block anyone. Returning from where? Nowhere. The role is ruled out. 8. The Moneylender? No. He bribed Gill. 9. The Thief? Excluded. The Thief poisoned Amko, meaning he stole the poison and poisoned him on the second night. At the same time, the second newspaper mentioned both Gill and the Thief, meaning they are not the same person; otherwise, Gill would have been mentioned in the first newspaper as well. Conclusion: Gill cannot be Town at all; there's no chance. What more evidence do you need? Reread my post, compare everything yourself. I think there's nothing to criticize. Want to deny it? Okay, but then without emotions, everything should be clear and specific. I'm waiting. Town players, draw your own conclusions.

Is a logical and clear explanation that “because he was bribed, he couldn’t participate”? Did you even read the rules?

Where exactly do I have this specific phrase?) Since you deny it, deny what I'm writing, not your own phrases...
And why are only a few people discussing this? The rest of you should join in too.

6. The Witch Hunter burned Arandor, meaning he acted on the second night.
The Blacksmith didn't act on the second night and didn't block anyone. Where will they return from? Nowhere. The role is eliminated.
9. The Thief? Ruled out, the Thief poisoned Amko.

Implying that a bribed player cannot move at night.
Reread the rules, dismiss half of the points as irrelevant, and finally vote for the Wishmaster. Stop acting and trying to defend yourself.

Based on the order.) I have made my decision, and I believe it is the right one. Now it's up to others to decide which version they consider more well-thought-out and plausible. It seems absurd to you (which is logical if you are also Mafia), but there is also something called the opinion of the others. Our argument no longer makes sense.
And by the way, let's avoid personal attacks.

Alright, folks, I'm off to sleep, and you guys figure things out here without me...
I agree with the execution of Vish, they made a mistake with Neira, but this time, there's no doubt!
Execute Vishmaster

I apologize, I seem to have lost track of the game.
Could you please tell me why and on what grounds Vishmaster is being executed?

Sincerely,
Gur

Please excuse me, I've lost track of the game.
Could you tell me what Vishmaster is being executed for and on what grounds?

Sincerely,
Gur

Gur, it's all written here... They believe that a thief stole poison from Vish and he poisoned Amko with it.
And by the way, regarding the 15th person from the bottom, is that based on the list for the first night, or the overall list? It might be a good setup, because according to that list, the 15th person from the bottom is Dgak, but I can't say for sure. There were a lot of notes, so it's unclear whether it's a setup or not.
Before choosing a candidate for execution, please read the accusations against: Gur, Vish, and Gil.