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PERPETUAL THEMATIC OFFLINE TOURNAMENTS "ROADS OF HEROES".

1. This type of tournament is essentially a competition for the best completion of a specific task.
2. Tasks may be as follows:
· For speed: destroy all enemies, capture all castles, defeat a certain hero, capture a certain town, complete a quest, etc.
· For hero development: based on experience or primary stats, as well as a combination of experience and stats.
· For army collection – without arenas, calculated in hit points.
· For hero development + army collection.
· For collecting specific monsters.
· If there are any other task options – those are also possible.
3. The game is played from a single starting save.
4. Saves are posted on the website at the beginning of the calendar year, then monthly, and at the end of the year, the final table is moved to the tournament archive.
5. Players' final saves are included in a single summary table.
6. Results are tallied monthly.
7. The rating is calculated as for a round-robin tournament among participants who played during that month.
8. The first three players in each of the thematic tournaments receive ownable awards.
9. Awards pass to players who manage to improve the result.
10. A save can be completed 3 times, but only the best result for each player is considered in the summary table.
11. At the end of the calendar year, players who managed to keep their prize positions receive ownable awards as permanent possessions!

To start, three tasks:

TASK №1. FOR SPEED WALKTHROUGH.

The goal of the game is to kill all enemies and take all castles.
Map "Forward, Vikings!", which was in the clan tournament. But now a bug has been fixed and the grail will no longer give gold to the player. Otherwise, everything remains the same.
Starting save generated on TE 1.03p, but fully adapted for SoD 3.2. TE innovations are disabled.
Can be played on TE 1.03p, SoD 3.2.

TASK №2. FOR HERO DEVELOPMENT.

The goal of the game is to maximize hero development by day 5 of the second week of the second month. Hero stats and hero experience are taken into account. The final score will be based on the formula: 5000 for each primary hero stat (including equipped artifacts) + the actual experience gained by the hero.
The map "The Diagonal" is already familiar to participants of the third round of the last "Heroes Arena" tournament, but there are now small changes. I will not provide descriptions; check them in the editor yourself!
Starting save generated on TE 1.03p. It is preferable to play on this version, but SoD 3.2 is also possible (In this case, if the hero has secondary skills that increase primary stats on TE, they will be taken into account when calculating the final result!).

TASK №3. FOR COLLECTING THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MONSTERS.

The goal of the game is to collect the maximum number of skeletons for those playing on SoD 3.2, or the maximum number of demons for those playing on TE 1.03p. Army comparison will be based on the number of hit points (creatures' life points). Artifacts that increase health will not be taken into account. Additionally, you cannot use +5 weeks of any creatures, monster months, or build a skeleton transformer (all skeletons only through the Necromancer skill!)!!!
Map "King of Random", played in the second round of the arena tournament.
Starting save is the same! Game term - 58 days (day 2 of the first week of the third month).

In all saves, the victory condition is to collect resources. This condition is only for checking the honesty of the save! In the tournament, you must complete the tasks described above!!!

First tallying of results - December 10.

Send final saves to the email natasha@heroes.ru.

Tournament rules and FAQ:
/topic/102/

During my month-long absence, nprf will answer all tournament questions starting from Monday.
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nprf;43930
With expert scouting, you can simply leave the map without attacking anyone!!!

Yes, yes, yes – I remember that!
Thank you!

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Как много в жизни есть путей
Для добродетелей и мира.


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Hey everyone! What quests have you chosen? I started with the first one. I'll save the others for later. What about the rest of you? Let's all play them in order! Otherwise, it won't be interesting if there are a dozen saves for different quests. It's better to compete all at once on one quest, and then on another.
I understand, Natasha, that you left more so that we wouldn't get bored without you, but still!
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I started with the Vikings, but I don't know if I'll finish....:( I have neither the time nor the opportunity to play, unfortunately (problems with my eyes - I can't strain them). Of course, I'll try to play, and hopefully gradually on all of them, BUT...
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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I don't know either...:(
I've already played these maps, and I don't really feel like playing them again...

I'll try!

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Как много в жизни есть путей
Для добродетелей и мира.


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Hey, everyone! Which quests have you chosen? I started with the first one. I'll save the others for later. What about the rest of you? Let's all play them in order! It won't be interesting if there are a dozen saves for different quests. It's better to compete all at once on one quest, and then on another.
I understand, Natasha, that you left more so we wouldn't get bored without you, but still!

PALADIN and I were planning to start by leveling up our heroes. But I don't quite agree about the interest. Let the beginners compete among themselves for now, and we'll join later.
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PALADIN and I were planning to start by leveling up our heroes. But I don't quite agree about the interest level. It's better if the newcomers compete among themselves for now, and we'll join later. Otherwise, it will be like in the League of Heroes, where, as one of my fellow countrymen said, "They fight very fiercely!". We had the same problem in HeroesWorld, where the arena tournaments for beginners weren't finished because no one wanted to learn, but everyone wanted to win. That's why we started playing in Best of the Best, where we don't participate.

Yes, you're probably right! If we immediately achieve the maximum result at the start of the tournament, it won't only discourage newcomers, but also good
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No one wants to learn, but everyone wants to win. That's why they went to play in Best of the Best, where we don't play.
Oh, but that's not true! And it's not at all because of that that EVERYONE went there... I might be saying something rude now, but dear nprf, you have too high an opinion of yourself! Not everyone and not always focuses on you and your game, your participation or non-participation in a particular tournament... Curb your pride and self-importance! ;)
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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We had the same problem in HeroesWorld arena Tournaments – newcomers didn’t finish the games! No one wants to learn, but everyone wants to win. That’s why they went to play in Best of the Best, where we don’t play.

Personally, when I came here, I understood that Natasha organizes good Tournaments, in which strong and experienced players participate.
This is precisely the reason why people don’t want to play with you and prefer less challenging Tournaments.
They are not even motivated by the fact that they will definitely not win here.
For many, the spirit of the Tournament and its competitiveness, followed by an emotional release, are just as important as winning.

They don’t want to because it’s not interesting to play with you. They are 100% sure that they won’t even be in the top 4, and 90% confident that your result will be at least 3 times better!
And you don’t really like sharing emotions, tactics, and strategies.
This is why the competitions are so dry...

After we completed the map in the second round, no one shared any secrets, tactics, or pros and cons... nprf later said that there was nothing interesting there and there was nothing to discuss!
For you – I UNDERSTAND that you have nothing to discuss, but for others, it was necessary.

Personally, for me, this was my first TOURNAMENT, and I would have been very happy and it would have been very useful if you had told me or explained what was right and what was wrong – conducted a debriefing. I didn’t even understand how far behind I was, so that my opponents would know what I should have aimed for!

By nature, I am a very strong and proud loner, and for me, overcoming difficulties is like a dose for a drug addict (especially if I do it myself, without outside help). But that doesn’t mean I don’t accept help from others – I just have that kind of character: I will gladly help people, but I am not used to asking for help.

I learn on my own, BUT I still participate in Natasha’s Tournaments only because this is the only place where I can become stronger and more experienced. Now there is also the League.

As sad as it is to say, your Tournaments turn out to be purely Closed, no matter how much you would like it to be otherwise...:(
It’s sad because I would like to see the opposite...

My opinion is as follows:
“Until a Unified rating system appears, participants will not have much incentive to play Better and Better; there will only be a desire to win, and to win where they can!
Also, our forum’s rating will remain at the same zero level until we establish order with a Uniform system! Because some people calculate ratings according to One system, others have come up with their own system, and a third group doesn’t calculate anything at all.
From the outside, it looks like a group of people living in the same room, but each hiding in their own corner, and each living by their own rules.
And you still want people to pay attention to us and respect us...”


Sincerely,
Prorock.

Как много в жизни есть путей
Для добродетелей и мира.


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Personally, when I came here, I understood that Natasha organizes great Tournaments in which strong and experienced players participate.
This is exactly why people don't want to play with you and prefer less challenging tournaments.
It's not even based on the fact that they DEFINITELY won't win anything here.
For many, besides victory, the spirit of the tournament and its competitiveness, followed by an emotional release, are of interest.

They don't want to because it's not interesting to play with you. They know 100% that they won't even make the top 4, and are 90% sure that your result will be, at the very least, 3 times better!
And you aren't particularly fond of sharing emotions, tactics, and strategies.
Hence the dryness of the competitions...

As for the map of the 2nd round, when we completed it, no one shared any secrets, tactics, or pros/cons... nprf said later that there was nothing interesting there and nothing to discuss!
For you — I UNDERSTAND that you have nothing to discuss, but for others, it was necessary.

Personally for me — this was my first TOURNAMENT, and it would have been very pleasant and useful if someone had told me what was right and what was wrong — conducted a "post-flight debrief." I didn't even understand how far behind I was, what my opponents had, or what I SHOULD have been striving for!?

By nature, I am a very strong and proud Loner, and overcoming difficulties is like a dose for an addict (especially if I do it myself, without outside help). But that doesn't mean I don't accept help from others — it's just my character: I will gladly help people, but I am not used to asking for help.

I learn on my own, BUT I still participate in Natasha's tournaments only because this is the only place where I can become stronger and more experienced. Now there is also the League.

As sad as it is to say, but your Tournaments are turning out to be strictly Closed, no matter how much you might not want that... :(
It's sad, because I would like to see the opposite...

My opinion is as follows:
"Until a Unified rating system appears, participants will have no real incentive to play Better and Better; there will only be a desire to win, and to win where they can!
Likewise, the rating of our forum will remain at the same zero level until we bring order via a Uniform system! Because some of us calculate ratings according to One system, others have invented their own system, and a third group doesn't calculate anything at all.
From the outside, it looks like a group of people living in one room, but each hiding in their own corner and living by their own rules.
And you still want people to notice us and respect us..."


Respectfully,
Prorock.

I agree about 90 percent. Let me explain regarding the debrief. In the second round, it basically didn't matter which direction to go or which AI to hit first. All the secrets of the Walkthrough were limited to small tactical tricks. And the result depended more on the choice of heroes and whether someone realized that you need to collect liches, demons, and skeletons on the map.
Now, the first and third rounds could be broken down step-by-step. As far as I know, Natasha did something, but because of her desire to leave HeroesWorld forever, she stopped posting any theoretical information here. Let's hope she returns, although I doubt it more and more.
The reasons for the unwillingness to share all secrets are also clear: why grow your competitors? We teach those who are ready to play on our team!

I've long been convinced that nobody here wants anything! And most of the problems lie precisely in the "power game" and the desire of some to manage someone or something. As long as it is possible on HeroesWorld for anyone who feels like it to organize tournaments — that is how we will live.

I've written many times about ratings. A unified system is needed!!!
But this has long been a question for the Admin, not a topic for forum discussion. A decisive ruling on the rating system and the appointment of tournament leads is required.

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Oh, that's just not true!!! That's not at all why EVERYONE went there... I might be blunt now — but, dear nprf, you have too high an opinion of yourself!!! Not everyone and not always looks to you and your play, your participation or non-participation in a certain tournament... Curb your pride and conceit!!! ;)

Agreed. nprf went a bit too far.
Although he pointed out the reasons for not participating in the Heroes League championships correctly. It was more about what was happening on the forum then!
As for who went where and where they will end up, we'll see. For now, I've downloaded the save and the map, which I didn't like at all. It's a matter of taste, but I wonder who will want to amass strength just to kill 4000 black dragons.
But one SHOULD look to nprf and his gameplay! It's strange that there is no incentive to beat him and thereby prove that he is wrong about something! It's time to settle disputes through the game, not on the forum!!!
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Your words keep coming back to me – the reason why you don't participate in tournaments, and how tired you are of all this...

It's sad to realize that this is actually true!

"The power of words is becoming increasingly important, while the game is taking a backseat...":

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Как много в жизни есть путей
Для добродетелей и мира.


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Oh, but that's not true!!! And it's not at all because of this that EVERYONE went there... I might be saying something rude now, but, dear nprf, you have too high an opinion of yourself!!! Not everyone and not always relies on you and your game, your participation or non-participation in a particular tournament... Curb your pride and self-importance!!! ;)

I apologize. I was a little wrong. I wrote about a problem that only someone who has seen it can understand!
And I was very angry about the "Best of the Best" tournament map. It would require me to send so many megabytes of daily saves to prove once again that I'm not lying. It will be a pity for the poor soul who will be the leader of the tournament!!!

And now, "let's get back to the point." I won't be here until approximately December. Pred will temporarily answer questions about the tournament.

Currently, 4 saves from the first task have been received. The results are quite decent, but the real competition is definitely ahead. I won't name whose saves they are, so the competition is more interesting.
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Now, let's get back to the main topic. I won't be around here until approximately December. Pred will temporarily answer questions regarding the tournament.

Currently, we have received 4 save files for the first task. The results are quite good, but the real competition is yet to come. I won't mention whose save files they are, as it makes the competition more interesting.

Good. Message received!

It's very good that you're not revealing who has played. The most important thing is to compete with oneself. The final placement isn't the most important thing; what matters is that the final save file is good for the participant personally!
But notifications about the receipt of save files will be sent to all participants, as always!
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The first set of results will be announced on December 10th, as I understand, but the main RESULTS will be revealed in a year. Did I understand correctly?

If so, I'll see how our participants perform and will start joining later – NOW IT'S YOUR TURN; I've already played my part on time. ;)

But this will give me an incentive to play these rounds a second time, and maybe even a third! :

So, GOOD LUCK!

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Как много в жизни есть путей
Для добродетелей и мира.


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The first summary is on December 10, as I understand it, but the main SUMMARY will take place in a year, did I get that right!?

If that's the case, then I'll see how our participants play and start joining later - NOW IT'S YOUR TURN, I've already played my part on time.;)

On the other hand, I'll have an incentive to go through these tours for a second, or maybe even a third time!:)

So GOOD LUCK!

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Summaries are on the 10th of every month, and as for when to summarize the final results... for now, the idea is in a year, so that the record table is truly such.
I'll also watch the results of others for now; I have absolutely no time to play right now, I'll likely not even finish the Championship.
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The first summary of results will be on December 10th, as I understand, but the main SUMMARY will be in a year, is that correct!?

If so, I'll see how our participants perform and start joining later - NOW IT'S YOUR TURN, I've already played my part on time.;)

But this will give me an incentive to play these rounds a second time, and maybe even a third!:)

So GOOD LUCK!

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Just remember that on the 10th, a new assignment will be posted, and possibly more than one!!! And so it will be every month!!! Although right now, there is indeed a more important tournament! But it may happen that there will be more interesting maps there, and you still won't want to play them. Especially if there are no results that you would like to improve!

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