Posts from Mafia 27. The problem of Bovblob residents

Many have wondered why we ultimately eliminated Slonysh on the second night. Of course, we made a mistake, but I'll explain why that decision was made. The key clue to identifying the puppet master was "olive pits." I still don't understand how they relate to Hostor, but Slonysh's signature contained an entire article about olive pit scrubs. Isn't that quite a coincidence?

I recognize the thought process of a fellow pirate, right? :smile40:

Regarding Hostor, it's probably quite simple – the novel about Captain Blood is called "The Odyssey of Captain Blood." I hope you don't need me to explain the connection between the word "odyssey" and olives?

To be honest, I didn't notice that Hostor had revealed Linga's identity during his spring hormonal surge, and we just went to kill him, choosing from 4 players who could be the target.

:D I would argue about who had the hormonal surge – after all, it wasn't me who missed the opportunity to expose a Mafia member:o

I considered Gamayun a Mafia member from day one, which is why I hid from her for 2/3/4 nights (and that's what saved me from Akro's kill). And no, I always look for Mafia members based on clues, because unreliable behavior is a red flag – Hermi also seemed like a Mafia member to me, but in the end... However, I wasn't listened to again, and she was only executed on the fourth day, when I figured out (or perhaps just guessed) the second clue (Downtown). It reminds me of the situation with Arandor's execution on the second day in game 26. And, by the way, if I hadn't hidden from Gamayun based on that clue, we would have very likely lost, despite Gur's kill. So, the clue played a significant role. Of course, there was a 50% chance of failure even without Hiding, but it's nice that with my Neutral Detective ability, I didn't fail more than once.
I initially thought the same about Scrub as I did about Slonysh. And I only figured out the clue with Odysseus regarding Hos after his death, after a little searching.
By the way, Hos, you shouldn't have said "nobody cares" yesterday (regarding your analysis). Personally, I would be very interested in reading your thoughts about the mistakes made by both sides.

Deciphering the clues.

and olive pits were falling from his hat

Hostor's signature -> Captain Blood -> Odyssey -> Odysseus -> Greece -> olives -> olive pits

A bear will eat the separated one, a wolf will eat the divided one.

Gamayun - a Turkic borrowing. Umai - a Turkic proverb.

-Silent..., - suddenly half of Slonysh spoke.

Lizardo's profile -> location -> Beneath The Waves -> a song by the Dutch band Ayreon -> William I of Orange, considered the founder of the independent Netherlands, was nicknamed "The Silent."

-I found Theodore Roosevelt's hat.

Regstir's avatar -> Winnie the Pooh -> plush bear (see history)

-No, one of them said something. something like: "Southern direction," or something like that, unfortunately, that's all I heard.

Southern direction -> Gamayun's profile -> location -> Downtown -> when they say "downtown," they mean the southern direction.

- What is that book?
- Capital.

Toria's profile -> What do you do? -> SPbGTI(TU) -> Saint Petersburg -> Saint Petersburg State Technological Institute -> Saint Petersburg -> Lenin -> communism -> Karl Marx -> "Capital"

Unfortunately, besides the inscription: "from Balkan with love" on the book, there was nothing else.

The Balkans -> Bulgaria -> Pavel Vezhinov -> the novel "White Lizard"

-I don't know, there's an anchor and stars on the cover, nothing else.

Naira's profile -> Location -> Land of Dreams -> Howard Lovecraft -> deposit -> Providence (Rhode Island, USA) -> state flag

By the way, why didn't the city understand my persistent hints not to hang Lisa? ))) I would seriously order them to frame me for my own murder.

Lizard's profile -> location -> Beneath The Waves -> a song by the Dutch band Ayreon -> William I of Orange, considered the founder of the independent Netherlands, was nicknamed "The Silent."

and someone else complained that people aren't looking for clues. It's pointless anyway.

Heh, so the three clues I solved weren't about the Barbarians after all. I had my doubts.
The first clue about Lisa was great; I was thinking along those lines, but I didn't quite finish it. :)
Theodore Roosevelt – it's debatable; looking at the avatar, everyone just thinks about the character and everything related to him. I didn't think to consider plush bears, I admit.
The clue about Toriy is fun, nothing to say. The connection is a bit forced, in my opinion. And there were better things in his profile that could have been used. Chayf, Mikhail-Boris Tenin, fakirs... Well, maybe the forced connection is just for me.
It's a shame about the story about Lisa... :( I was thinking along those lines, but I was searching in English... And I kept finding "Uletka and the White Lizard"...
I didn't even search for anything about Neyra; I had lost interest – for me, everything was clear: Ple-sen – Gramophone, Toriy – Tamer, so Hermi and Neyra – Drawing and Director, I just wasn't sure who was who.

Is it really that difficult?

Ar, no need. :D I thought about this group several times throughout the game. I just didn't connect it with its founder during the Netherlands stage. Thorium, it wasn't interesting at all. I understood, and I think not just me, after those posts that you were playing as a Mafia member, but to end the game like that – well, it's just zero interest. So, I at least thought a little about the Neutral Detective, made a small plan (yeah, in 2 minutes, I was late for a meeting...), picked the most optimal action, quickly wrote a note... I had fun dying as I intended. :D

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Nebo, it wasn't difficult, you did a good job. :) Good clues. Plus for you, you had a good time searching for clues. :)

fakirs...

Well, there was already proof about them, so what's the point of providing more evidence? It would be too easy.

I only failed to connect it to its founder during the Netherlands stage.

That's the problem. It's easy to reach the Netherlands, but figuring out what exactly to look for there...

Well, no, the clue should lead to something important, and what could be more important in countries than their founders? The founder is part of the list of important things. You just had to figure it out; you're the ones who failed.
Yes, Sky, I forgot that I already posted a link in the thread back then. It was just harder to find information about the avatar than usual, so I posted it for future reference.

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http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Нидерланды -> the very first image, if we don't count the map -> http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вильгельм_I_Оранский -> "William (Willem) I of Orange, nicknamed the Silent...".

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Thorium, Maf, he practically handed us the information on a silver platter. So all the more reason why you should have figured it out yourselves.

What I enjoyed most throughout the game was our GM's newspapers. I read them and just laughed out loud. The clues were also interesting (although I think they were too easy for me). Lizard, don't be paranoid; you didn't play with me when I was the Seer; I was just as bad then. By the way, in almost every game on FLG, several people start by saying, "Gamayun is the most suspicious." There's nothing you can do about it; that's just how I am. I really didn't like the replacements. I don't think you should be able to replace players who have dropped out. At most, only those killed on the first night. I want to apologize to Taco. He really wanted to play, and Reg and I didn't intend to kill him. We even discussed it and sent our joint Night Vision to the GM, but someone (I won't point fingers) woke up late in the evening, scratched their head, and sent their own Night Vision to the GM. Since this unpleasant person was higher rank than us, their Night Vision was accepted instead of ours. And then I spent a couple of days wondering who killed those wonderful people – Flandri and Taco – and why our target was still alive and well, and even writing their nasty, multi-page notes (again, I won't point fingers). Taco, I was very surprised when I found out that Reg and I killed you. Well, that's basically all I can write now, in a calm environment. Thank you to the GM; the setting and the visuals are top-notch. I'll also add my two cents to the situation with Arandor: we need to play a couple of classic psychological Mafia games without clues and with reveal phases, and then maybe the difference between a psychological Mafia and a Mafia with clues and notes in the newspaper will become clear. The rules are the rules; if there are no reveal phases, then it's a modkill. But that's just my IMHO.

psychological mafia games without evidence and with post-mortems

Such games, IMHO, are better played in real life.

Multi-page notes? You wanted to eliminate me on the very first night? :D Reg, how could you?! And my notes aren't malicious, they're just sometimes dangerous for the Mafia. I understand the desire to eliminate me later in the game, it would have been logical considering the overall situation, but on the first night... At least then I had a real chance to defend myself, which I did - and that was fair. Fair in the sense of "with honor."